What CPU Do You Use?

h0mer`- · Jun 8, 2003, 04:34 PM

I tested AMD and Intel machines and intel really is the best choose.

Most of you guys never got an Intel System, thats why they vote AMD!
Sure they are even as fast as an equivalent intel system. Speed isn't the main reason to buy a CPU. Stability and reliability are more important to me.

- P4 2.54 MHz
- Asus P4T533
- 512 MB Rambus 32bit
- Radeon 9700pro
- 160 Gig Raid
- 22" iiyama CRT
- 3DMark 15231

My friends all have equivalent AMD systems and working on this machines is frustrating.

At this time i would never buy a AMD CPU cause Intel produces better ones. Price doesn't matter to me.

So, all you AMD friends...just tell us the truth, all the reaons for you to buy an AMD are about pricing...nothing else.

starboy · Jun 8, 2003, 04:36 PM

I wish i can go for intel side. however I cant afford it, just go for AMD. Earn more and get more upgrade

Y2Stu · Jun 8, 2003, 04:41 PM

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inteks · Jun 8, 2003, 04:48 PM

i use both intel & amd over the years and i must say

[SIZE=x-large]INTEL IS the most STABLE Plattform !!![/SIZE]

p4 2.4b 533 @3.06Ghz
768MB DRR 333
I845PE
Ti4200
Audigy

Y2Stu · Jun 8, 2003, 04:59 PM

i have seen most of my mates have amd problems then my mates having intel problems

JAGGEDUK · Jun 8, 2003, 05:00 PM

wtf you on about more stable intel chips.

I have not once had a crash or stability problems using an amd chip and have used erm for what seems like years now.

I take it you mean intel are more stable for over clocking otherwise i consider what you have said to be bs.

Highwood · Jun 8, 2003, 05:11 PM

Amd, more bang for the buck

Kgentatszu] · Jun 8, 2003, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by h0mer`-
I tested AMD and Intel machines and intel really is the best choose.

Most of you guys never got an Intel System, thats why they vote AMD!
Sure they are even as fast as an equivalent intel system. Speed isn't the main reason to buy a CPU. Stability and reliability are more important to me.

- P4 2.54 MHz
- Asus P4T533
- 512 MB Rambus 32bit
- Radeon 9700pro
- 160 Gig Raid
- 22" iiyama CRT
- 3DMark 15231

My friends all have equivalent AMD systems and working on this machines is frustrating.

At this time i would never buy a AMD CPU cause Intel produces better ones. Price doesn't matter to me.

So, all you AMD friends...just tell us the truth, all the reaons for you to buy an AMD are about pricing...nothing else.

no, all these long years, i had been using intel and its fine, price doesnt really matter to me, all i want is performance...........and that's where AMD comes in, they are as stable as intel, cheaper, faster, and most important of all better on games, though they produce more heat......(their only downside, and that's why i chose intel, cause its very heaty here in..)

Necrosis · Jun 8, 2003, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by h0mer`-
I tested AMD and Intel machines and intel really is the best choose.

Most of you guys never got an Intel System, thats why they vote AMD!
Sure they are even as fast as an equivalent intel system. Speed isn't the main reason to buy a CPU. Stability and reliability are more important to me.

- P4 2.54 MHz
- Asus P4T533
- 512 MB Rambus 32bit
- Radeon 9700pro
- 160 Gig Raid
- 22" iiyama CRT
- 3DMark 15231

My friends all have equivalent AMD systems and working on this machines is frustrating.

At this time i would never buy a AMD CPU cause Intel produces better ones. Price doesn't matter to me.

So, all you AMD friends...just tell us the truth, all the reaons for you to buy an AMD are about pricing...nothing else.

I voted AMD because that is what I use right now. However, you say I've never had an Intel system. Well you are wrong. I had a 2.26GHz Northwood w/ a PS533 and yes it was a stable and fast system but lacked the extra humph of my 1800 which is pretty sad. Now I'm using what I have listed in my specs and that P4 couldn't even touch it. Besides I was unhappy about having to upgrade my motherboard every 3 months to have the lasted processor.

BWX · Jun 8, 2003, 05:24 PM

Intel as a company does not deserve my business. That's the way I see it. All this talk about Intel being more stable- give me some proof. I'm sure the high end CPU's are fine and dandy- But Intel's marketing scheme is borderline illegal. They pretty much just outright lie to people. The Celeron is a joke and a rip off- and they know it- Intel is ROBBING many unsuspecting people with their "super fast 2ghz Celeron" as they are advertised.... What a farce.

At least AMD is working towards better value for everyone, not trying to rip-off little old ladies that don't know any better all around the world. And anyone else who doesn't spend all day reading about CPU's. I have no respect for that kind of deceit.

Necrosis · Jun 8, 2003, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JAGGEDUK
wtf you on about more stable intel chips.

