two possible build that i am considering....thoughts?

procupine14 · May 23, 2008, 07:35 PM

Intel build:

DFI motherboard (DK X38-T2R LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard)

Q9300 (Q9300 Yorkfield 2.5GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80580Q9300)

Corsair RAM (XMS2 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX)

also with intel i really don't know a whole lot. I've been hardcore AMD for so long that I really don't know what is compaitble with what.

AMD build:

DFI motherboard (DK 790FX-M2RS AM2+/AM2 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard)

Phenom (9550 Agena 2.2GHz Socket AM2+ 95W Quad-Core Processor Model HD9550WCGHBOX)

Corsair RAM (XMS2 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX)

edit: some basic specs in quotes if you don't feel like clicking on the links

let me know if there are any combinations of processor motherboard and RAM
that are better in the same general price range.

I've been out of the front line of product for a few months now and really don't know where to start up again

everything is so shiny. In any case the AMD build is up there because I have always liked AMD's stuff but i hear that the Phenoms are basically fail.

THOUGHTS?

procupine14 · May 25, 2008, 07:24 AM

seeing that there are no replies here I am going to assume that posting up specs of a machine and asking others' opinions on it isn't really ok. Haven't been on here in awhile so never mind on that whole thing. In any case I'm going to go with an intel build for sure now unless there is something that i don't know about AMD that I should. Now, my only real question is about compatibility. What chipset is best suited for my choice of the Yorkfield lines of processor? I really am lost when it comes to the intel side of things. Just a point in the right direction would be helpful

PangingJr · May 25, 2008, 09:12 AM

i think DFI LP "DK" is a lower cost model of the UT/LT model boards,
however, since DFI provides on all DFI LP UT/LT and DK models that based on Intel P35-X48's a very good CMOS setting options for overclocking both CPU and RAM, so their boards are at the top choices of many overclockers as far as i know.

i also heard that DFI "DK" "T2RS" both P35 and X48 boards are pretty good overclocker for C2Q's processors,
but i cannot confirm that this is also include the Yorkfield that are available today.

when the new P45 based boards in retail stores, i would expected to see that there are quite a few of the boards that can perform better in terms of overclocking the Yorkfield's.

**temeteus82** · May 25, 2008, 09:37 AM

The intel rig looks nice to me.

So I say get the intel

btw. procupine14 light colors aren't visible on SereneHeaven site theme. So I removed all the custom colors and font's from your post

**Mousey** · May 25, 2008, 11:58 AM

Definately go Intel, Intel are dominating the market top bottom left and right atm with top performance components at a miniscule price.
Plus they overclock better, have a lower thermal output and use less power.

AMD have got some serious ground to gain, the Phenoms were a desperate last attempt at getting back into the market.
Now they need to win us back with some LEGENDARY performance graphics cards at a MINISCULE price

Al_Vampyre · May 25, 2008, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mousey

Now they need to win us back with some LEGENDARY performance graphics cards at a MINISCULE price

Now that's what I'm talking about!

**kris23** · May 25, 2008, 04:00 PM

go intel but id swap out the Q9300 for a Q6600 if you are gonna do some serious OCing...... the core is too new and doesnt OC too good, lower multiplier too....

also get rid of the POS COrsair CAS 5 RAM and get either the Crucial Ballistix 2x2gb sticks or COrsair CAS 4 2x2GB sticks....

everything else is good

procupine14 · May 26, 2008, 03:35 AM

alright sounds good to me

I think ill drop back to the Q6600 and use the same DFI board that I have.

In the past I have had good luck with crucial so that ay very well be the way im going. Now that I stop and think about it I have had so many troubles with the corsair RAM I have now I don't know why i decided on that

.

in any case that looks like what im going with after I get paid this coming week

YAY

thanks all

**kris23** · May 26, 2008, 06:13 AM

good luck

PangingJr · May 26, 2008, 06:27 AM

OCZ DDR2 PC2-9200 Flex II 4GB RAM kit.
ICs are from PSC, running DDR2-1200 at 2.08V

OCZ Flex II - Life at 1200MHz - AnandTech: OCZ Flex II - Life at 1200MHz

procupine14 · May 26, 2008, 05:13 PM

ok RAM has been changed out for the crucial Ballistix 2X4gb kit. Its also a little cheaper than the corsair so thats always a plus and I've changed out the york for a kents Q6600

so as soon as the RAM comes back in stock we will be in business

**kris23** · May 26, 2008, 05:23 PM

when you said 4x2GB i was like running back to newegg to see........

lol you mean 2x2GB?

and the normal Ballistix wont be in stock for a long time so id get the Tracer versions

procupine14 · May 27, 2008, 02:04 PM

yeah my bad my fingers and brain weren't cooperating that well at that moment.

