Wht is the best card in(performance/$)

comp_ali · Aug 28, 2008, 04:27 PM

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cozumel · Aug 28, 2008, 05:07 PM

I actually wanted to choose two: The 8800gt as the nVidia solution and 4870 as the ATI solution. In the end I settled for 4870...

Judas · Aug 28, 2008, 05:20 PM

hd4870/4850's are excellent

neverXmiss · Aug 28, 2008, 05:31 PM

gtx260 hands down. I've played with both the 4870 and the 260 and the 260 gives me good AA at a good frame rate, the 4870's plus is that it tops the 260 without AA

Judas · Aug 28, 2008, 05:32 PM

i don't know... the hd4870 gives pretty good FSAA results...... both give good results depending on the resolution and game played....

comp_ali · Aug 28, 2008, 07:03 PM

Sorry that I didn't put 9800 gt/gtx/gx2, gtx 280/260 As They are REALLY EXPENSIVE and don't acheive the best (p/$) ratio.

cozumel · Aug 28, 2008, 07:08 PM

^^^^That's funny^^^^

You edited due to grammar and you spelt grammar wrong lol

Partizan · Aug 28, 2008, 08:52 PM

My thumb up for HD4870

BlueMak · Aug 28, 2008, 08:57 PM

So my guess I am the only one who would vote for the 4870x2.

Judas · Aug 28, 2008, 09:18 PM

cost/performance ratio.. while pretty good.. isn't exactly a budget model

Syndicate2083 · Aug 28, 2008, 09:26 PM

I wouldnt say their price points are that outrageous compared to the comperable ATi cards, by performance index's not release times/top card out. If we get into the x2, then its even more an anyones game. nVidia and crew are out to chop prices, and are doing it fairly agressively. As an example:

GTX260 evga super clocked, 289$ in cart price.
Newegg.com - EVGA 896-P3-1262-AR GeForce GTX 260 Superclocked Edition 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards

ASUS 4870 255$
Newegg.com - ASUS EAH4870/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards

-Syn

|Slackster| · Aug 28, 2008, 09:28 PM

I'd say the 4850

cozumel · Aug 28, 2008, 09:59 PM

4870x2 is dirt cheap when you consider it has 2 GPUs. In the bang to buck stake, which is what this thread is about, it could well be the winner. I just voted on what was in the poll though. It is a bit stramge how there is so few nVidia cards in the poll. I reckon op must be a big ATI fanboy-or-girl heh

And why not. They have a long history of great cards. My old ATI 9800 is still being used in my sisters rig.

|Slackster| · Aug 28, 2008, 10:01 PM

What about the 9800GX2? Retailing for round £200 now?

BlueMak · Aug 28, 2008, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cozumel

4870x2 is dirt cheap when you consider it has 2 GPUs. In the bang to buck stake, which is what this thread is about, it could well be the winner. I just voted on what was in the poll though. It is a bit stramge how there is so few nVidia cards in the poll. I reckon op must be a big ATI fanboy-or-girl heh

And why not. They have a long history of great cards. My old ATI 9800 is still being used in my sisters rig.

Yes! Someone who agrees with me! :-p

No question about ATI cards, some of their models were great. The main reason I bought my 8800GTS 1.5 years ago was not that I wasn't satisfied with the performance of my X1800XT, but that the amount of noise out of it was too much. I can get used to some noise, but that thing was like a jet plane was patrolling the skies inside the PC case, where my 8800GTS...I can hardly hear it, relatively speaking.

Oh, one more reason I would vote for the 4870 is the DirectX 10.1 support.

comp_ali · Aug 28, 2008, 10:35 PM

coz
mm you win this time I have Nvidia 5500fx >>>hhhhhhhaaa. But when i saw my nephew ati card it was older and better though
I think nvidia is in the 2nd place now

Syndicate
Get your message>>>But if you have 2x 4870 it would be much better performing at a resonable price

Overclocker
so are you>>mmm In my google searches i found that the price range for 9800gx2 isn't that cheap

Chaos · Aug 29, 2008, 12:26 AM

depending on where you are located I have seen the 9800GX2 from EVGA available for just over $300 Canadian funds at NCIX

Syndicate2083 · Aug 29, 2008, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comp_ali

coz
mm you win this time I have Nvidia 5500fx >>>hhhhhhhaaa. But when i saw my nephew ati card it was older and better though
I think nvidia is in the 2nd place now

Syndicate
Get your message>>>But if you have 2x 4870 it would be much better performing at a resonable price

Overclocker
so are you>>mmm In my google searches i found that the price range for 9800gx2 isn't that cheap

Well likewise with two gtx260's... the price point is fairly similar, and if you go for a more standard 260, almost identical.