I have not once had a crash or stability problems using an amd chip and have used erm for what seems like years now.

I take it you mean intel are more stable for over clocking otherwise i consider what you have said to be bs.

Don't worry about it man..these people are remembering the days of the K6's. It's the old smoke and mirror arguement for Intel. If a system is built properly w/ the correct cooling AMD can be just as stable or stabler than Intel.

Falstaff · Jun 8, 2003, 05:41 PM

but AMD is the economical champion of overclocking and with Moore's Law every 18 months I have to upgrade right, ha ha ha......AMD will be my next machine...

sizetwo · Jun 8, 2003, 05:44 PM

although I would like to support the underdog, stability is the key factor to my work and not saving a few dollars. Consequently I use a P4 2.4 GHz.

To all AMD'ers out there, keep it up, and lets hope it will be a _serious_ contender to Intel someday.

Kgentatszu] · Jun 8, 2003, 05:54 PM

your first post!!! welcome Sizetwo to DH, hope you enjoy yourself here

JavaFox · Jun 8, 2003, 05:59 PM

Haha, this thread is reminiscent of my Driverheaven infancy... when I posted almost exclusively in the FlameZone. There was some really fine Intel v. AMD debate in there -- if you guys are interested, you can find it here. It is in the FlameZone so bear that in mind (I am really not as mean as I seem in there!), but it is actually one of DH's largest threads, a fact that I am pretty proud of.

Anyway. The various comments regarding AMD's perceived instability are not new, but they are unfounded. An AMD rig, built well with quality parts, will be no more unstable than any given Intel rig would be. KT266A is my personal favorite, because I've run 3D rendering apps in excess of 48 hours straight on such a board, without a single hiccup. 48 hours of 100% CPU utilization. That's nothing to sneeze it. Fact is, AMD rigs are not unstable. That is just an outdated notion based on past experience. It isn't characteristic of today's processors.

One of AMD's main strengths is consistency. They stick with similar sockets longer. This, like Necrosis mentioned earlier, means you have to buy fewer motherboards to upgrade your CPU.

K7 -> Thunderbird -> Thunderbird-C -> Palomino -> Thoroughbred -> Barton
Slot A -> Socket A (100FSB) -> Socket A (266FSB) -> Socket A (333FSB)

Katmai -> Coppermine -> Willamette -> Northwood -> Northwood-B -> Northwood-C
Slot 1 -> Socket 370 -> Socket 423 -> S478 (100FSB) -> S478 (133FSB) -> S478 (200FSB)

For AMD, you would have had to make four motherboard changes for SIX processor upgrades. But with Intel, you would have had to change your motherboard six times to swap out your processor six times. And that's ignoring FC-PGA2.

Never mind the cash -- swapping out motherboards is a pain! :P

fornicatarachnid · Jun 8, 2003, 06:11 PM

LMAO Javafox ! I was just thinking the same thing as I read this thread. Nice idea !

Kgentatszu] · Jun 8, 2003, 06:17 PM

true enough, so that makes AMD one of the most sucessful processor in the world, am i right??

Y2Stu · Jun 8, 2003, 06:44 PM

ok then from what your saying from that previous post Intel is for rich people and amd is for people who won't pay for quality!

*Wooo im counted as a Rich person, Looks at Wallet, nah!*

Kgentatszu] · Jun 8, 2003, 06:48 PM

?? who said that??

Y2Stu · Jun 8, 2003, 06:53 PM

its the last post on page 3!

Kgentatszu] · Jun 8, 2003, 07:12 PM

he's talking 'bout swapping mobos......and that using intels will require one to change mobo more often compared to an AMD user.......by the way, says who AMD has no quality??

**MIG-31** · Jun 8, 2003, 07:14 PM

my current cpu is p4 2.5gig which i find for my needs is pretty good.but i would find it hard to compare to my previous cpu which was a 1.4 athalon!

Y2Stu · Jun 8, 2003, 07:15 PM

me

[SIZE=xx-large]AMD have no quailty[/SIZE]

*i know im gonna get flamed for this, hides behind the couch*

RIV@NVX · Jun 8, 2003, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Y2Stu
me

[SIZE=xx-large]AMD have no quailty[/SIZE]

*i know im gonna get flamed for this, hides behind the couch*

quailty? Interesting attribute... I am pretty sure that Intel has a lot of it...

tek · Jun 8, 2003, 07:17 PM

Once again I say... Intel blows donkey balls.. all they got is media and bullshit like Gateway, they should die

Y2Stu · Jun 8, 2003, 07:23 PM

with intel your buying for the quality, if it says the cpu is a 2.8Ghz you get a 2.8Ghz not like AMD where you buy an AMD Barton 3200+ and some newbie thinking its a 3.2GHz opens it installs it, read reviews of it online and it runs at a 2.whatever is runs at!

ztride · Jun 8, 2003, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Y2Stu
with intel your buying for the quality, if it says the cpu is a 2.8Ghz you get a 2.8Ghz not like AMD where you buy an AMD Barton 3200+ and some newbie thinking its a 3.2GHz opens it installs it, read reviews of it online and it runs at a 2.whatever is runs at!

