is this better than what i've got?

CDsDontBurn · Sep 26, 2008, 08:36 PM

A friend of mine gave me some hardware that he's not using anymore, but i'm wondering if it's really any better than what i currently have. To me, it doesn't really seem like it is. What are your thoughts? Am I right to think that it's not better?

The stuff in question
Gigabyte GA-K8-SLI, Intel based nForce4 SLI
Intel p4 630, socket 775
2GB 533Mhz DDR2 RAM
7600GT

My current stuff
Abit IC7-G (Intel 875 chipset)
Intel p4 3.2Ghz Prescott, socket 478
2GB DDR400 RAM
x1950pro AGP

Aside from the gfx card which is obviously better in my current machine than the 7600GT, my main question is about the CPU/memory/MoBo.

GigaWatt · Sep 26, 2008, 10:01 PM

your friends DDR2 @ 533MHz DIMMs are definitely better, what you habe are DDR1 DIMMs, about the other stuff, whell, i'm shure someone with a little bit more experience than me in mother boards and CPUs will answer you that question...

CDsDontBurn · Sep 26, 2008, 10:04 PM

the s478 system is my current system. see "system specs" for my current standing system in its entirety.

**temeteus82** · Sep 26, 2008, 10:07 PM

in terms of CPU power that S775 rig looks better than your current but the gfx card is not better ... If I were you I would stay at status quo and save money for c2d system

CDsDontBurn · Sep 26, 2008, 10:14 PM

yea, i know that's the decision i'm trying to come at here ATM.

and with the RAM, although i know it is a faster speed, at 800Mhz FSB, DDR2 will not give me a 1:1 ratio. especially when the primary difference between the 500 series and 600 series P4s is that the 600 series have 64bit support. furthermore, the 500 series P4s are just 775 versions of their 478 counterpart. so, CPU wise, it's really a 200Mhz downgrade.

i'm also thinking of taking my youngest sister's machine, and taking that Gigabyte 965 chipset board, her e4400 CPU, and her DDR2 800 and give her these components i was given

**temeteus82** · Sep 26, 2008, 10:20 PM

You are the Mr. Nice guy

CDsDontBurn · Sep 26, 2008, 10:21 PM

she hasn't used her machine in a good 4 months or so.

[hobo]eclipse · Sep 26, 2008, 10:23 PM

now thats an idea, get yerself a 4850 to go wit it and you should be screaming! as long as your PSU is worthy!

i dont think it would be worth the trouble going from one p4 single core to another.

CDsDontBurn · Sep 26, 2008, 10:25 PM

or i could just sell it all, and use that money for w/e i want

blibbax · Sep 26, 2008, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

or i could just sell it all, and use that money for w/e i want

If you can find buyers, this is a great option.

On the other hand, if you could find an agp 775 board, e4400 + x1950 pro would be pretty good.

CDsDontBurn · Sep 26, 2008, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by blibbax

If you can find buyers, this is a great option.

On the other hand, if you could find an agp 775 board, e4400 + x1950 pro would be pretty good.

i wouldn't do that though. that's truly a waste of money.

[hobo]eclipse · Sep 26, 2008, 10:54 PM

swap with her if its just sitting there! get the dual core, give it some clocks, and get a PCI express card to your liking, good ones can be had for cheap.

**kris23** · Sep 26, 2008, 10:55 PM

a few hundred dollars to a cheap system will greatly surpass your current system....

GigaWatt · Sep 27, 2008, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

i'm also thinking of taking my youngest sister's machine, and taking that Gigabyte 965 chipset board, her e4400 CPU, and her DDR2 800 and give her these components i was given

hahahahaha

, yeah, i know, i used to do that to my sister too, downgrading her rig, hahahaha

, she never notices, all she does on her machine is MSN chat, or read mail, or play card games (the default form Windows), hahahaha

. momenteraly she has a nVidia TNT 2 Model 64 Pro... hahahahaha

.

but lets get back to the topic at hand, i think it's better to stick to your old rig, save some money for a new graphic card... or just take it from your sister, hahahahahah

CDsDontBurn · Sep 27, 2008, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by [hobo]eclipse

swap with her if its just sitting there! get the dual core, give it some clocks, and get a PCI express card to your liking, good ones can be had for cheap.

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Originally Posted by kris23

a few hundred dollars to a cheap system will greatly surpass your current system....

or, i could take this whole new machine and make it my new VOIP box i use for work

.

but, that would require that i buy a new PSU though....which i don't have the money for

ugh, i want to upgrade, and my friend told me, "it's a good machine" but he didn't know any of the system specs as it was the old parts out of his friend's old machine that was taking apart to build him a new machine.

i just want to upgrade is all for as cheaply as possible!!! and free is pretty damn cheap!

i might just end up selling this stuff instead as it's not really an upgrade of anything i currently have.

or, i could have this be for another machine i can build myself for shits and giggles.

or, i can make this into ..... idk

i just want to upgrade. i'm ranting more than anything now

**kris23** · Sep 27, 2008, 01:52 AM

so the 775 P4 is free? cant beat that....

oh and wouldnt your sister get pissed that youre giving her a system thats less than half the performance of her current one?

i mean she DOES know whats in there....

