Serious Processor / Motherboard Issues

majormarkd · May 24, 2008, 06:21 AM

alright... long story short i have a few questions and concerns... im pretty sure im already @*(#$&'d...

do core 2 duo wolfdale processors have pins like the old p4 processors?

i ask this because... mine does not...

i upgraded from a 3.0 p4 to a new e8400 in my MSI p6n platinum and could not post... after pulling every component and most cables... i decided to look at the cpu and double check the pin connections (make sure any werent bent)... when i pulled it away it was very hot and there were... NO pins...

i honestly cant remember if there were pins when i installed it and i cannot find a picture of one to see if they have them... to me it would be wild for them not to have it but iunno...

anyway i grabbed my old 3.0 p4 and tried installing it... a short post then my system shut down... tried a couple more times and pulled it... once i pulled it i noticed it also had no pins....

now maybe im just crazy and didnt notice / dont remember them getting rid of pins on processors... i know the very old p4 2.2s and such had them and i coulda sworn my 3.0 had them also but im honestly not sure...

has my motherboard just melted off the pins of 2 processors? or am i just an idiot thats having other issues with my computer?

**temeteus82** · May 24, 2008, 08:30 AM

It's true c2d's don't have pins at all. The pins that connect it to the motherboard are in the socket it self.

Make sure that the cpu's are placed correctly on the socket. And try to reset BIOS by removing the battery on the motherboard for few seconds.

**Mousey** · May 24, 2008, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by temeteus82

It's true c2d's don't have pins at all. The pins that connect it to the motherboard are in the socket it self.

Make sure that the cpu's are placed correctly on the socket. And try to reset BIOS by removing the battery on the motherboard for few seconds.

All C2D Processors and as a matter of fact ALL 775 CPUs don't have pins, i think teme's right, you might have installed the CPU the wrong way round if it didn't post at all. There should be like 2 notches on the socket? Try lining up the cpu with those notches. this should help (not trying to sound patronising btw, the best of us have installed cpus the wrong way round before, i've forgotten to install a heatsink an alarming number of times lol).

YouTube - Intel LGA 775 install movie

tcman · May 24, 2008, 11:07 AM

The socket 775 processors never had pins, the pins are on the socket 775 itself.

If I am right there's no other way to fit the cpu in the socket 775 because the notches.

Make sure you have updated the MSI P6N platinum (Nforce 650 sli) with the newest bios that can support the newer Core 2 Duo processors like the E7X00 and E8X00 series. The P6N SLI Platinum is launched before the Penryne processors are released, so you need to update the bios for the support for the newer processors.

Here's the cpu support list for your motherboard:
MSI P6N SLI Platinum cpu support list

The motherboard supports the mentioned processor since bios ver. 1.6 (the latest bios that's available).

Good luck!

**kris23** · May 24, 2008, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by majormarkd

has my motherboard just melted off the pins of 2 processors? or am i just an idiot thats having other issues with my computer?

yup you are an idiot.....

lol no not not really.... its not like you tried to install it on an old PGA478 board..... if you did then youd truly be an idiot and there would be no contact with the CPU in the first place.....

and as everyone said, LGA775 CPUs never had pins, theyre all in the socket of the motherboard.

and on the whole system shutting down thing, did you even buy thermal paste? sounds like you removed the CPU, cleaned it, and put it back in with no paste so it overheats and shuts down.....

to solve your problem.... update your BIOS and be sure to have the heatsink properly installed before booting the computer up...

good luck man!

info_3d · May 24, 2008, 06:38 PM

I have an Intel 945GNT Motherboard & an Intel P3 3Ghz Processor. Some days ago i upgrade my BIOS. Now Can i use a Core 2 duo processor in this MB?

**MIG-31** · May 24, 2008, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by info_3d

I have an Intel 945GNT Motherboard & an Intel P3 3Ghz Processor. Some days ago i upgrade my BIOS. Now Can i use a Core 2 duo processor in this MB?

Did you take a look at the read me that comes with the bios update..switching from a P3 to a Dual core pc is very much doubtfull.It's going to come down to the chipset the board uses.

After a quick google it looks like the Intel 945GNT will only go as high as a P4.