The 280's continue to drop in price, the 98xx cards the same, right now its becomming a really competitive market again, woot!

-Syn

procupine14 · Aug 29, 2008, 02:11 PM

well my vote was for the ATi 4870. I have always enjoyed ATi's product line and will upgrade soon =).

I also have to agree that ATi are reliable. i still have an X700 running strong in my parents' rig which has yet to hicckup.

(Also taking into account that I overclocked the crap out of it when it was new)

Syndicate2083 · Aug 29, 2008, 02:52 PM

Nice

I personally have had nothing but bad luck with any ATi purchase I've made, so I gave up on them and stuck with nVidia, havent been disappointed yet honestly.

I will recommend the ATi cards where appropriate, and I don't think that anyone who has one is evil or anything hahaha, more power to your choice!

-Syn

comp_ali · Aug 29, 2008, 03:29 PM

Well, I think nvidia is the same as Microsoft now just relasing new products that are not that level of competition( they are only caring about their how to be a trillionaire on some idiots budgets)

Syndicate2083 · Aug 29, 2008, 04:10 PM

I wouldn't go that far really. Their cards certainly aren't sub par. Benching is still pretty competitive really. Now that ATi is starting to again too were seeing more of a price war, and I can't wait to see nVidias answer to the new front line.

Sides, when theres no competition everyone gets 'lazy'. It's just the way of it, why fix what aint broke, as they say. Which is stupid, but makes sense if your competitor can't compete.

/shrug

-Syn

comp_ali · Aug 29, 2008, 04:48 PM

"I can't wait to see nVidias answer to the new front line"

I hope so.

swimtech · Aug 29, 2008, 05:30 PM

Was noticing, with the 4870 at $250 and the 4850 at $150, the price difference is just too much for even a 30% or so performance increase - the 4850 has the numbers for performance/value for sure - even comparing to a $100 3870 I believe.

Ferret_Style · Aug 29, 2008, 10:50 PM

This all depends on your budget. To be honest i have 2 X HD4850 and they are amazing. But if you budget is like 190 then get an OC HD4850... most of the other cards are more pricey. Again what is your budget?

Judas · Aug 29, 2008, 11:21 PM

interestingly.... for me.. the hd4850 compared to the hd4870 is only a 30ish percent different in price....

Ferret_Style · Aug 29, 2008, 11:27 PM

Check out the toxic HD4850 from sapphire... quite amazing for the price with zalman already installed and factory OC'd IT handles quite well for the price.

comp_ali · Aug 30, 2008, 09:31 AM

yes I agree that 4870 is quite expensive compared to the little increase from the 4850 performance

Aug 28, 2008, 04:27 PM	#1
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Aug 28, 2008, 05:07 PM	#2
cozumel I'm dangerous but cute... Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Under the waves... Posts: 3,577 Rep Power: 60 System Specs	I actually wanted to choose two: The 8800gt as the nVidia solution and 4870 as the ATI solution. In the end I settled for 4870... __________________ Don't worry about money - Be a beach bum! Scuba Rocks

Aug 28, 2008, 05:31 PM	#4
neverXmiss DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: California Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	gtx260 hands down. I've played with both the 4870 and the 260 and the 260 gives me good AA at a good frame rate, the 4870's plus is that it tops the 260 without AA __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0 GHZ CPU Cooler: CM Hyper 212 Motherboard: EVGA 750i FTW Video: MSI Geforce GTX 260 RAM: Wintec AMPX 4 GB DDR2 800 Current Case: CM 690 Future Case: CM HAF 932 PSU: CM Real Power Pro 850W

Aug 28, 2008, 07:03 PM	Thread Starter #6
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 10,469 Rep Power: 339 System Specs	Sorry that I didn't put 9800 gt/gtx/gx2, gtx 280/260 As They are REALLY EXPENSIVE and don't acheive the best (p/$) ratio. Last edited by temeteus82; Aug 28, 2008 at 07:11 PM. Reason: grammer

Aug 28, 2008, 07:08 PM	#7
cozumel I'm dangerous but cute... Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Under the waves... Posts: 3,577 Rep Power: 60 System Specs	^^^^That's funny^^^^ You edited due to grammar and you spelt grammar wrong lol __________________ Don't worry about money - Be a beach bum! Scuba Rocks

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Partizan Fun loving criminal Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Slovenia Posts: 1,182 Rep Power: 62 System Specs	My thumb up for HD4870 __________________ Live and let live!

