gigabyte screwing their customers?

LukeK · Jan 6, 2009, 05:15 PM

You guys seen this? im well pissed off.

techPowerUp! News :: Gigabyte Has a Crippled VGA Slot: MSI

Judas · Jan 6, 2009, 05:21 PM

those boards are extremely cheap from my supplier.... i'd never get them.. they aren't consider top end boards to begin with....

Even gigabyte states this on thier website about those boards..... and by looking at the price, it's quite apparent that they are trying to keep the manufactureing costs as low as possible...

This is a prime example of why i don't get the cheap parts anyways.

But the way they initially word it is that it affects ALL gigabyte boards which is an absalute lie...

I'm not pissed off at all, considering that you get what your pay for 80% of the time.

Alex · Jan 6, 2009, 06:23 PM

cost cutting exercise IMO, but i can't believe they are being so stupid in presenting this information to the public.

I remember when gigabyte were a classy organisation. everything they touch recently seems to turn to sh1t.

Erroneus · Jan 6, 2009, 06:30 PM

Gigabyte has made some bad choises lately and I haven't been that impressed with my x48-ds4, most of all because I don't have any option to turn of usb / ps2 power when computer is turned off and the lack of bios updates has been disappointing.

Judas · Jan 6, 2009, 07:04 PM

i honestly can't complain really about any of the boards i get from gigabyte.... far better then abit or biostar or msi for that matter.

[hobo]eclipse · Jan 6, 2009, 08:55 PM

o cmon n get off the high horse, look at what u buy. who would buy a mATX board with onboard graphics and then want to plop a fat ass GPU in there, get real.

wtf is MSI saying in that slide anyway, wtf is "at fake x4 speed"
sounds like a shitty translation to me.

nothing misleading here on the egg
furthermore, what color are those slots?

no big deal the gigabyte p45 boards are some of the highest clocking DRR2 mobos out there.

no big deal that this is a "below average -average" overclock on a board i payed $90 for on sale and is barley over $100 now. (early C0 wolfdale holding it back)

i feel i want to say more, so i'll leave with an opinion,

this is some dumb shit!

Judas · Jan 6, 2009, 09:36 PM

lol love your animated sig there....

DJ BIG T · Jan 6, 2009, 10:42 PM

their not hiding that its 4x so i don't see how their ripping people off...

mkk · Jan 6, 2009, 11:01 PM

Perhaps MSI haven't been getting enough love from the do-it-yourself crowd lately.

Mac Daddy · Jan 6, 2009, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [hobo]eclipse

o cmon n get off the high horse, look at what u buy. who would buy a mATX board with onboard graphics and then want to plop a fat ass GPU in there, get real.

wtf is MSI saying in that slide anyway, wtf is "at fake x4 speed"
sounds like a shitty translation to me.

nothing misleading here on the egg
furthermore, what color are those slots?

no big deal the gigabyte p45 boards are some of the highest clocking DRR2 mobos out there.

no big deal that this is a "below average -average" overclock on a board i payed $90 for on sale and is barley over $100 now. (early C0 wolfdale holding it back)

i feel i want to say more, so i'll leave with an opinion,

this is some dumb shit!

This is the best damn post I have read this year !!

You know what you buy this is a load of Cr%$

[hobo]eclipse · Jan 6, 2009, 11:58 PM

have no fret gigahaters! mac daddy has planty of year left to find a much sweeter post.

read this lil tidbit of sense from the ranting below the article, seems gigabyte actually provides more features than the others. the ability to use a discrete card and the onboard at the same time....

Quote:

there's logical explanation for these...

if you insert a card (graphics or not) in the PCIe x16 slot (GEN2 x16), then the onboard graphics is disabled automatically.... this is the chipset's (G41/43/45) limitation...

GIGABYTE board does not suffer from this limitation because the PCIe x16 (electrically x4) is not attached to northbridge (G41/43/45)... it's attached to soughtbridge (ICH7/10(R))... and that's why it has "only" x4 bandwith...

check out GA-EG45M-DS2H block diagram for more info...

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/729...iagrambyj4.png

these boards are for HTPC/office use... so haveing no full x16 slot is no real issue...

edit:
i would also like to point out that modern AMD (ATI) / NVIDIA chipsets does not suffer from such limitations... so you can plug-in full x16 discrete VGA and have you're igp working alongside it, providing additional display support or hybrid crossfire/sli graphics...

Mac Daddy · Jan 7, 2009, 12:41 AM

I research what I buy and spent near 300 bucks for this Gigabyte mobo so I know what I am buying. On the mobos mentioned that MSI thought Gigabyte were screwing people on did the purchasers not read reviews or google for complete specs?

Judas · Jan 7, 2009, 03:37 PM

precisely my question as well...

i don't know who in thier right mind would build a low to midrange, midrange, midrange to highend or highend machine using one of those boards.... it's like trying to drop a mo-ped engine in a viper and expecting it all to work out great.

IvanV · Jan 7, 2009, 04:46 PM

This is just pathetic from MSI. They have some nice motherboards and they should be happy with that. Gigabyte makes decently priced boards of very good quality. The boards in question are rock bottom of their entire offer and some corners have been cut, but as far as I know (and MSI isn't claiming otherwise either) they work as advertised - the slot bandwidth limitation is documented.

This is kind of like buying a bottom of the line CPU and complaining that it has a low multiplier which results in lower clock speed than what you'd get on other, at first sight identical CPUs from the same series. If a computer part is dirt cheap, it's either going to be a total mess or a little slow. Gigabyte chose the latter and acknowledged the limitations of their product and it all looks fair to me.

I'd rather buy that for a low end build than a 945 board that claims quad core compatibility, support for insane memory speeds and all other latest stuff because you can't tell what will really work on it and what won't.

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[hobo]eclipse ...just bummin 'round Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,907 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	Re: gigabyte screwing their customers? o cmon n get off the high horse, look at what u buy. who would buy a mATX board with onboard graphics and then want to plop a fat ass GPU in there, get real. wtf is MSI saying in that slide anyway, wtf is "at fake x4 speed" sounds like a shitty translation to me. nothing misleading here on the egg furthermore, what color are those slots? no big deal the gigabyte p45 boards are some of the highest clocking DRR2 mobos out there. no big deal that this is a "below average -average" overclock on a board i payed $90 for on sale and is barley over $100 now. (early C0 wolfdale holding it back) i feel i want to say more, so i'll leave with an opinion, this is some dumb shit!

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IvanV HH Assassin Guild Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,914 Rep Power: 333 System Specs	Re: gigabyte screwing their customers? This is just pathetic from MSI. They have some nice motherboards and they should be happy with that. Gigabyte makes decently priced boards of very good quality. The boards in question are rock bottom of their entire offer and some corners have been cut, but as far as I know (and MSI isn't claiming otherwise either) they work as advertised - the slot bandwidth limitation is documented. This is kind of like buying a bottom of the line CPU and complaining that it has a low multiplier which results in lower clock speed than what you'd get on other, at first sight identical CPUs from the same series. If a computer part is dirt cheap, it's either going to be a total mess or a little slow. Gigabyte chose the latter and acknowledged the limitations of their product and it all looks fair to me. I'd rather buy that for a low end build than a 945 board that claims quad core compatibility, support for insane memory speeds and all other latest stuff because you can't tell what will really work on it and what won't. __________________ If anyone has Portal 2 and hasn't played the co-op and wants to do me a favour, let me know (PM me or whatever). Last edited by IvanV; Jan 7, 2009 at 04:57 PM.