What do you do when mounting your CPU heatsinks?

Judas · Sep 3, 2008, 04:04 PM

So?

Partizan · Sep 3, 2008, 04:30 PM

It's a long process, which has to be done thoroughly. Every degree counts

P.S. Do not mount when drunk. Did it once and and won't do it ever again.

mike2h · Sep 3, 2008, 04:39 PM

id take choice 3 except for the word "exhaustively". arctic clean solution makes it very easy. i just put on a powder free latex glove(disposable) drop 2 small dots at opposite corners & spread. np.

cozumel · Sep 3, 2008, 04:48 PM

I'm probably between 3 & 4. Always use my own heatsink/fan/compound and will lap when I get round to it but not usually straight away.

Voted 3

PangingJr · Sep 3, 2008, 08:07 PM

for Intel LGA775 boxed cooler and on first use = Nothing, Just use the stock preapplied Thermal paste and mount it.

for 3rd party coolers that comes with a pre applied thermal interface material and on first use = Nothing, Just use the stock preapplied Thermal paste and mount it.

Judas · Sep 3, 2008, 08:25 PM

lapping = 4th option lol... or using a razor blade and tape to map out the exact thermal paste applictions or whatever extreme you wanna take it.

i would have put more discriptions into the poll selections but kinda limited.

**Mousey** · Sep 3, 2008, 10:14 PM

lol if it's got some on i just mount it straight on.
Zalmans are another story though :P

Judas · Sep 4, 2008, 03:56 PM

i never use preapplied thermal paste...

or pad...

or whatever..

unless it's an adheasive.... which is for northbridges.

anyways..

**Mousey** · Sep 4, 2008, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

i never use preapplied thermal paste...

or pad...

or whatever..

unless it's an adheasive.... which is for northbridges.

anyways..

I fail to see the problem, saves you using some of your own paste

Just Learnin' · Sep 4, 2008, 05:44 PM

lapping

PangingJr · Sep 24, 2008, 08:28 PM

thanks Judas for your time...
i'll continue here if i have more question.

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Originally Posted by Judas

i take my time..... as i mentioned in the previous thread where i asked about people using the pre applied thermal pad or whatnot....

Time, in the world we live in right now, alot of people seem to keep digging themselves into a bigger hole and getting far to strict on time itself. Things are being rushed, the quality is failing, and frankly i don't care how good anyone is, they are pushing the envelope.

Anyways.

Yes i take my time doing the whole cpu/heatsink/mounting proceedure.

Why? Because it's pretty critical as most of everyone will already know, if you screw up at all, you could be plagued with stability/performance/heat problems if not the distruction of either the cpu or motherboard or in some rare cases, other things to top it all off.

I always remove the pre applied thermal paste/pad, depending on how it was applied it can take some time doing it carefully and thoroughly enough to give the best results. Intels stock "paste" is a snap though, very nice and easy to remove, some of the others though, where it's a PAD, tend to be quite difficult to remove sometimes, to the point were even the normal qtip and liquid remover of choice won't touch it forcing one to find a reliable, soft scrapper that won't carve the heatsink when trying to remove it.

I don't "lap" heatsinks, it's fairly unnessary nowadays. not unless you want to take it to the utmost extreme, and unless you know exactly what your doing, you can quite easily making things considerably worse.

My application of thermal paste goes on both the heatsink and the cpu..... i don't just put a tab on both and mush em together.... that doesn't work so well. I take the time to properly try to get a reasonable estimate of the part of the heatsink that'll be touching the cpu and with time, slowly spread it out across that area in the right thickness as even as possible, working it into the heatsink while doing so for potentially the best possible results. Same thing applies to the cpu, spreading it across as evenly as possible.

I use some heavy clean plastic to protect my finger from the paste, and the heatsink/cpu from my dry skin/oiles from my fingers. It can take time doing this. Depending on the size of the cpu and heatsink (the contact points) Obviously larger = more time usually.

The difference in results can be considerable, recently had a machine in with relatively to high a temps in my opinion.. averaging 65 or more degrees.... reappling my method brought it down to sub 40's

GigaWatt · Sep 25, 2008, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Partizan

P.S. Do not mount when drunk. Did it once and and won't do it ever again.

i think that varies from person to person. i'm more into electronics than building PCs, even though i've built quite a few, but once when i was drunk, i did the best soldering job on a motherboard i've ever done

. the capacitors that have the purpose of voltage stabilizers (or so i've read) next to the CPU socket, where too close to the socket, so i could't install a bigger heatsink (overclocking...

