Radeon X1950 PRO died - replacement?

WillC · Jul 17, 2008, 11:21 PM

I've come to the conclusion that my GPU has finally died after only 1 year. I fixed fans and the temperature, I like to believe, has dropped. However I think it was either too late, or the GPU may have been defective since I got it considering the artifacts instantly. I started up the computer, started a game and instantly it crashed with an error. This happens every time, and at least my card is finally predictable!

I think I'm gonna try an nVidia powered card, no good experiences with ATI and poor quality for me. nVidia can't be worse than only 1 yr of operation...

Being Canadian it is a bit harder for me to find the cheapest site that ships to me, but I think there are good sites, mainly TigerDirect.ca - Computers, Computer Parts, Computer Accessories, PC Components & Electronics and Buy Computer Parts, Computer Hardware, PC Parts at Best Online Computer Shop - DirectCanada but I don't know of others with CAD prices.

I have been looking at some cards, like XFX GeForce 8600 GTS Video Card - FREE Company of Heroes PC Game, 512MB DDR3, PCI Express, SLI Ready, (Dual Link) Dual DVI, HDTV, Video Card PVT84GYDQ3 in Canada at TigerDirect.ca, BFG GeForce 8800 GT OC2 Video Card - 512MB GDDR3, PCI Express 2.0, SLI Ready, (Dual Link) Dual DVI, HDTV, Video Card BFGE88512GTOC2E in Canada at TigerDirect.ca, and EVGA GeForce 8600 GTS Video Card - 512MB GDDR3, PCI Express, SLI Ready, Dual DVI, HDTV, Video Card 512-P2-N773-AR in Canada at TigerDirect.ca.

My mobo is GIGABYTE - Product - Motherboard - Overview - GA-965P-DS3 (rev. 1.0), and my PSU is OCZ GameXStream 700-Watt ATX 120mm Fan SATA Ready SLI Ready EPS Active PFC Power Supply OCZ700GXSSLI in Canada at TigerDirect.ca.

Do you guys think the ones I picked are good, I have no knowledge of nVidia so I was just wondering. My buget atm is only $200 CAD and I appreciate any help. Any card that is (much preferably) better than a HIS ATI Radeon x1950 PRO is good and I don't mind spending between $120-200.

EDIT: I also found this which is cheaper than the other 8800GT I was looking at: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...332&CatId=3670

cozumel · Jul 18, 2008, 12:46 AM

I love my EVGA 8800GT.

And the 8800 should spank the 8600 if your budget will stretch.

WillC · Jul 18, 2008, 01:09 AM

Ok cool, so I am looking at the 8800GT right now, I have found it on 2 of my trustworthy CAD sites. directcanda.com has cheaper shipping but I just wanted to confirm... I was looking at the http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11610BD7667 and someone told me that this card is still good and you can overclock it easily so the "superclocked" does not mean too much in this case. Also I noticed it is an E-Geforce, is that any different than a normal Geforce?

cozumel · Jul 18, 2008, 02:37 AM

E-GeForce? Don't really know. I think it's just a marketing thing from EVGA and they really just GeForce tech...

WillC · Jul 18, 2008, 02:59 AM

Ok thanks I think I'm going to get it.

procupine14 · Jul 18, 2008, 02:32 PM

Good choice! I was planning on picking one of those up for my upgrade soon but now that those new 4850's are out thats probably the direction im going to go in

**kris23** · Jul 19, 2008, 01:02 AM

4850 would spank the 8800/9800 series..........

cozumel · Jul 19, 2008, 01:31 AM

Hey kris...is e-GeForce just an evga marketing thing or what??

