Have aboslutely no Idea, What are the best mice and keyboard for gaming ? Options

Mirey86 · Jul 11, 2008, 08:01 AM

hey,

my budget is 75 $ CA Maximum for both. My postal code is H1T1Z1

I can buy from these three sites:

Premier Computer Canada

TigerDirect.ca - Computers, Computer Parts, Computer Accessories, PC Components & Electronics

FUTURESHOP.ca

Any suggestion will be welcomed, thanks
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Nachbrenner · Jul 11, 2008, 08:48 AM

Check out products from Logitech
I'm using mouse and joypad from them since years w/o problems.
Drivers are already on Windoes install CDs, so you don't have to care about that.

My keyboard is from Microsoft for 12€, good enough for me.

btw keep in mind that you can't access BIOS with a USB keyboard

Mr cairo · Jul 11, 2008, 10:29 AM

its all subjective m8 one guys fab mouse will be another guys nightmare mouse i agree with Nachbrenner though i use the Logitech mouse and board and love them

some though will recommend MS some will swear by Razor it all down to what you try and like

procupine14 · Jul 11, 2008, 09:07 PM

I like Logitech and my brother enjoys his Razer set A LOT

I will guarantee one thing.....Razer is cheaper generally.

I use the (real) Logitech G15 (old BETTER) model and a G7 mouse but im thinking that that particular combo is a little out of your price range? maybe?

Tipstaff · Jul 12, 2008, 01:48 PM

Logitech usually have great keyboards. Nice soft keys, very responsive, and the key buttons like the return, left and right shift/ctrl/alt keys are where they should be, and of normal/standard size. Logitech's desktop mice are nice, but their laptop mice are seriously lacking. I tend to stay away from wireless mice for gaming as they can sometimes be too heavy, and there can be response delay in certain situtations.

My combo? Logitech G15 keyboard with a Logitech G5 mouse. I particularly like the G5 as it has a weight system, so you can customize the weight of the mouse to your liking. Other ones I liked from them are the older MX518 which you can still find, however the price is usually the same as the G5. Your best bet is the G3. It has all the features of the G5, but without the weight system. Logitech doesn't make it anymore, so whatever is out there is all that's left. Problem is retailers like Futureshop sell the thing for way too damn much ($60), but if you check other online retailers, such as NCIX, you can find it for around $30-40.

Speaking of which, your choice of retailers, is it limited to the fact that you can go there in person? The reason I ask is that it is usually better to grab from an online retailer. NCIX, for instance, is in BC, and they don't charge GST on any of their stuff, plus they tend to sell things at a reasonable markup above their cost price.

Oh, and don't forget that having a good gaming mouse needs a good gaming mouse pad. People usually splurge on the device, but forget the surface they are going to use them on. Trying to use a mouse that has 2000dpi sensitivity, and snot slick feet on a black mouse pad made to grip a balled mouse, definitely not a good combination.

Zardon · Jul 12, 2008, 03:04 PM

probably outside your budget a bit but I really rate the logitech G9 laser mouse. rather costly though.

Matth · Jul 12, 2008, 05:45 PM

Looks like any set at that price is a compromise.

Looking at Tiger direct, if you went for a G5 mouse at $60.99, that leaves $14 for a keyboard

At Premier, G5 is $44.99, so that leaves $30 to splurge on the keyboard, or THEY have the G3 at $39.99, but do you really want to save $5 by doing without the weight system?

Or start with a gaming keyboard such as:
Ideazon Zboard ZBD-101 USB Gaming Keyboard $47.99
Saitek Eclipse Keyboard - USB 2.0, 104 Blue Backlit Keys $48.99
And you have $26-27 to play with for a mouse
Prolynkz PLM-618 Laser Mouse - 6-Button, USB in Canada at TigerDirect.ca - might be a worthy contender, a laser mouse, type "gaming mouse", for $15.99 - looks hard to beat if you let the keyboard lead your choice.