). now i know it's not a good idea to do that, but hey... i was drunk, it seemed like a good idea at the time, hahahahah

. so i did it any, unsoldered the capacitors (there where three... i think

), put some extension wires (taken from the pins of old resistiors, capacitors, etc.), and soldered the capacitors back again to the extension wires, so the capacitors where "lurking otside" of the motherboard. didn't screw up the polarity or nothig (electrolyte capacitors and polarity... have to keep an eye on that

). a perfect solder... put the rig back together, the CPU in the CPU socket, the DIMM modules, the graphic adapter, the power supply, pushed the start button, and the rig worked

.

i guess the fast that i was aware that i was drunk made me concentrate on the problem even more, so i was very very carefull at what i did, i guess it works for some people, on others, it doesn't

.

Judas · Sep 25, 2008, 04:02 PM

indeed.... people that show a complete awareness of being drunk..... tend to focus far more on the important tasks.... but some tend to keep the idea of ..wtf who cares.... attitude causing disaster.....

it varies from person to person.

GigaWatt · Sep 26, 2008, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

indeed.... people that show a complete awareness of being drunk..... tend to focus far more on the important tasks.... but some tend to keep the idea of ..wtf who cares.... attitude causing disaster.....

it varies from person to person.

off topic, but yeah, i'm also a great drunk driver, hahahahah

. really, i drive better when i'm dunk than when i'm sober... i guess it's the concentration thing again

.

Liqourice · Sep 26, 2008, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GigaWatt

off topic, but yeah, i'm also a great drunk driver, hahahahah

. really, i drive better when i'm dunk than when i'm sober... i guess it's the concentration thing again

.

That's what all drunk drivers say and then beat their chests like Tarzan.

You know what, you're all wrong. Yes, you are too.

Just felt I needed to say that. Lets go back on topic now.

GigaWatt · Sep 26, 2008, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Liqourice

That's what all drunk drivers say and then beat their chests like Tarzan.

You know what, you're all wrong. Yes, you are too.

Just felt I needed to say that. Lets go back on topic now.

first of all, sorry for the off topic discussion, but...

you can state that as your own personal opinion, not as a fact...

Zardon · Sep 26, 2008, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GigaWatt

you can state that as your own personal opinion, not as a fact...

It is fact. Alcohol slows down reaction times, and even blurs vision depending on the intake. Alcohol affects the central nervous system and slows down the information processing ability of the brain. This in turn affects your reactions, co-ordination, accuracy and balance - all the things most important for staying focused. The blood sugar your body needs for energy is produced by the liver releasing glucose into the blood stream. Alcohol reduces your body's ability to produce this sugar, so you have less energy and less endurance capacity.

So the answer? you may think you are perfectly fine, but the first time you crash or knock over a kid and possibly cause a fatality I doubt the law will agree. Would be a shame to lose a member, perhaps they will let you use a laptop in prison.

Cow_160483 · Sep 26, 2008, 09:11 AM

Hi guys am not really sure if this is the right place to ask this but it seams appropriate so here goes am thinking of buying an after market fan cooler from my local computer shop and replacing my stock cooler for my rig so i would like to know if there is any particular air cooling solution that works best with my mother board coz i read somewhere that certain coolers don't work well due to mounting problems, my motherboard is a "K9A2 platinum".
Also what thermal paste should i get??
or should i use the one that comes with the cooler??

Liqourice · Sep 26, 2008, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GigaWatt

first of all, sorry for the off topic discussion, but...

you can state that as your own personal opinion, not as a fact...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zardon

It is fact. Alcohol slows down reaction times, and even blurs vision depending on the intake. Alcohol affects the central nervous system and slows down the information processing ability of the brain. This in turn affects your reactions, co-ordination, accuracy and balance - all the things most important for staying focused. The blood sugar your body needs for energy is produced by the liver releasing glucose into the blood stream. Alcohol reduces your body's ability to produce this sugar, so you have less energy and less endurance capacity.

So the answer? you may think you are perfectly fine, but the first time you crash or knock over a kid and possibly cause a fatality I doubt the law will agree. Would be a shame to lose a member, perhaps they will let you use a laptop in prison.

That's just the thing with alcohol. It affects your judgement from the first drink. The alcohol makes people believe they are better when the fact is exactly the opposite.

There's been so many tests on this that I can say it's pure fact and not worry that I will be proven wrong.

I'm sorry for getting off topic like this but I just can't keep quiet when I see something like this. I've seen up close what alcohol can do and it's not pretty. I want to kill this myth once and for all. Now I've said what I want and I will not go off topic like this again.

PangingJr · Sep 26, 2008, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

indeed.... people that show a complete awareness of being drunk..... tend to focus far more on the important tasks.... but some tend to keep the idea of ..wtf who cares.... attitude causing disaster.....

it varies from person to person.

what kind of attitude do you usually have after you drunk?