I find that statement ironic.

MousePotato · Jun 8, 2003, 07:40 PM

AMD........because i care about my system , and its performance, not some monopolistic crap schit from Intel !!!!

Zardon · Jun 8, 2003, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Y2Stu
with intel your buying for the quality, if it says the cpu is a 2.8Ghz you get a 2.8Ghz not like AMD where you buy an AMD Barton 3200+ and some newbie thinking its a 3.2GHz opens it installs it, read reviews of it online and it runs at a 2.whatever is runs at!

I agree AMDs number scheme is becoming a little annoying. On the other hand if you click the links in my signature you will see just how well a barton3000 can perform, I doubt too many people purchasing one will have many complaints.

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Jun 8, 2003, 07:44 PM

i went with intel this time, i was with my 800 athlon for 2 1/2 yrs. for no reason it started overheating, the store said it was because it was aging and overheating. AMD processors jus cant handle heat as well as pentiums. and since ive been hearing how powerful pentiums really are i chose to pull out a bit more for a longer lasting processors. but i still like amd, jus afraid that it might start giving me problems again so suddenly.

Jun 8, 2003, 04:34 PM	#31
h0mer`- DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	Intel roxx! I tested AMD and Intel machines and intel really is the best choose. Most of you guys never got an Intel System, thats why they vote AMD! Sure they are even as fast as an equivalent intel system. Speed isn't the main reason to buy a CPU. Stability and reliability are more important to me. - P4 2.54 MHz - Asus P4T533 - 512 MB Rambus 32bit - Radeon 9700pro - 160 Gig Raid - 22" iiyama CRT - 3DMark 15231 My friends all have equivalent AMD systems and working on this machines is frustrating. At this time i would never buy a AMD CPU cause Intel produces better ones. Price doesn't matter to me. So, all you AMD friends...just tell us the truth, all the reaons for you to buy an AMD are about pricing...nothing else.

Jun 8, 2003, 04:48 PM	#34
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Jun 8, 2003, 04:59 PM	#35
Y2Stu HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Blackpool, UK Posts: 56 Rep Power: 0	i have seen most of my mates have amd problems then my mates having intel problems __________________

Jun 8, 2003, 05:00 PM	#36
JAGGEDUK DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: A bridge to far in the UK Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	wtf you on about more stable intel chips. I have not once had a crash or stability problems using an amd chip and have used erm for what seems like years now. I take it you mean intel are more stable for over clocking otherwise i consider what you have said to be bs. __________________

Jun 8, 2003, 05:24 PM	#40
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	Intel as a company does not deserve my business. That's the way I see it. All this talk about Intel being more stable- give me some proof. I'm sure the high end CPU's are fine and dandy- But Intel's marketing scheme is borderline illegal. They pretty much just outright lie to people. The Celeron is a joke and a rip off- and they know it- Intel is ROBBING many unsuspecting people with their "super fast 2ghz Celeron" as they are advertised.... What a farce. At least AMD is working towards better value for everyone, not trying to rip-off little old ladies that don't know any better all around the world. And anyone else who doesn't spend all day reading about CPU's. I have no respect for that kind of deceit. __________________

Jun 8, 2003, 04:36 PM	#32
starboy HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Brunei Posts: 127 Rep Power: 0	I wish i can go for intel side. however I cant afford it, just go for AMD. Earn more and get more upgrade

Jun 8, 2003, 05:11 PM	#37
Highwood Comfortably Numb Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Calgary Alberta Canada Posts: 504 Rep Power: 0	Amd, more bang for the buck

Jun 8, 2003, 05:41 PM	#42
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,047 Rep Power: 206	I've been an Intel man for years but AMD is the economical champion of overclocking and with Moore's Law every 18 months I have to upgrade right, ha ha ha......AMD will be my next machine... __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Jun 8, 2003, 05:44 PM	#43
sizetwo DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	although I would like to support the underdog, stability is the key factor to my work and not saving a few dollars. Consequently I use a P4 2.4 GHz. To all AMD'ers out there, keep it up, and lets hope it will be a _serious_ contender to Intel someday. __________________ -- amiga forever

Jun 8, 2003, 05:54 PM	#44
Kgentatszu] DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,802 Rep Power: 0	your first post!!! welcome Sizetwo to DH, hope you enjoy yourself here