Cyber Snipa S.W.A.T. USB Optical Gaming Mouse CSLMSW01 in Canada at TigerDirect.ca - Cyber Snipa Swat mouse, limited stock at $30.99

If you could go a little higher, them maybe the G3 mouse from Premier and one of the two cheaper gaming keyboards from Tiger - it's the only way you'll get "gaming-class" components for each.

Either that, or get one really good component, such as a G5 gaming mouse and a throwaway keyboard, or the gaming keyboard and the cheap Prolynx laser (gaming) mouse.

Judas · Jul 15, 2008, 05:37 PM

IMO best combination ever is:

G9 logitech mouse with a Microsoft Erganomic 4000 keyboard....

if the g9 is to much, the REV2 of the G5 isn't bad... but man the G9 is so damn good..

Hopefully logitech makes a slightly larger mouse then the G9 yet... i'm still smothering the mice, need something bigger.... my hands are just to damn big apparently.

MitchRapp · Jul 17, 2008, 02:59 AM

weird though... the guy who said you can't access a BIOS with a USB keyboard...
I've accessed the BIOS on several machines using several different kinds of USB keyboards and mice (including RF and BT ones)...

Anyways I game with the G15 keyboard (could get it real cheap now that it's "old") from Logitech as well as the MX Revolution (sorry that's kind of expensive but you can always try to find it on special for less than 50)

swimtech · Jul 17, 2008, 03:43 AM

I can second what Tipstaff noted about wireless - keyboard in my case. The MS Wireless 4000 I got caused nasty pauses in UT3, but the wireless mouse that came with it is working decently (and I like my mouse lightweight) - wired USB keyboard is fine with this mainboard and Vista 64 Ultimate.

jp306 · Jul 17, 2008, 06:15 AM

I have to say that I love my Logitech MX518se mouse($40 at Target, but I've seen it on sale there for $30, after I got mine of course...) . It has had a major impact on my PC gaming experience. I use a cheap keyboard I got from newegg like 5 years ago for $10 shipped. I might have just got lucky with the keyboard though, but for me it's not near as important than the mouse. I did buy a Saitek eclipse a few months back, but took it back because it just didn't impress me like I thought it would. My GF did have the same Saitek keyboard though and she loved it... So I would go type on some display models and just try to see what you like and feels good to you.

procupine14 · Jul 17, 2008, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pepiman

weird though... the guy who said you can't access a BIOS with a USB keyboard...
I've accessed the BIOS on several machines using several different kinds of USB keyboards and mice (including RF and BT ones)...

Anyways I game with the G15 keyboard (could get it real cheap now that it's "old") from Logitech as well as the MX Revolution (sorry that's kind of expensive but you can always try to find it on special for less than 50)

I have had that problem mostly with ECS boards paired with keyboards like the G15 for some reason they do not play well. Also, slightly older boards have this distinct problem. I remember when I first bought my G15 when they came out and I had to keep a ps/2 keyboard plugged in and tucked away for when I needed to get into the BIOS

Judas · Jul 17, 2008, 03:37 PM

i've seen a good number of boards with rediculious issues with USB keyboards...

but in todays day and age... it's really a non fact at this point...

Nachbrenner · Jul 17, 2008, 04:24 PM

Actually it was a while ago when i tried BIOS access with USB keyboard.
I'm surprised that manufacturers don't advertise that as a "feature" now.

I assume when manufacturers will be using EFI instead of BIOS it won't be an issue in future.