Zardon · Sep 26, 2008, 03:17 PM

guys lets get the thread back on track, if people want to drive drunk id rather not hear about it, cause I just want to slap them. I wouldnt listen to Judas Panging he is daft as a bloody brush.

Anyway lets keep the thread on topic. feel free to talk about drinking or people being idiots in off topic however.

***Veridian3*** · Sep 26, 2008, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cow_160483

Hi guys am not really sure if this is the right place to ask this but it seams appropriate so here goes am thinking of buying an after market fan cooler from my local computer shop and replacing my stock cooler for my rig so i would like to know if there is any particular air cooling solution that works best with my mother board coz i read somewhere that certain coolers don't work well due to mounting problems, my motherboard is a "K9A2 platinum".
Also what thermal paste should i get??
or should i use the one that comes with the cooler??

Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 if you can get it...

GigaWatt · Sep 26, 2008, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cow_160483

Hi guys am not really sure if this is the right place to ask this but it seams appropriate so here goes am thinking of buying an after market fan cooler from my local computer shop and replacing my stock cooler for my rig so i would like to know if there is any particular air cooling solution that works best with my mother board coz i read somewhere that certain coolers don't work well due to mounting problems, my motherboard is a "K9A2 platinum".
Also what thermal paste should i get??
or should i use the one that comes with the cooler??

if anybody would know about thiss tuff, i think Zardon or Judas would, i saw Zardon's Skulltrail rig, trust me, they both know a lot about cooling systems, ecah in his own way

and about the drinking thing, i opened up a thread in the Off Topic section, so discuss it freely there, i think that would be the best thing to do

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/off-topi...or-skills.html

PS: sorry for the bad spelling in the title of the thread

Sep 3, 2008, 04:30 PM	#2
Partizan Fun loving criminal Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Slovenia Posts: 1,182 Rep Power: 62 System Specs	It's a long process, which has to be done thoroughly. Every degree counts P.S. Do not mount when drunk. Did it once and and won't do it ever again. __________________ Live and let live!

Sep 3, 2008, 04:39 PM	#3
mike2h DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: norcal Posts: 6,483 Rep Power: 91 System Specs	id take choice 3 except for the word "exhaustively". arctic clean solution makes it very easy. i just put on a powder free latex glove(disposable) drop 2 small dots at opposite corners & spread. np. __________________

Sep 3, 2008, 04:48 PM	#4
cozumel I'm dangerous but cute... Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Under the waves... Posts: 3,577 Rep Power: 60 System Specs	I'm probably between 3 & 4. Always use my own heatsink/fan/compound and will lap when I get round to it but not usually straight away. Voted 3 __________________ Don't worry about money - Be a beach bum! Scuba Rocks

Sep 3, 2008, 08:07 PM	#5
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	for Intel LGA775 boxed cooler and on first use = Nothing, Just use the stock preapplied Thermal paste and mount it. for 3rd party coolers that comes with a pre applied thermal interface material and on first use = Nothing, Just use the stock preapplied Thermal paste and mount it. Last edited by PangingJr; Sep 3, 2008 at 08:16 PM.

Sep 3, 2008, 10:14 PM	#7
Mousey Synth's Long Lost Bro Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Web Design Hell Posts: 7,189 Rep Power: 245 System Specs	lol if it's got some on i just mount it straight on. Zalmans are another story though :P __________________ Last edited by Mousey; Sep 4, 2008 at 12:06 AM.

Sep 4, 2008, 05:44 PM	#10
Just Learnin' HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 1,414 Rep Power: 56 System Specs	lapping

Sep 26, 2008, 09:11 AM	#18
Cow_160483 HH's only cow moooooo... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: BOTSWANA Posts: 6,817 Rep Power: 300 System Specs	Hi guys am not really sure if this is the right place to ask this but it seams appropriate so here goes am thinking of buying an after market fan cooler from my local computer shop and replacing my stock cooler for my rig so i would like to know if there is any particular air cooling solution that works best with my mother board coz i read somewhere that certain coolers don't work well due to mounting problems, my motherboard is a "K9A2 platinum". Also what thermal paste should i get?? or should i use the one that comes with the cooler?? __________________ Decode! Muhahahahah!

Sep 26, 2008, 03:17 PM	#21
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	guys lets get the thread back on track, if people want to drive drunk id rather not hear about it, cause I just want to slap them. I wouldnt listen to Judas Panging he is daft as a bloody brush. Anyway lets keep the thread on topic. feel free to talk about drinking or people being idiots in off topic however.