Improve or buy new PC? [56k Warning!]

WgizmO · Oct 8, 2008, 04:16 PM

Hi,

This is my pc:

Motherboard: Asus M2N4-SLI
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5600+
Memory: GeIL CL4-4-4DDR2-800 x4
GPU: BFG GeForce 8800 GTX
HDD: MAXTOR S TM3320820AS SCSI Disk Device
DVD: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182M ATA Device
OS: Windows Vista 64 Ultimate

How to improve this or how to incress speed of my pc? Buy another hdd and put them in raid? Buy new GTX and put in SLI? Invest in woter cooling and overlock? What do you think guys? Invest less and smart to set all components in good way or sell all and buy new?

This is what i did so far to improve a litle bit my temperature in case and gpu:

Case:

GPU:

Before:

After:

I replaiced main Power unit to just if i will go for SLI 8800gtx

Before:

New one:

After:

Looking forward to incress my pc. I dont wanna sell it. What do you think guys? How to improve with some money invest? Watercooling and overlokc some gpu/cpu? CHange motherboard and cpu? Buy another hdd and put them in raid? Please write down guys what do you think about it.

Liqourice · Oct 8, 2008, 04:57 PM

You don't need watercooling to overclock. You need a new cpu cooler that's better than the stock one. Personally I have this one:

Newegg.com - ZALMAN CNPS 9700 NT 110mm 2 Ball Ultra Quiet CPU Cooler - CPU Fans & Heatsinks

and I'm very happy with it, even if it's not the best one out there.

That's a good start. Those AMD's aren't very good overclocking cpu's but you can push it at least a little bit.

OldBuzzard · Oct 8, 2008, 10:19 PM

With your current system, going with another 8800 in SLI would be counter-productive. That 5600+ most likely isn't fast enough to get the full benefit of the single 8800 you have now.

So, either a better HSF, and OC the 5600+, or replace it with something faster. According the the ASUS web site, the fastest CPU that MB will support is the 6400+.

**kris23** · Oct 8, 2008, 10:30 PM

i say, buy a new motherboard with a Phenom CPU tri or Quad are decent performers

**Mousey** · Oct 8, 2008, 11:41 PM

Eitheir that or go intel, then watercooling for OC'ing could be more worth while

**kris23** · Oct 8, 2008, 11:47 PM

thats hardly cost effective.... nor smart

CDsDontBurn · Oct 9, 2008, 01:53 AM

i say you get the 6400+ CPU and the CPU cooler that was suggested earlier and you should be good. and then, OC everything you have now for better performance

WgizmO · Oct 14, 2008, 04:55 PM

Thx all for help and i would like to show you my new black casse:

All cost me 303 pounds with next day delivery. I think its not bad price...

Oki lets look how it wos looking before:

Now its what i bought:

Asus P5Q Deluxe Intel P45 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard

Intel Core 2 Quad Pro Q6600 "Energy Efficient SLACR 95W Edition" 2.40GHz (1066FSB) - OEM

Arctic Cooling Freezer XTREME CPU Cooler (Socket LGA775AM2+AM2939)

Lets get to work:

next step wos for me difficul and i wos worry it will not fit:

a litle bit of hope and:

and one more pix:

And now finall look from inside after putting all inside:

Thanks to all who wos helping me to make it happen. What iam looking after now its good software whihc i can check or benchmark that

. In future iam looking forward to overlock cpu/ram/gpu.

[hobo]eclipse · Oct 14, 2008, 05:08 PM

well that should definatly speed things up!

**Mousey** · Oct 14, 2008, 05:51 PM

Definately, have fun clocking the nuts off it

***Veridian3*** · Oct 14, 2008, 06:05 PM

Nice build. that cpu/mobo combination should last you quite a while... and maybe next generation is the time to upgrade the GFX.

swimtech · Oct 14, 2008, 07:36 PM

Wow, great upgrades!

Great thread too...

PangingJr · Oct 14, 2008, 07:50 PM

ah glad to see you post the pic, WgizmO. i like the CPU cooler, so now i'm sure that it'll fit P5Q-D.

WgizmO · Oct 14, 2008, 09:04 PM

I have problem with temperature. Everest ultimate edition showing me on the cores around 40C on eahc core and total cpu is 22C on pulpit mode when cpu usage is 2% and this asus AI SUITE sometimes showing me 109C on cpu wtf? What software is the best to show temperature? ANd how to controll this casse fans speed? This Asus software looks little crap. Dont read rpm from casse fans only cpu and power one LOL. So far i dont have any problems. Its look like this asus software is not to good. Looking for something what can controll all my fans to dont use them on max speed all the time. Or meaby i need to do some difrent setup in this asus software?