Judas · Jul 17, 2008, 04:41 PM

i look forward to EFI as well as have a great concern for it

Nachbrenner · Jul 19, 2008, 07:06 AM

Just stumbled over a current review:
Quirky keyboards - CNET Reviews

The "Kinesis" looks feasible for bodybuilders

**Mousey** · Jul 19, 2008, 10:05 AM

I use a Saitek Eclipse 1 with red backlighting, and a Razer Krait. perfect for me.
Heh, the WSAD keys are scratched to hell on this board, the other ones seem fine. lol

Jul 11, 2008, 08:01 AM	#1
Mirey86 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2008 Location: canada Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	Have aboslutely no Idea, What are the best mice and keyboard for gaming ? Options hey, my budget is 75 $ CA Maximum for both. My postal code is H1T1Z1 I can buy from these three sites: Premier Computer Canada TigerDirect.ca - Computers, Computer Parts, Computer Accessories, PC Components & Electronics FUTURESHOP.ca Any suggestion will be welcomed, thanks _________________ Last edited by temeteus82; Jul 13, 2008 at 04:36 PM.

Jul 11, 2008, 10:29 AM	#3
Mr cairo F0rum For Humans Only Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Slightly to the left Posts: 1,780 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	its all subjective m8 one guys fab mouse will be another guys nightmare mouse i agree with Nachbrenner though i use the Logitech mouse and board and love them some though will recommend MS some will swear by Razor it all down to what you try and like __________________ *Please consider Sponsoring my wife for the race for life*

Jul 11, 2008, 09:07 PM	#4
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	I like Logitech and my brother enjoys his Razer set A LOT I will guarantee one thing.....Razer is cheaper generally. I use the (real) Logitech G15 (old BETTER) model and a G7 mouse but im thinking that that particular combo is a little out of your price range? maybe? __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

Jul 12, 2008, 01:48 PM	#5
Tipstaff HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Real capital of Canada: Torauna Posts: 6,773 Rep Power: 190 System Specs	Logitech usually have great keyboards. Nice soft keys, very responsive, and the key buttons like the return, left and right shift/ctrl/alt keys are where they should be, and of normal/standard size. Logitech's desktop mice are nice, but their laptop mice are seriously lacking. I tend to stay away from wireless mice for gaming as they can sometimes be too heavy, and there can be response delay in certain situtations. My combo? Logitech G15 keyboard with a Logitech G5 mouse. I particularly like the G5 as it has a weight system, so you can customize the weight of the mouse to your liking. Other ones I liked from them are the older MX518 which you can still find, however the price is usually the same as the G5. Your best bet is the G3. It has all the features of the G5, but without the weight system. Logitech doesn't make it anymore, so whatever is out there is all that's left. Problem is retailers like Futureshop sell the thing for way too damn much ($60), but if you check other online retailers, such as NCIX, you can find it for around $30-40. Speaking of which, your choice of retailers, is it limited to the fact that you can go there in person? The reason I ask is that it is usually better to grab from an online retailer. NCIX, for instance, is in BC, and they don't charge GST on any of their stuff, plus they tend to sell things at a reasonable markup above their cost price. Oh, and don't forget that having a good gaming mouse needs a good gaming mouse pad. People usually splurge on the device, but forget the surface they are going to use them on. Trying to use a mouse that has 2000dpi sensitivity, and snot slick feet on a black mouse pad made to grip a balled mouse, definitely not a good combination. __________________ Portal: The Flash Version _________________________________ Brain: So, you sacked the cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker? Mr. Sackett: The second cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker I've sacked since the sixth sitting sheet slitter got sick.