Any way take a look Here

**Mousey** · May 24, 2008, 09:13 PM

And definately follow Kris's suggestion of Thermal Paste man.

procupine14 · May 25, 2008, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mousey

And definately follow Kris's suggestion of Thermal Paste man.

Kind of funny to think that at one time there were processors out there that had heatsinks put straight on them without any.

granted thats some old stuff but its funny to say the least

PangingJr · May 26, 2008, 08:44 AM

and how the CPU be installed the wrong way in its socket on that board, hmm how the CPU be secured in the LGA775 socket? Mousey.

can that CPU be installed in the socket or can it even boot with a bent or two in the socket? hmm i don't know, but check for any slightly bent pins in the socket anyway.

**Mousey** · May 26, 2008, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by PangingJr

and how the CPU be installed the wrong way in its socket on that board, hmm how the CPU be secured in the LGA775 socket? Mousey.

can that CPU be installed in the socket or can it even boot with a bent or two in the socket? hmm i don't know, but check for any slightly bent pins in the socket anyway.

Nah it won't even boot if there's bent pins i tihnk, eitheir that or you'll probably have your mobo asplode in glorious meltedsiliconovision

And hush, even i've tried to put my cpu in the wrong way before. lol. i just noticed it before i started my rig

procupine14 · May 26, 2008, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mousey

Nah it won't even boot if there's bent pins i tihnk, eitheir that or you'll probably have your mobo asplode in glorious meltedsiliconovision

And hush, even i've tried to put my cpu in the wrong way before. lol. i just noticed it before i started my rig

most likely at least half of us have done this at some point

H3X4D3C1M4L · May 29, 2008, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIG-31

Did you take a look at the read me that comes with the bios update..switching from a P3 to a Dual core pc is very much doubtfull.It's going to come down to the chipset the board uses.

After a quick google it looks like the Intel 945GNT will only go as high as a P4.

Any way take a look Here

I guess you didn't notice he has a 3GHz P3. I think that means we can make an exception

The 945GNT will go as high as a P4 but not as low as a P3. So what he meant to say was a P4 3GHz, but either way there's not going to be any C2D loving on that motherboard.

**MIG-31** · May 29, 2008, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by H3X4D3C1M4L

I guess you didn't notice he has a 3GHz P3. I think that means we can make an exception

I said switching from the > Pentium 3 he has < (Hence P3) to a dual core cpu is very much doubtfull....

His question was will my mobo make use of the Intel Dual Core cpu after his recent Bios update.The link i gave list the compatible cpus for the board from Intel...

Looks to me somebody needs some sleep.

H3X4D3C1M4L · May 29, 2008, 07:04 AM

Needing sleep is beside the point

Quote:

Originally Posted by info_3d

I have an Intel 945GNT Motherboard & an Intel P3 3Ghz Processor. Some days ago i upgrade my BIOS. Now Can i use a Core 2 duo processor in this MB?

I made a funny in saying that since he has such an odd speciman of a CPU we can make an exception for him. I didn't think it was THAT bad a joke...

**MIG-31** · May 29, 2008, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by H3X4D3C1M4L

Needing sleep is beside the point

I made a funny in saying that since he has such an odd speciman of a CPU we can make an exception for him. I didn't think it was THAT bad a joke...

Ah Gotcha.... sorry but it did not come accross as a joke..did not realise that was the point

H3X4D3C1M4L · May 29, 2008, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MIG-31

Ah Gotcha.... sorry but it did not come accross as a joke..did not realise that was the point

It happens man... it happens

Actually if you think about it, since the P3 was based on the P6 architecture and the Core 2 Duo came about from the mobile Core processors (which were based on the P3 and not the NetBurst processors), a Core 2 Duo is somewhat like a 3GHz dual core Pentium 3. Maybe. I don't know.

About that sleep...

procupine14 · May 29, 2008, 07:32 PM

interesting connection there

**Mousey** · May 29, 2008, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by H3X4D3C1M4L

It happens man... it happens

Actually if you think about it, since the P3 was based on the P6 architecture and the Core 2 Duo came about from the mobile Core processors (which were based on the P3 and not the NetBurst processors), a Core 2 Duo is somewhat like a 3GHz dual core Pentium 3. Maybe. I don't know.

About that sleep...

I'd say sleep sounds good, you appear to be speaking from your rectum

PangingJr · May 31, 2008, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mousey

And hush, even i've tried to put my cpu in the wrong way before. lol. i just noticed it before i started my rig

hmm lol.