Aug 28, 2008, 08:57 PM	#9
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,465 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	So my guess I am the only one who would vote for the 4870x2. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Aug 28, 2008, 09:26 PM	#11
Syndicate2083 HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Framingham, MA Posts: 228 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I wouldnt say their price points are that outrageous compared to the comperable ATi cards, by performance index's not release times/top card out. If we get into the x2, then its even more an anyones game. nVidia and crew are out to chop prices, and are doing it fairly agressively. As an example: GTX260 evga super clocked, 289$ in cart price. Newegg.com - EVGA 896-P3-1262-AR GeForce GTX 260 Superclocked Edition 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards ASUS 4870 255$ Newegg.com - ASUS EAH4870/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards -Syn __________________ -Crash the silence for the sake of memory. Intrinsic Realities, Veteran-USN.

Aug 28, 2008, 09:28 PM	#12
\|Slackster\| DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Manchester - UK Posts: 23 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I'd say the 4850 __________________

Aug 28, 2008, 09:59 PM	#13
cozumel I'm dangerous but cute... Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Under the waves... Posts: 3,577 Rep Power: 60 System Specs	4870x2 is dirt cheap when you consider it has 2 GPUs. In the bang to buck stake, which is what this thread is about, it could well be the winner. I just voted on what was in the poll though. It is a bit stramge how there is so few nVidia cards in the poll. I reckon op must be a big ATI fanboy-or-girl heh And why not. They have a long history of great cards. My old ATI 9800 is still being used in my sisters rig. __________________ Don't worry about money - Be a beach bum! Scuba Rocks

Aug 28, 2008, 10:01 PM	#14
\|Slackster\| DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Manchester - UK Posts: 23 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	What about the 9800GX2? Retailing for round £200 now? __________________

Aug 28, 2008, 10:35 PM	Thread Starter #16
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 10,469 Rep Power: 339 System Specs	coz mm you win this time I have Nvidia 5500fx >>>hhhhhhhaaa. But when i saw my nephew ati card it was older and better though I think nvidia is in the 2nd place now Syndicate Get your message>>>But if you have 2x 4870 it would be much better performing at a resonable price Overclocker so are you>>mmm In my google searches i found that the price range for 9800gx2 isn't that cheap

Aug 29, 2008, 12:26 AM	#17
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,268 Rep Power: 167 System Specs	depending on where you are located I have seen the 9800GX2 from EVGA available for just over $300 Canadian funds at NCIX

Aug 29, 2008, 02:11 PM	#19
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	well my vote was for the ATi 4870. I have always enjoyed ATi's product line and will upgrade soon =). I also have to agree that ATi are reliable. i still have an X700 running strong in my parents' rig which has yet to hicckup. (Also taking into account that I overclocked the crap out of it when it was new) __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

Aug 29, 2008, 02:52 PM	#20
Syndicate2083 HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Framingham, MA Posts: 228 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Nice I personally have had nothing but bad luck with any ATi purchase I've made, so I gave up on them and stuck with nVidia, havent been disappointed yet honestly. I will recommend the ATi cards where appropriate, and I don't think that anyone who has one is evil or anything hahaha, more power to your choice! -Syn __________________ -Crash the silence for the sake of memory. Intrinsic Realities, Veteran-USN.

Aug 29, 2008, 03:29 PM	Thread Starter #21
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 10,469 Rep Power: 339 System Specs	Well, I think nvidia is the same as Microsoft now just relasing new products that are not that level of competition( they are only caring about their how to be a trillionaire on some idiots budgets)

Aug 29, 2008, 04:10 PM	#22
Syndicate2083 HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Framingham, MA Posts: 228 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I wouldn't go that far really. Their cards certainly aren't sub par. Benching is still pretty competitive really. Now that ATi is starting to again too were seeing more of a price war, and I can't wait to see nVidias answer to the new front line. Sides, when theres no competition everyone gets 'lazy'. It's just the way of it, why fix what aint broke, as they say. Which is stupid, but makes sense if your competitor can't compete. /shrug -Syn __________________ -Crash the silence for the sake of memory. Intrinsic Realities, Veteran-USN.

Aug 29, 2008, 04:48 PM	Thread Starter #23
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 10,469 Rep Power: 339 System Specs	"I can't wait to see nVidias answer to the new front line" I hope so.

Aug 29, 2008, 05:30 PM	#24
swimtech HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,040 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	Was noticing, with the 4870 at $250 and the 4850 at $150, the price difference is just too much for even a 30% or so performance increase - the 4850 has the numbers for performance/value for sure - even comparing to a $100 3870 I believe. __________________ It's not so much getting your way that matters or not - what matters is how you go about getting it.

Aug 30, 2008, 09:31 AM	Thread Starter #28
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 10,469 Rep Power: 339 System Specs	yes I agree that 4870 is quite expensive compared to the little increase from the 4850 performance