Jul 12, 2008, 05:45 PM	#7
Matth Flash Banner Hater Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: UK Posts: 3,426 Rep Power: 93 System Specs	Looks like any set at that price is a compromise. Looking at Tiger direct, if you went for a G5 mouse at $60.99, that leaves $14 for a keyboard At Premier, G5 is $44.99, so that leaves $30 to splurge on the keyboard, or THEY have the G3 at $39.99, but do you really want to save $5 by doing without the weight system? Or start with a gaming keyboard such as: Ideazon Zboard ZBD-101 USB Gaming Keyboard $47.99 Saitek Eclipse Keyboard - USB 2.0, 104 Blue Backlit Keys $48.99 And you have $26-27 to play with for a mouse Prolynkz PLM-618 Laser Mouse - 6-Button, USB in Canada at TigerDirect.ca - might be a worthy contender, a laser mouse, type "gaming mouse", for $15.99 - looks hard to beat if you let the keyboard lead your choice. Cyber Snipa S.W.A.T. USB Optical Gaming Mouse CSLMSW01 in Canada at TigerDirect.ca - Cyber Snipa Swat mouse, limited stock at $30.99 If you could go a little higher, them maybe the G3 mouse from Premier and one of the two cheaper gaming keyboards from Tiger - it's the only way you'll get "gaming-class" components for each. Either that, or get one really good component, such as a G5 gaming mouse and a throwaway keyboard, or the gaming keyboard and the cheap Prolynx laser (gaming) mouse. __________________ Mary had a little lamb, Her father shot it dead Now Mary takes her lamb to school, Between two crusts of bread

Jul 11, 2008, 08:48 AM	#2
Nachbrenner DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 80 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Check out products from Logitech I'm using mouse and joypad from them since years w/o problems. Drivers are already on Windoes install CDs, so you don't have to care about that. My keyboard is from Microsoft for 12€, good enough for me. btw keep in mind that you can't access BIOS with a USB keyboard

Jul 12, 2008, 03:04 PM	#6
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	probably outside your budget a bit but I really rate the logitech G9 laser mouse. rather costly though.

Jul 17, 2008, 02:59 AM	#9
MitchRapp a.k.a. pepiman Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 998 Rep Power: 51 System Specs	weird though... the guy who said you can't access a BIOS with a USB keyboard... I've accessed the BIOS on several machines using several different kinds of USB keyboards and mice (including RF and BT ones)... Anyways I game with the G15 keyboard (could get it real cheap now that it's "old") from Logitech as well as the MX Revolution (sorry that's kind of expensive but you can always try to find it on special for less than 50)

Jul 17, 2008, 03:43 AM	#10
swimtech HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,040 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	I can second what Tipstaff noted about wireless - keyboard in my case. The MS Wireless 4000 I got caused nasty pauses in UT3, but the wireless mouse that came with it is working decently (and I like my mouse lightweight) - wired USB keyboard is fine with this mainboard and Vista 64 Ultimate. __________________ It's not so much getting your way that matters or not - what matters is how you go about getting it.

Jul 17, 2008, 06:15 AM	#11
jp306 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 309 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I have to say that I love my Logitech MX518se mouse($40 at Target, but I've seen it on sale there for $30, after I got mine of course...) . It has had a major impact on my PC gaming experience. I use a cheap keyboard I got from newegg like 5 years ago for $10 shipped. I might have just got lucky with the keyboard though, but for me it's not near as important than the mouse. I did buy a Saitek eclipse a few months back, but took it back because it just didn't impress me like I thought it would. My GF did have the same Saitek keyboard though and she loved it... So I would go type on some display models and just try to see what you like and feels good to you. __________________ "I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet." Rodney Dangerfield.

Jul 17, 2008, 04:24 PM	#14
Nachbrenner DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 80 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Actually it was a while ago when i tried BIOS access with USB keyboard. I'm surprised that manufacturers don't advertise that as a "feature" now. I assume when manufacturers will be using EFI instead of BIOS it won't be an issue in future.

Jul 19, 2008, 07:06 AM	#16
Nachbrenner DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 80 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Just stumbled over a current review: Quirky keyboards - CNET Reviews The "Kinesis" looks feasible for bodybuilders

Jul 19, 2008, 10:05 AM	#17
Mousey Synth's Long Lost Bro Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Web Design Hell Posts: 7,189 Rep Power: 245 System Specs	I use a Saitek Eclipse 1 with red backlighting, and a Razer Krait. perfect for me. Heh, the WSAD keys are scratched to hell on this board, the other ones seem fine. lol __________________