[hobo]eclipse · Sep 27, 2008, 01:53 AM

dood, how can u stand it? a dual core sitting there collecting dust while u ponder about 2 single core machines. does (did) your sister even use the rig to its potential or is it a myspace box? i dunno what to do with the freebie, doorstop? make it your sisters myspace box?

CDsDontBurn · Sep 27, 2008, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kris23

so the 775 P4 is free? cant beat that....

oh and wouldnt your sister get pissed that youre giving her a system thats less than half the performance of her current one?

i mean she DOES know whats in there....

yea, it was free. he was like, "here you want this?" and neither of us not knowing what it was, i was like "sure" thinking it was going to be a semi-decent upgrade from what i have now.

well, i'd be taking this from my 10yr. old sister, not my other sister that used to post here on DH, lol.

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Originally Posted by [hobo]eclipse

dood, how can u stand it? a dual core sitting there collecting dust while u ponder about 2 single core machines. does (did) your sister even use the rig to its potential or is it a myspace box? i dunno what to do with the freebie, doorstop? make it your sisters myspace box?

this box with the dual-core is my 10yr. old sister's box. she doesn't myspace or anything. in fact, i was the last person to use the machine for work related purposes

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well, lets just say i do take my 10yr. old sister's machine and go ahead with the swap. that machine has an 8600GT 256MB card in it. How does that card compare to the 7600GT card that i got from my friend? Which of the two cards would be the better performing card? Those are my current video card options...

**kris23** · Sep 27, 2008, 02:48 AM

8600 ftw

[hobo]eclipse · Sep 27, 2008, 02:56 AM

swap systems with your sister, keep the 1950 in house, use the 8600, take the freebie and get what youcan out of it, part it out or all in one. get paid to go dual core!

LOL

what the heck you been waiting for to grab up on that dual core? no games callin your name?

CDsDontBurn · Sep 27, 2008, 03:20 AM

well, the reason why i haven't really considered swapping out my freebie parts with my sister's rig is because although yes it is a better system, it's not really what i want in a new build. and i'm not the kind of person who goes half-ways on something. for me, it's all or nothing. so, swapping components between these freebie parts and my sister's rig is more of a half-way type thing for me.

the components i want at least are:

EVGA 780i FTW or EVGA 790i FTW MoBo
q9450
4GB DDR2 or 2GB DDR3 (depending on which board i get of course)
GTX 260 core 216

i might just keep everything and use it as tester components in the end...

GigaWatt · Sep 27, 2008, 03:43 AM

i would say... just swap everything you got with your sisiters rig, keep the freebie parts as a backup (if something burns ou, or for some kind of a replacemnet, or whatever, maby get a new graphic card in exchange for all the prats), and put your rigs parts in her case... she wount notice a thing, trust me, i mean, she's 10... what could she posibly know about PCs...

CDsDontBurn · Sep 27, 2008, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GigaWatt

she wount notice a thing, trust me, i mean, she's 10... what could she posibly know about PCs...

she knows enough that if she were to start playing black and white 2 again, that her computer "isn't working right" anymore.

**kris23** · Sep 27, 2008, 04:52 AM

maybe your current rig with 1950 is better for a 10 yr old?

CDsDontBurn · Sep 27, 2008, 07:28 AM

it artifacts when under load. i can't run ATI tool for more than 10min. before it starts to artifact. when playing games, Dark Messiah was the last game i played, it was giving yellow dots and minor tears sporadically throughout the screen. When i was playing Prey, the same things happened.

GigaWatt · Sep 27, 2008, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

she knows enough that if she were to start playing black and white 2 again, that her computer "isn't working right" anymore.

whell, if that happends, then you could tell her that the rig is old and she needs to get a new one, hahahahaha

, that way you can have the newer parts from her rig (transfer them again), and give her back the parts you took, it's a sweet deal... hahahaha

Sep 26, 2008, 08:36 PM	#1
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	is this better than what i've got? A friend of mine gave me some hardware that he's not using anymore, but i'm wondering if it's really any better than what i currently have. To me, it doesn't really seem like it is. What are your thoughts? Am I right to think that it's not better? The stuff in question Gigabyte GA-K8-SLI, Intel based nForce4 SLI Intel p4 630, socket 775 2GB 533Mhz DDR2 RAM 7600GT My current stuff Abit IC7-G (Intel 875 chipset) Intel p4 3.2Ghz Prescott, socket 478 2GB DDR400 RAM x1950pro AGP Aside from the gfx card which is obviously better in my current machine than the 7600GT, my main question is about the CPU/memory/MoBo. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Sep 26, 2008, 10:01 PM	#2
GigaWatt Now In Color :D Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Macedonia, Skopje Posts: 2,116 Rep Power: 81 System Specs	your friends DDR2 @ 533MHz DIMMs are definitely better, what you habe are DDR1 DIMMs, about the other stuff, whell, i'm shure someone with a little bit more experience than me in mother boards and CPUs will answer you that question... __________________ It's not schisophrenia... it's just a voice in my head...