RoyBatty · Jun 1, 2008, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mousey

And hush, even i've tried to put my cpu in the wrong way before. lol. i just noticed it before i started my rig

How did you do that? As far as I know (I did my first LGA775 installation two days ago

) it is impossible to insert the CPU incorrectly.

**Mousey** · Jun 1, 2008, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoyBatty

How did you do that? As far as I know (I did my first LGA775 installation two days ago

) it is impossible to insert the CPU incorrectly.

couldn't close the loading plate so i tried to force it, it's only when i realised the cpu wasn't in the socket properly i turned it round lol

PangingJr · Jun 1, 2008, 12:43 PM

pretty slick answers you have there, Mousey. good job, lol.

**kris23** · Jun 1, 2008, 05:09 PM

watever happened to the thread starter?

PangingJr · Jun 1, 2008, 05:37 PM

either he's figured out something that made the board and processor booted up fine, or by now he's probably looking for a few new pieces of hardware.
but yeah i wonder too.

**Mousey** · Jun 1, 2008, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PangingJr

pretty slick answers you have there, Mousey. good job, lol.

why thank you

lol

PangingJr · Jun 1, 2008, 07:09 PM

you're welcome, Mousey.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jun 25, 2008, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mousey

I'd say sleep sounds good, you appear to be speaking from your rectum

Not so much. If you look at it, the current Core 2 processors were based more closely on the Pentium 3 microarchitecure than anything. Very little (if anything) was carried over from NetBurst (the microarchitecture of the P4)

May 24, 2008, 06:21 AM	#1
majormarkd DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	Serious Processor / Motherboard Issues alright... long story short i have a few questions and concerns... im pretty sure im already @*(#$&'d... do core 2 duo wolfdale processors have pins like the old p4 processors? i ask this because... mine does not... i upgraded from a 3.0 p4 to a new e8400 in my MSI p6n platinum and could not post... after pulling every component and most cables... i decided to look at the cpu and double check the pin connections (make sure any werent bent)... when i pulled it away it was very hot and there were... NO pins... i honestly cant remember if there were pins when i installed it and i cannot find a picture of one to see if they have them... to me it would be wild for them not to have it but iunno... anyway i grabbed my old 3.0 p4 and tried installing it... a short post then my system shut down... tried a couple more times and pulled it... once i pulled it i noticed it also had no pins.... now maybe im just crazy and didnt notice / dont remember them getting rid of pins on processors... i know the very old p4 2.2s and such had them and i coulda sworn my 3.0 had them also but im honestly not sure... has my motherboard just melted off the pins of 2 processors? or am i just an idiot thats having other issues with my computer?

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May 24, 2008, 11:07 AM	#4
tcman DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 65 Rep Power: 0	The socket 775 processors never had pins, the pins are on the socket 775 itself. If I am right there's no other way to fit the cpu in the socket 775 because the notches. Make sure you have updated the MSI P6N platinum (Nforce 650 sli) with the newest bios that can support the newer Core 2 Duo processors like the E7X00 and E8X00 series. The P6N SLI Platinum is launched before the Penryne processors are released, so you need to update the bios for the support for the newer processors. Here's the cpu support list for your motherboard: MSI P6N SLI Platinum cpu support list The motherboard supports the mentioned processor since bios ver. 1.6 (the latest bios that's available). Good luck!

May 24, 2008, 06:38 PM	#6
info_3d DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	I have an Intel 945GNT Motherboard & an Intel P3 3Ghz Processor. Some days ago i upgrade my BIOS. Now Can i use a Core 2 duo processor in this MB?

May 26, 2008, 08:44 AM	#10
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	and how the CPU be installed the wrong way in its socket on that board, hmm how the CPU be secured in the LGA775 socket? Mousey. can that CPU be installed in the socket or can it even boot with a bent or two in the socket? hmm i don't know, but check for any slightly bent pins in the socket anyway.

Jun 1, 2008, 12:43 PM	#23
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	pretty slick answers you have there, Mousey. good job, lol.

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PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	either he's figured out something that made the board and processor booted up fine, or by now he's probably looking for a few new pieces of hardware. but yeah i wonder too.

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PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	you're welcome, Mousey.