RoyBatty · Oct 14, 2008, 09:15 PM

Your temps (the Everest ones) look fine to me. You can try Real Temp or Core Temp for temps monitoring, but it should show same temps as Everest. For fan control I use the Q-Fan function of the motherboard.

OmegaRED · Oct 14, 2008, 09:20 PM

That's the wisest upgrade path you could have chosen. Your cpu would have held that 8800GTX back and now you'll be able to get the most out of your system until a GPU upgrade (IMO you're better off with newer GPU than SLI 8800's).

On top of all that it looks really nice

WgizmO · Oct 14, 2008, 10:21 PM

Which one is real temp?

CDsDontBurn · Oct 14, 2008, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmegaRED

That's the wisest upgrade path you could have chosen. Your cpu would have held that 8800GTX back and now you'll be able to get the most out of your system until a GPU upgrade (IMO you're better off with newer GPU than SLI 8800's).

On top of all that it looks really nice

to add to what Omega just said here, you have an Intel p45 board. this means that you will NOT be able to run SLI on that board. only ATI x-fire is supported on this board.

**kris23** · Oct 15, 2008, 12:08 AM

physX

RoyBatty · Oct 15, 2008, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WgizmO

Which one is real temp?

Certainly not the AI Suite temps. The other programs show the right temps, just the Real Temp seems to be configured for a 5 degrees lower Tjmx value. As far as I know Intel didn't disclose the exact Tjmax vaules for Q6600, but any of the three programs shouldn't be far from truth

Oct 8, 2008, 04:16 PM	#1
WgizmO DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Improve or buy new PC? [56k Warning!] Hi, This is my pc: Motherboard: Asus M2N4-SLI CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5600+ Memory: GeIL CL4-4-4DDR2-800 x4 GPU: BFG GeForce 8800 GTX HDD: MAXTOR S TM3320820AS SCSI Disk Device DVD: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182M ATA Device OS: Windows Vista 64 Ultimate How to improve this or how to incress speed of my pc? Buy another hdd and put them in raid? Buy new GTX and put in SLI? Invest in woter cooling and overlock? What do you think guys? Invest less and smart to set all components in good way or sell all and buy new? This is what i did so far to improve a litle bit my temperature in case and gpu: Case: GPU: Before: After: I replaiced main Power unit to just if i will go for SLI 8800gtx Before: New one: After: Looking forward to incress my pc. I dont wanna sell it. What do you think guys? How to improve with some money invest? Watercooling and overlokc some gpu/cpu? CHange motherboard and cpu? Buy another hdd and put them in raid? Please write down guys what do you think about it.

Oct 8, 2008, 04:57 PM	#2
Liqourice HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Stockholm Posts: 1,702 Rep Power: 98 System Specs	Re: Improve or buy new PC? [56k Warning!] You don't need watercooling to overclock. You need a new cpu cooler that's better than the stock one. Personally I have this one: Newegg.com - ZALMAN CNPS 9700 NT 110mm 2 Ball Ultra Quiet CPU Cooler - CPU Fans & Heatsinks and I'm very happy with it, even if it's not the best one out there. That's a good start. Those AMD's aren't very good overclocking cpu's but you can push it at least a little bit.

Oct 8, 2008, 10:19 PM	#3
OldBuzzard DH's oldest Geek Join Date: May 2003 Location: Oberlin, OH Posts: 2,783 Rep Power: 145 System Specs	Re: Improve or buy new PC? [56k Warning!] With your current system, going with another 8800 in SLI would be counter-productive. That 5600+ most likely isn't fast enough to get the full benefit of the single 8800 you have now. So, either a better HSF, and OC the 5600+, or replace it with something faster. According the the ASUS web site, the fastest CPU that MB will support is the 6400+. __________________ When looking for a reason as to why things go wrong, never rule out sheer STUPIDITY

Oct 8, 2008, 10:30 PM	#4
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Re: Improve or buy new PC? [56k Warning!] i say, buy a new motherboard with a Phenom CPU tri or Quad are decent performers __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Oct 8, 2008, 11:41 PM	#5
Mousey Synth's Long Lost Bro Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Web Design Hell Posts: 7,189 Rep Power: 245 System Specs	Re: Improve or buy new PC? [56k Warning!] Eitheir that or go intel, then watercooling for OC'ing could be more worth while __________________