Sep 26, 2008, 10:04 PM	Thread Starter #3
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	the s478 system is my current system. see "system specs" for my current standing system in its entirety. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Sep 26, 2008, 10:14 PM	Thread Starter #5
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	yea, i know that's the decision i'm trying to come at here ATM. and with the RAM, although i know it is a faster speed, at 800Mhz FSB, DDR2 will not give me a 1:1 ratio. especially when the primary difference between the 500 series and 600 series P4s is that the 600 series have 64bit support. furthermore, the 500 series P4s are just 775 versions of their 478 counterpart. so, CPU wise, it's really a 200Mhz downgrade. i'm also thinking of taking my youngest sister's machine, and taking that Gigabyte 965 chipset board, her e4400 CPU, and her DDR2 800 and give her these components i was given __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Sep 26, 2008, 10:21 PM	Thread Starter #7
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	she hasn't used her machine in a good 4 months or so. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Sep 26, 2008, 10:23 PM	#8
[hobo]eclipse ...just bummin 'round Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,907 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	now thats an idea, get yerself a 4850 to go wit it and you should be screaming! as long as your PSU is worthy! i dont think it would be worth the trouble going from one p4 single core to another.

Sep 26, 2008, 10:25 PM	Thread Starter #9
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	or i could just sell it all, and use that money for w/e i want __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Sep 26, 2008, 10:54 PM	#12
[hobo]eclipse ...just bummin 'round Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,907 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	swap with her if its just sitting there! get the dual core, give it some clocks, and get a PCI express card to your liking, good ones can be had for cheap.

Sep 26, 2008, 10:55 PM	#13
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	a few hundred dollars to a cheap system will greatly surpass your current system.... __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Sep 27, 2008, 01:52 AM	#16
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	so the 775 P4 is free? cant beat that.... oh and wouldnt your sister get pissed that youre giving her a system thats less than half the performance of her current one? i mean she DOES know whats in there.... __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Sep 27, 2008, 01:53 AM	#17
[hobo]eclipse ...just bummin 'round Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,907 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	dood, how can u stand it? a dual core sitting there collecting dust while u ponder about 2 single core machines. does (did) your sister even use the rig to its potential or is it a myspace box? i dunno what to do with the freebie, doorstop? make it your sisters myspace box?

Sep 27, 2008, 02:48 AM	#19
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	8600 ftw __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Sep 27, 2008, 02:56 AM	#20
[hobo]eclipse ...just bummin 'round Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,907 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	swap systems with your sister, keep the 1950 in house, use the 8600, take the freebie and get what youcan out of it, part it out or all in one. get paid to go dual core! LOL what the heck you been waiting for to grab up on that dual core? no games callin your name?

Sep 27, 2008, 03:20 AM	Thread Starter #21
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	well, the reason why i haven't really considered swapping out my freebie parts with my sister's rig is because although yes it is a better system, it's not really what i want in a new build. and i'm not the kind of person who goes half-ways on something. for me, it's all or nothing. so, swapping components between these freebie parts and my sister's rig is more of a half-way type thing for me. the components i want at least are: EVGA 780i FTW or EVGA 790i FTW MoBo q9450 4GB DDR2 or 2GB DDR3 (depending on which board i get of course) GTX 260 core 216 i might just keep everything and use it as tester components in the end... __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Sep 27, 2008, 03:43 AM	#22
GigaWatt Now In Color :D Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Macedonia, Skopje Posts: 2,116 Rep Power: 81 System Specs	i would say... just swap everything you got with your sisiters rig, keep the freebie parts as a backup (if something burns ou, or for some kind of a replacemnet, or whatever, maby get a new graphic card in exchange for all the prats), and put your rigs parts in her case... she wount notice a thing, trust me, i mean, she's 10... what could she posibly know about PCs... __________________ It's not schisophrenia... it's just a voice in my head...

Sep 27, 2008, 04:52 AM	#24
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	maybe your current rig with 1950 is better for a 10 yr old? __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Sep 27, 2008, 07:28 AM	Thread Starter #25
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	it artifacts when under load. i can't run ATI tool for more than 10min. before it starts to artifact. when playing games, Dark Messiah was the last game i played, it was giving yellow dots and minor tears sporadically throughout the screen. When i was playing Prey, the same things happened. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later