**kris23** · Jul 19, 2008, 02:01 AM

pretty much.....

just like when you see the manufacturer name like BFG GeForce, Gigabyte GeForce, and im assuming EVGA GeForce.....

even if there was any EVGA only tech in the card, it probably isnt anything much as theres 0% performance increase or effects compared to any other geforceof the same type from a different manufacturer

Ubergrendle · Jul 22, 2008, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WillC

Ok cool, so I am looking at the 8800GT right now, I have found it on 2 of my trustworthy CAD sites. directcanda.com has cheaper shipping but I just wanted to confirm... I was looking at the EVGA E-GEFORCE 8800GT 600MHZ 512MB 1.8GHZ DDR3 PCI-E Dual DVI-I HDTV Out Video Card - DirectCanada and someone told me that this card is still good and you can overclock it easily so the "superclocked" does not mean too much in this case. Also I noticed it is an E-Geforce, is that any different than a normal Geforce?

Assuming its not too late, have you considered Canada Computers - Your Neighbourhood Computer Store and Service Centre - PC Systems and Hardware Components, Notebooks, Electronics, and more. or Infonec Computers - Computer parts Canada, PC Components, laptop computers, motherboards, processors, CPU’s and much more

Both sites are very reliable and great stock w/ great prices to match. Not sure how good they are for shipping though. They're located throughout the greater toronto area.

DJ BIG T · Jul 23, 2008, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kris23

4850 would spank the 8800/9800 series..........

it might spank them but at least i know geforce drivers will support all my games...not talking bad about ati but thats why i got reed of my 1950 to many driver issues...

CDsDontBurn · Jul 30, 2008, 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cozumel

Hey kris...is e-GeForce just an evga marketing thing or what??

Quote:

Originally Posted by kris23

pretty much.....

just like when you see the manufacturer name like BFG GeForce, Gigabyte GeForce, and im assuming EVGA GeForce.....

even if there was any EVGA only tech in the card, it probably isnt anything much as theres 0% performance increase or effects compared to any other geforceof the same type from a different manufacturer

no difference really other than the customer service/warranty of the company in question

to my understanding when dealing with NVIDA, EVGA is the best in the business

zarkov · Jul 30, 2008, 05:38 AM

Hello, I buy most of my stuff through NCIX.COM they deal in Canadian prices and price match other Canadian shops/ We will always get the short end financially but what the hell it is by far worth living here. Oh yeah now I don't want to get into a political thing . I love my US relatives !

CDsDontBurn · Jul 30, 2008, 05:44 AM

Newegg.ca is soon approaching

procupine14 · Jul 30, 2008, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

Newegg.ca is soon approaching

well that would be a nice deal for our friends to the north

yeah I think ATi has really done a great deal of driver improvement in gaming under their platform. But who knows. I know I'm going to give them a second shot. The last card I had from them was the X700 which is still being used at my parents' house. I liked that card a lot but the Nvidia route was so much more bang for the buck when I was looking for a card so I went to them

CDsDontBurn · Jul 30, 2008, 05:49 PM

my last "upgrade" was to my current x1950pro AGP, lol. the card isn't all that great, it artifacts (minor but noticeable) as soon as i start playing games. so, i've gone the route of the console until my next upgrade.

idk if i'll go with ATI or not. probably won't though because my work deals alot with NVIDIA based stuff though.

Neshi · Aug 1, 2008, 08:54 PM

Is sending it for a RMA not an option?
I mean, I know for sure those things have a longer warranty then just 1 year.

cozumel · Aug 3, 2008, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neshi

Is sending it for a RMA not an option?
I mean, I know for sure those things have a longer warranty then just 1 year.

In the UK fitness for purpose and satisfactory quality are just two parts of the consumer protection legislation that operate over and beyond a warranty period. So if, for example, your £1,000 plasma monitor failed two months after warranty and the replacement part cost say £500, then the reseller/manufacturer would have a legal duty to repair or replace the monitor free of charge.

Neshi · Aug 3, 2008, 03:51 PM

yea.. So I don't really see the point in getting a whole new card if he could send the x1950pro for repair.