Jun 8, 2003, 05:59 PM	Thread Starter #45
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	Haha, this thread is reminiscent of my Driverheaven infancy... when I posted almost exclusively in the FlameZone. There was some really fine Intel v. AMD debate in there -- if you guys are interested, you can find it here. It is in the FlameZone so bear that in mind (I am really not as mean as I seem in there!), but it is actually one of DH's largest threads, a fact that I am pretty proud of. Anyway. The various comments regarding AMD's perceived instability are not new, but they are unfounded. An AMD rig, built well with quality parts, will be no more unstable than any given Intel rig would be. KT266A is my personal favorite, because I've run 3D rendering apps in excess of 48 hours straight on such a board, without a single hiccup. 48 hours of 100% CPU utilization. That's nothing to sneeze it. Fact is, AMD rigs are not unstable. That is just an outdated notion based on past experience. It isn't characteristic of today's processors. One of AMD's main strengths is consistency. They stick with similar sockets longer. This, like Necrosis mentioned earlier, means you have to buy fewer motherboards to upgrade your CPU. K7 -> Thunderbird -> Thunderbird-C -> Palomino -> Thoroughbred -> Barton Slot A -> Socket A (100FSB) -> Socket A (266FSB) -> Socket A (333FSB) Katmai -> Coppermine -> Willamette -> Northwood -> Northwood-B -> Northwood-C Slot 1 -> Socket 370 -> Socket 423 -> S478 (100FSB) -> S478 (133FSB) -> S478 (200FSB) For AMD, you would have had to make four motherboard changes for SIX processor upgrades. But with Intel, you would have had to change your motherboard six times to swap out your processor six times. And that's ignoring FC-PGA2. Never mind the cash -- swapping out motherboards is a pain! :P

Jun 8, 2003, 06:11 PM	#46
fornicatarachnid Clanless Join Date: May 2002 Location: On the web, England UK Posts: 714 Rep Power: 0	LMAO Javafox ! I was just thinking the same thing as I read this thread. Nice idea !

Jun 8, 2003, 06:17 PM	#47
Kgentatszu] DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,802 Rep Power: 0	true enough, so that makes AMD one of the most sucessful processor in the world, am i right??

Jun 8, 2003, 06:44 PM	#48
Y2Stu HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Blackpool, UK Posts: 56 Rep Power: 0	ok then from what your saying from that previous post Intel is for rich people and amd is for people who won't pay for quality! Wooo im counted as a Rich person, Looks at Wallet, nah! __________________

Jun 8, 2003, 06:48 PM	#49
Kgentatszu] DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,802 Rep Power: 0	?? who said that??

Jun 8, 2003, 06:53 PM	#50
Y2Stu HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Blackpool, UK Posts: 56 Rep Power: 0	its the last post on page 3! __________________

Jun 8, 2003, 07:12 PM	#51
Kgentatszu] DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,802 Rep Power: 0	he's talking 'bout swapping mobos......and that using intels will require one to change mobo more often compared to an AMD user.......by the way, says who AMD has no quality??

Jun 8, 2003, 07:14 PM	#52
MIG-31 HardwareHeaven News Mod Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nottingham,UK Posts: 55,770 Rep Power: 444 System Specs	my current cpu is p4 2.5gig which i find for my needs is pretty good.but i would find it hard to compare to my previous cpu which was a 1.4 athalon! __________________ Please Post Your News Submissions Here

Jun 8, 2003, 07:15 PM	#53
Y2Stu HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Blackpool, UK Posts: 56 Rep Power: 0	me [SIZE=xx-large]AMD have no quailty[/SIZE] i know im gonna get flamed for this, hides behind the couch __________________

Jun 8, 2003, 07:17 PM	#55
tek DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, US Posts: 2,103 Rep Power: 0	Once again I say... Intel blows donkey balls.. all they got is media and bullshit like Gateway, they should die __________________ [COLOR=White][/COLOR]

Jun 8, 2003, 07:23 PM	#56
Y2Stu HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Blackpool, UK Posts: 56 Rep Power: 0	with intel your buying for the quality, if it says the cpu is a 2.8Ghz you get a 2.8Ghz not like AMD where you buy an AMD Barton 3200+ and some newbie thinking its a 3.2GHz opens it installs it, read reviews of it online and it runs at a 2.whatever is runs at! __________________

Jun 8, 2003, 07:40 PM	#58
MousePotato HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2002 Location: N.S., Canada Posts: 124 Rep Power: 60 System Specs	AMD........because i care about my system , and its performance, not some monopolistic crap schit from Intel !!!!

Jun 8, 2003, 07:44 PM	#60
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,706 Rep Power: 105 System Specs	i went with intel this time, i was with my 800 athlon for 2 1/2 yrs. for no reason it started overheating, the store said it was because it was aging and overheating. AMD processors jus cant handle heat as well as pentiums. and since ive been hearing how powerful pentiums really are i chose to pull out a bit more for a longer lasting processors. but i still like amd, jus afraid that it might start giving me problems again so suddenly. __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard