new mainboard, so many choices..

Neshi · Sep 12, 2008, 11:36 AM

A little more then a month ago I have send my mainboard for RMA, because my PSU killed it. (PSU send for RMA too)

Now is this particular mainboard at the end of it's life, so I can't get the same one and have to buy another one, although I got credit for the one I send RMA, I only have to pay for the pricedifference.

I always have so much trouble picking out a good mainboard, there are so many choices. I was wondering if you guys could help me make a choice.
I want a pretty futureproof board, which can do quattro-cores, and is able to do stable overclocks. As far as I know, mobo's that support DDR2 AND DDR3 are pretty rare, and I think the support for both doesn't really help with the stability. Altough it will take several years for DDR3 to take over the place of DDR2, so DDR3 support isn't really needed.
When looking at the mainboard roundup in the review section, I think my best bet would be to go with the Asus Striker II Formula.

Would you agree, or do you have an even better option?
Right now I have still a dual core, but I plan on getting a quadcore for cheap as soon the new intel processors get on the market and everybody tries to get rid of their quadcores..

BlueMak · Sep 12, 2008, 01:46 PM

The ASUS P5Q deluxe looks good to me. I don't think you should worry too much about DDR3 yet because no matter what mainboard you buy now, as far as I know, none supports the next generation of Intel's CPUs that is out soon (I don't know how soon), so if you want to buy a new system now, my guess is you might as well get a DDR2 mainboard and save some money (memory).

Unless you are going the AMD way, but I have no idea what AMD is doing with CPUs other than trying to outflank transmetta or something.

Neshi · Sep 12, 2008, 03:24 PM

yea. DDR2 is the thing I need.
It's just replacing the mainboard really, not building a new system.

I was looking at the P5Q-E too.. which would mean I wouldn't have to add almost any cash for a replacement board.
Only question is, what is the difference between the P5Q-Deluxe and the P5Q-E?
Is it worth the few pennies in difference and should I just get the deluxe?

edit:
The main difference as far as I found on the net is that the -E has 8phase power, and the -deluxe has 16phase power.. of that is all, I personally don't think that justifice the 30 euro's in price difference.

Judas · Sep 12, 2008, 03:34 PM

if you don't need raid.. the P5Q-SE looks very promising.

Neshi · Sep 12, 2008, 05:31 PM

hate to say so but raid is indeed needed...

Judas · Sep 12, 2008, 05:49 PM

ah ok

figured i'd put that out there.. because it's so much nicer building a machine with decent quality parts that aren't to expensive..... the result is a few more dollars in your pocket making it easier to pop in a newer board down the road.

Neshi · Sep 12, 2008, 07:17 PM

yea.. like I said, I have credit for the board I send for RMA, about 125 euro's.
But I figure the P5Q-E is the best choice. It costs the same, so effectively it would mean I'm exchanging the P5K-deluxe I had for the P5Q-E.

Haha, I'm here answering my own questions... I'm just so inable to make decisions when it comes to computer hardware. I like to have the best for so little money as possible, and it always feels as if there is something better out there without me knowing..

**kris23** · Sep 13, 2008, 04:44 AM

as long as you get a P45 with ICH10R

PangingJr · Sep 13, 2008, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

if you don't need raid.. the P5Q-SE looks very promising.

what is SE stands for Judas? Stable Edition or shit edition?

Neshi · Sep 13, 2008, 12:15 PM

the P5Q 'minus' Some Electronics

PangingJr · Sep 13, 2008, 01:27 PM

only the SE that comes with no Intel ICH RAID.

new mainboard, so many choices..?

what are the rest of your choices then? i mean besides the P5Q-E and P5Q Deluxe. do you like to try Gigabyte or DFI at all ?

if i stop using my P5Q Deluxe for whatever reason, i always liked to try DFI P35 but never have a chance, so i plan to have a DFI P45 DDR2 and if possible then Gigabyte P45 DDR3 (EP45T-DS3R) would be next.

Neshi · Sep 13, 2008, 03:27 PM

well.. it's like what I said in the first post.
My P5K-Deluxe died, and I've send it for RMA. Now they can't replace that particular board because it is discontinued. I received a credit of 125 euro's which they will pay me, or I can use it to get me a new board. (can't do anything without a motherboard)
I just don't know what kind of board to choose. I don't have any experience with gigabyte, MSI or any different brand then Asus. The P5Q-E would come down to 125 euro's which means I don't have to pay anything extra.

The store doesn't sell gigabyte or DFI.. In this pricerange they have very few others then Asus, only MSI and Foxconn..

But I guess I will get the P5Q-E. Reviews I read told me it was a good overclocker, it's stable and I think it will suit me fine for the next year, year-and-a-half, till the next generation (new sockets) will come out..

PangingJr · Sep 13, 2008, 03:32 PM

ok, don't let Judas or me hold you back,
get the P5Q-E (not the Pro) and i think you will like it.

Neshi · Sep 13, 2008, 06:50 PM

thanks for the help anyway.
Turns out by writing the things here in the forum, I kinda answered the questions I was having...