CDsDontBurn · Aug 3, 2008, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cozumel

In the UK fitness for purpose and satisfactory quality are just two parts of the consumer protection legislation that operate over and beyond a warranty period. So if, for example, your £1,000 plasma monitor failed two months after warranty and the replacement part cost say £500, then the reseller/manufacturer would have a legal duty to repair or replace the monitor free of charge.

haha. here in the states, you'd be SOL

some people get pissed, but that's what the american flag is all about, capitalism

cozumel · Aug 3, 2008, 06:19 PM

You would have to demonstrate with a report from an independent trade recognised technician that the £500 component had failed for reasons other than fair wear and tear, and that it should operate normally for a significantly longer period. You would probably have to pay for the technician yourself and negotiate a settlement with the reseller/manufacturer at a later date but this would not be guaranteed. Overall, it is a very grey area but it has been done many tiumes before in the UK by individuals who have the time and patience to see it through.

Neshi · Aug 4, 2008, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

haha. here in the states, you'd be SOL

some people get pissed, but that's what the american flag is all about, capitalism

I guess I was lucky with my card then...
I bought it off a guy on the internet, he sold me a dead card.
It was sapphire, so I RMA'd it to Sapphire.
I didn't have the receit, but it still got fixed no questions asked.
Warranty was long over and gone.. I just paid shipping..

CDsDontBurn · Aug 4, 2008, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neshi

I guess I was lucky with my card then...
I bought it off a guy on the internet, he sold me a dead card.
It was sapphire, so I RMA'd it to Sapphire.
I didn't have the receit, but it still got fixed no questions asked.
Warranty was long over and gone.. I just paid shipping..

you got lucky then, lol. you fell through the cracks in the system and got it replaced through RMA

Jul 17, 2008, 11:21 PM	#1
WillC HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 114 Rep Power: 0	Radeon X1950 PRO died - replacement? I've come to the conclusion that my GPU has finally died after only 1 year. I fixed fans and the temperature, I like to believe, has dropped. However I think it was either too late, or the GPU may have been defective since I got it considering the artifacts instantly. I started up the computer, started a game and instantly it crashed with an error. This happens every time, and at least my card is finally predictable! I think I'm gonna try an nVidia powered card, no good experiences with ATI and poor quality for me. nVidia can't be worse than only 1 yr of operation... Being Canadian it is a bit harder for me to find the cheapest site that ships to me, but I think there are good sites, mainly TigerDirect.ca - Computers, Computer Parts, Computer Accessories, PC Components & Electronics and Buy Computer Parts, Computer Hardware, PC Parts at Best Online Computer Shop - DirectCanada but I don't know of others with CAD prices. I have been looking at some cards, like XFX GeForce 8600 GTS Video Card - FREE Company of Heroes PC Game, 512MB DDR3, PCI Express, SLI Ready, (Dual Link) Dual DVI, HDTV, Video Card PVT84GYDQ3 in Canada at TigerDirect.ca, BFG GeForce 8800 GT OC2 Video Card - 512MB GDDR3, PCI Express 2.0, SLI Ready, (Dual Link) Dual DVI, HDTV, Video Card BFGE88512GTOC2E in Canada at TigerDirect.ca, and EVGA GeForce 8600 GTS Video Card - 512MB GDDR3, PCI Express, SLI Ready, Dual DVI, HDTV, Video Card 512-P2-N773-AR in Canada at TigerDirect.ca. My mobo is GIGABYTE - Product - Motherboard - Overview - GA-965P-DS3 (rev. 1.0), and my PSU is OCZ GameXStream 700-Watt ATX 120mm Fan SATA Ready SLI Ready EPS Active PFC Power Supply OCZ700GXSSLI in Canada at TigerDirect.ca. Do you guys think the ones I picked are good, I have no knowledge of nVidia so I was just wondering. My buget atm is only $200 CAD and I appreciate any help. Any card that is (much preferably) better than a HIS ATI Radeon x1950 PRO is good and I don't mind spending between $120-200. EDIT: I also found this which is cheaper than the other 8800GT I was looking at: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...332&CatId=3670 Last edited by WillC; Jul 18, 2008 at 12:37 AM.