Oct 8, 2008, 11:47 PM	#6
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Re: Improve or buy new PC? [56k Warning!] thats hardly cost effective.... nor smart __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Oct 9, 2008, 01:53 AM	#7
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	Re: Improve or buy new PC? [56k Warning!] i say you get the 6400+ CPU and the CPU cooler that was suggested earlier and you should be good. and then, OC everything you have now for better performance __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Oct 14, 2008, 04:55 PM	Thread Starter #8
WgizmO DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Re: Improve or buy new PC? [56k Warning!] Thx all for help and i would like to show you my new black casse: All cost me 303 pounds with next day delivery. I think its not bad price... Oki lets look how it wos looking before: Now its what i bought: Asus P5Q Deluxe Intel P45 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard Intel Core 2 Quad Pro Q6600 "Energy Efficient SLACR 95W Edition" 2.40GHz (1066FSB) - OEM Arctic Cooling Freezer XTREME CPU Cooler (Socket LGA775AM2+AM2939) Lets get to work: next step wos for me difficul and i wos worry it will not fit: a litle bit of hope and: and one more pix: And now finall look from inside after putting all inside: Thanks to all who wos helping me to make it happen. What iam looking after now its good software whihc i can check or benchmark that . In future iam looking forward to overlock cpu/ram/gpu.

Oct 14, 2008, 05:08 PM	#9
[hobo]eclipse ...just bummin 'round Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,907 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	Re: Improve or buy new PC? [56k Warning!] well that should definatly speed things up!

Oct 14, 2008, 05:51 PM	#10
Mousey Synth's Long Lost Bro Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Web Design Hell Posts: 7,189 Rep Power: 245 System Specs	Re: Improve or buy new PC? [56k Warning!] Definately, have fun clocking the nuts off it __________________

Oct 14, 2008, 06:05 PM	#11
*Veridian3* Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cloaked Posts: 5,027 Rep Power: 181	Re: Improve or buy new PC? [56k Warning!] Nice build. that cpu/mobo combination should last you quite a while... and maybe next generation is the time to upgrade the GFX.

Oct 14, 2008, 07:36 PM	#12
swimtech HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,040 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	Re: Improve or buy new PC? [56k Warning!] Wow, great upgrades! Great thread too... __________________ It's not so much getting your way that matters or not - what matters is how you go about getting it.

Oct 14, 2008, 07:50 PM	#13
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	Re: Improve or buy new PC? [56k Warning!] ah glad to see you post the pic, WgizmO. i like the CPU cooler, so now i'm sure that it'll fit P5Q-D.

Oct 14, 2008, 09:04 PM	Thread Starter #14
WgizmO DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Re: Improve or buy new PC? [56k Warning!] I have problem with temperature. Everest ultimate edition showing me on the cores around 40C on eahc core and total cpu is 22C on pulpit mode when cpu usage is 2% and this asus AI SUITE sometimes showing me 109C on cpu wtf? What software is the best to show temperature? ANd how to controll this casse fans speed? This Asus software looks little crap. Dont read rpm from casse fans only cpu and power one LOL. So far i dont have any problems. Its look like this asus software is not to good. Looking for something what can controll all my fans to dont use them on max speed all the time. Or meaby i need to do some difrent setup in this asus software?

Oct 14, 2008, 09:15 PM	#15
RoyBatty HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 1,941 Rep Power: 122 System Specs	Re: Improve or buy new PC? [56k Warning!] Your temps (the Everest ones) look fine to me. You can try Real Temp or Core Temp for temps monitoring, but it should show same temps as Everest. For fan control I use the Q-Fan function of the motherboard.

Oct 14, 2008, 09:20 PM	#16
OmegaRED Relapsed Gamer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa , Canada Posts: 5,688 Rep Power: 173 System Specs	Re: Improve or buy new PC? [56k Warning!] That's the wisest upgrade path you could have chosen. Your cpu would have held that 8800GTX back and now you'll be able to get the most out of your system until a GPU upgrade (IMO you're better off with newer GPU than SLI 8800's). On top of all that it looks really nice __________________ E Penis Specs: <------------- See System Specs

Oct 14, 2008, 10:21 PM	Thread Starter #17
WgizmO DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Re: Improve or buy new PC? [56k Warning!] Which one is real temp?

Oct 15, 2008, 12:08 AM	#19
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Re: Improve or buy new PC? [56k Warning!] physX __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!