Sep 12, 2008, 11:36 AM	#1
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,378 Rep Power: 177 System Specs	new mainboard, so many choices.. A little more then a month ago I have send my mainboard for RMA, because my PSU killed it. (PSU send for RMA too) Now is this particular mainboard at the end of it's life, so I can't get the same one and have to buy another one, although I got credit for the one I send RMA, I only have to pay for the pricedifference. I always have so much trouble picking out a good mainboard, there are so many choices. I was wondering if you guys could help me make a choice. I want a pretty futureproof board, which can do quattro-cores, and is able to do stable overclocks. As far as I know, mobo's that support DDR2 AND DDR3 are pretty rare, and I think the support for both doesn't really help with the stability. Altough it will take several years for DDR3 to take over the place of DDR2, so DDR3 support isn't really needed. When looking at the mainboard roundup in the review section, I think my best bet would be to go with the Asus Striker II Formula. Would you agree, or do you have an even better option? Right now I have still a dual core, but I plan on getting a quadcore for cheap as soon the new intel processors get on the market and everybody tries to get rid of their quadcores.. __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's

Sep 12, 2008, 01:46 PM	#2
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,465 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	The ASUS P5Q deluxe looks good to me. I don't think you should worry too much about DDR3 yet because no matter what mainboard you buy now, as far as I know, none supports the next generation of Intel's CPUs that is out soon (I don't know how soon), so if you want to buy a new system now, my guess is you might as well get a DDR2 mainboard and save some money (memory). Unless you are going the AMD way, but I have no idea what AMD is doing with CPUs other than trying to outflank transmetta or something. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Sep 12, 2008, 03:24 PM	Thread Starter #3
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,378 Rep Power: 177 System Specs	yea. DDR2 is the thing I need. It's just replacing the mainboard really, not building a new system. I was looking at the P5Q-E too.. which would mean I wouldn't have to add almost any cash for a replacement board. Only question is, what is the difference between the P5Q-Deluxe and the P5Q-E? Is it worth the few pennies in difference and should I just get the deluxe? edit: The main difference as far as I found on the net is that the -E has 8phase power, and the -deluxe has 16phase power.. of that is all, I personally don't think that justifice the 30 euro's in price difference. __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's Last edited by Neshi; Sep 12, 2008 at 03:41 PM.

Sep 12, 2008, 05:31 PM	Thread Starter #5
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,378 Rep Power: 177 System Specs	hate to say so but raid is indeed needed... __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's Last edited by Neshi; Sep 12, 2008 at 07:13 PM.

Sep 12, 2008, 07:17 PM	Thread Starter #7
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,378 Rep Power: 177 System Specs	yea.. like I said, I have credit for the board I send for RMA, about 125 euro's. But I figure the P5Q-E is the best choice. It costs the same, so effectively it would mean I'm exchanging the P5K-deluxe I had for the P5Q-E. Haha, I'm here answering my own questions... I'm just so inable to make decisions when it comes to computer hardware. I like to have the best for so little money as possible, and it always feels as if there is something better out there without me knowing.. __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's

Sep 13, 2008, 04:44 AM	#8
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	as long as you get a P45 with ICH10R __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Sep 13, 2008, 12:15 PM	Thread Starter #10
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,378 Rep Power: 177 System Specs	the P5Q 'minus' Some Electronics __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's

Sep 13, 2008, 01:27 PM	#11
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	only the SE that comes with no Intel ICH RAID. new mainboard, so many choices..? what are the rest of your choices then? i mean besides the P5Q-E and P5Q Deluxe. do you like to try Gigabyte or DFI at all ? if i stop using my P5Q Deluxe for whatever reason, i always liked to try DFI P35 but never have a chance, so i plan to have a DFI P45 DDR2 and if possible then Gigabyte P45 DDR3 (EP45T-DS3R) would be next.

Sep 13, 2008, 03:27 PM	Thread Starter #12
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,378 Rep Power: 177 System Specs	well.. it's like what I said in the first post. My P5K-Deluxe died, and I've send it for RMA. Now they can't replace that particular board because it is discontinued. I received a credit of 125 euro's which they will pay me, or I can use it to get me a new board. (can't do anything without a motherboard) I just don't know what kind of board to choose. I don't have any experience with gigabyte, MSI or any different brand then Asus. The P5Q-E would come down to 125 euro's which means I don't have to pay anything extra. The store doesn't sell gigabyte or DFI.. In this pricerange they have very few others then Asus, only MSI and Foxconn.. But I guess I will get the P5Q-E. Reviews I read told me it was a good overclocker, it's stable and I think it will suit me fine for the next year, year-and-a-half, till the next generation (new sockets) will come out.. __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's

Sep 13, 2008, 03:32 PM	#13
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	ok, don't let Judas or me hold you back, get the P5Q-E (not the Pro) and i think you will like it.

Sep 13, 2008, 06:50 PM	Thread Starter #14
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,378 Rep Power: 177 System Specs	thanks for the help anyway. Turns out by writing the things here in the forum, I kinda answered the questions I was having... __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's