Jul 18, 2008, 12:46 AM	#2
cozumel I'm dangerous but cute... Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Under the waves... Posts: 3,577 Rep Power: 60 System Specs	I love my EVGA 8800GT. And the 8800 should spank the 8600 if your budget will stretch. __________________ Don't worry about money - Be a beach bum! Scuba Rocks

Jul 18, 2008, 01:09 AM	Thread Starter #3
WillC HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 114 Rep Power: 0	Ok cool, so I am looking at the 8800GT right now, I have found it on 2 of my trustworthy CAD sites. directcanda.com has cheaper shipping but I just wanted to confirm... I was looking at the http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11610BD7667 and someone told me that this card is still good and you can overclock it easily so the "superclocked" does not mean too much in this case. Also I noticed it is an E-Geforce, is that any different than a normal Geforce? Last edited by WillC; Jul 18, 2008 at 02:04 AM.

Jul 18, 2008, 02:37 AM	#4
cozumel I'm dangerous but cute... Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Under the waves... Posts: 3,577 Rep Power: 60 System Specs	E-GeForce? Don't really know. I think it's just a marketing thing from EVGA and they really just GeForce tech... __________________ Don't worry about money - Be a beach bum! Scuba Rocks

Jul 18, 2008, 02:32 PM	#6
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	Good choice! I was planning on picking one of those up for my upgrade soon but now that those new 4850's are out thats probably the direction im going to go in __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

Jul 18, 2008, 02:59 AM	Thread Starter #5
WillC HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 114 Rep Power: 0	Ok thanks I think I'm going to get it.

Jul 19, 2008, 01:02 AM	#7
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	4850 would spank the 8800/9800 series.......... __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jul 19, 2008, 01:31 AM	#8
cozumel I'm dangerous but cute... Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Under the waves... Posts: 3,577 Rep Power: 60 System Specs	Hey kris...is e-GeForce just an evga marketing thing or what?? __________________ Don't worry about money - Be a beach bum! Scuba Rocks

Jul 19, 2008, 02:01 AM	#9
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	pretty much..... just like when you see the manufacturer name like BFG GeForce, Gigabyte GeForce, and im assuming EVGA GeForce..... even if there was any EVGA only tech in the card, it probably isnt anything much as theres 0% performance increase or effects compared to any other geforceof the same type from a different manufacturer __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jul 30, 2008, 05:38 AM	#13
zarkov DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Good Canadian connection Hello, I buy most of my stuff through NCIX.COM they deal in Canadian prices and price match other Canadian shops/ We will always get the short end financially but what the hell it is by far worth living here. Oh yeah now I don't want to get into a political thing . I love my US relatives !

Jul 30, 2008, 05:44 AM	#14
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	Newegg.ca is soon approaching __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Jul 30, 2008, 05:49 PM	#16
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	my last "upgrade" was to my current x1950pro AGP, lol. the card isn't all that great, it artifacts (minor but noticeable) as soon as i start playing games. so, i've gone the route of the console until my next upgrade. idk if i'll go with ATI or not. probably won't though because my work deals alot with NVIDIA based stuff though. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Aug 1, 2008, 08:54 PM	#17
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,378 Rep Power: 177 System Specs	Is sending it for a RMA not an option? I mean, I know for sure those things have a longer warranty then just 1 year. __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's

Aug 3, 2008, 03:51 PM	#19
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,378 Rep Power: 177 System Specs	yea.. So I don't really see the point in getting a whole new card if he could send the x1950pro for repair. __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's

Aug 3, 2008, 06:19 PM	#21
cozumel I'm dangerous but cute... Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Under the waves... Posts: 3,577 Rep Power: 60 System Specs	You would have to demonstrate with a report from an independent trade recognised technician that the £500 component had failed for reasons other than fair wear and tear, and that it should operate normally for a significantly longer period. You would probably have to pay for the technician yourself and negotiate a settlement with the reseller/manufacturer at a later date but this would not be guaranteed. Overall, it is a very grey area but it has been done many tiumes before in the UK by individuals who have the time and patience to see it through. __________________ Don't worry about money - Be a beach bum! Scuba Rocks Last edited by cozumel; Aug 3, 2008 at 06:26 PM.