I meant 4GB total 2X2

**kris23** · May 27, 2008, 02:55 PM

lol

H3X4D3C1M4L · May 29, 2008, 06:39 AM

I'd still consider the AMD machine. It won't be AS FAST as the C2D/Q but it will still be plenty fast. Its tooooo fashionable to bash AMD these days

. Granted Intel is producing the better processor but there's really nothing wrong with AMD's stuff. Its all rock solid and very well thought out. By no means are Phenom's a fail, except in the fact that they failed to take the top performance crown from Intel's flagship CPU.

Either way I commend the use of DFI motherboards in both cases. Great mobos.

procupine14 · May 29, 2008, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H3X4D3C1M4L

I'd still consider the AMD machine. It won't be AS FAST as the C2D/Q but it will still be plenty fast. Its tooooo fashionable to bash AMD these days

. Granted Intel is producing the better processor but there's really nothing wrong with AMD's stuff. Its all rock solid and very well thought out. By no means are Phenom's a fail, except in the fact that they failed to take the top performance crown from Intel's flagship CPU.

Either way I commend the use of DFI motherboards in both cases. Great mobos.

yeah that is my thought on the DFI boards

i've always had good luck with them. As far as the AMD system goes though its more expensive so that is another reason that i am currently going with Intel. The AMD system that I speced out on Newegg came out to around 500$ american (mobo proc ram) and the intel came out to a little over 400$ american. So seeing as i could use the extra cash im going to stick with Intel this go around

H3X4D3C1M4L · May 29, 2008, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by procupine14

yeah that is my thought on the DFI boards

i've always had good luck with them. As far as the AMD system goes though its more expensive so that is another reason that i am currently going with Intel. The AMD system that I speced out on Newegg came out to around 500$ american (mobo proc ram) and the intel came out to a little over 400$ american. So seeing as i could use the extra cash im going to stick with Intel this go around

Fair enough. It's just too trendy to bash AMD. There's nothing wrong with any of the Phenom processors what so ever except that they're not quite as fast as Intel's flagship procs.

procupine14 · May 29, 2008, 06:52 AM

yeah you make a good point there.

Anyone seen the AMD tricore chips?
Interesting to say the least if you are on a budget.

H3X4D3C1M4L · May 29, 2008, 07:03 AM

Odd birds those, but so far only rumors at this point. I've never seen one for sale locally.

procupine14 · May 29, 2008, 01:33 PM

prepare to see

AMD tri-core Phenom

found them the other day on newegg

people seem to like them quite a bit

May 23, 2008, 07:35 PM	#1
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	two possible build that i am considering....thoughts? Intel build: DFI motherboard (DK X38-T2R LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard) Q9300 (Q9300 Yorkfield 2.5GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80580Q9300) Corsair RAM (XMS2 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX) also with intel i really don't know a whole lot. I've been hardcore AMD for so long that I really don't know what is compaitble with what. AMD build: DFI motherboard (DK 790FX-M2RS AM2+/AM2 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard) Phenom (9550 Agena 2.2GHz Socket AM2+ 95W Quad-Core Processor Model HD9550WCGHBOX) Corsair RAM (XMS2 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX) edit: some basic specs in quotes if you don't feel like clicking on the links let me know if there are any combinations of processor motherboard and RAM that are better in the same general price range. I've been out of the front line of product for a few months now and really don't know where to start up again everything is so shiny. In any case the AMD build is up there because I have always liked AMD's stuff but i hear that the Phenoms are basically fail. THOUGHTS? __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU Last edited by temeteus82; May 25, 2008 at 09:34 AM. Reason: Custom colors and fonts removed because they weren't visible on all site themes.

May 25, 2008, 07:24 AM	Thread Starter #2
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	seeing that there are no replies here I am going to assume that posting up specs of a machine and asking others' opinions on it isn't really ok. Haven't been on here in awhile so never mind on that whole thing. In any case I'm going to go with an intel build for sure now unless there is something that i don't know about AMD that I should. Now, my only real question is about compatibility. What chipset is best suited for my choice of the Yorkfield lines of processor? I really am lost when it comes to the intel side of things. Just a point in the right direction would be helpful __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

May 25, 2008, 09:12 AM	#3
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	i think DFI LP "DK" is a lower cost model of the UT/LT model boards, however, since DFI provides on all DFI LP UT/LT and DK models that based on Intel P35-X48's a very good CMOS setting options for overclocking both CPU and RAM, so their boards are at the top choices of many overclockers as far as i know. i also heard that DFI "DK" "T2RS" both P35 and X48 boards are pretty good overclocker for C2Q's processors, but i cannot confirm that this is also include the Yorkfield that are available today. when the new P45 based boards in retail stores, i would expected to see that there are quite a few of the boards that can perform better in terms of overclocking the Yorkfield's. Last edited by PangingJr; May 25, 2008 at 09:25 AM.

May 25, 2008, 11:58 AM	#5
Mousey Synth's Long Lost Bro Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Web Design Hell Posts: 7,189 Rep Power: 245 System Specs	Definately go Intel, Intel are dominating the market top bottom left and right atm with top performance components at a miniscule price. Plus they overclock better, have a lower thermal output and use less power. AMD have got some serious ground to gain, the Phenoms were a desperate last attempt at getting back into the market. Now they need to win us back with some LEGENDARY performance graphics cards at a MINISCULE price __________________

May 25, 2008, 04:00 PM	#7
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	go intel but id swap out the Q9300 for a Q6600 if you are gonna do some serious OCing...... the core is too new and doesnt OC too good, lower multiplier too.... also get rid of the POS COrsair CAS 5 RAM and get either the Crucial Ballistix 2x2gb sticks or COrsair CAS 4 2x2GB sticks.... everything else is good __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

May 26, 2008, 03:35 AM	Thread Starter #8
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	alright sounds good to me I think ill drop back to the Q6600 and use the same DFI board that I have. In the past I have had good luck with crucial so that ay very well be the way im going. Now that I stop and think about it I have had so many troubles with the corsair RAM I have now I don't know why i decided on that . in any case that looks like what im going with after I get paid this coming week YAY thanks all __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

May 26, 2008, 06:13 AM	#9
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	good luck __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

May 26, 2008, 06:27 AM	#10
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	OCZ DDR2 PC2-9200 Flex II 4GB RAM kit. ICs are from PSC, running DDR2-1200 at 2.08V OCZ Flex II - Life at 1200MHz - AnandTech: OCZ Flex II - Life at 1200MHz

May 26, 2008, 05:13 PM	Thread Starter #11
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	ok RAM has been changed out for the crucial Ballistix 2X4gb kit. Its also a little cheaper than the corsair so thats always a plus and I've changed out the york for a kents Q6600 so as soon as the RAM comes back in stock we will be in business __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

May 26, 2008, 05:23 PM	#12
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	when you said 4x2GB i was like running back to newegg to see........ lol you mean 2x2GB? and the normal Ballistix wont be in stock for a long time so id get the Tracer versions __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

May 27, 2008, 02:04 PM	Thread Starter #13
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	yeah my bad my fingers and brain weren't cooperating that well at that moment. I meant 4GB total 2X2 __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

May 27, 2008, 02:55 PM	#14
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	lol __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

May 29, 2008, 06:39 AM	#15
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	I'd still consider the AMD machine. It won't be AS FAST as the C2D/Q but it will still be plenty fast. Its tooooo fashionable to bash AMD these days . Granted Intel is producing the better processor but there's really nothing wrong with AMD's stuff. Its all rock solid and very well thought out. By no means are Phenom's a fail, except in the fact that they failed to take the top performance crown from Intel's flagship CPU. Either way I commend the use of DFI motherboards in both cases. Great mobos.

May 29, 2008, 06:52 AM	Thread Starter #18
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	yeah you make a good point there. Anyone seen the AMD tricore chips? Interesting to say the least if you are on a budget. __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

May 29, 2008, 07:03 AM	#19
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Odd birds those, but so far only rumors at this point. I've never seen one for sale locally.

May 29, 2008, 01:33 PM	Thread Starter #20
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	prepare to see AMD tri-core Phenom found them the other day on newegg people seem to like them quite a bit __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU