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Old Mar 28, 2009, 04:12 PM   #1
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First of all, i tired from search for the best Core i7 Motherboard until now,
and i want to open a discussion for this subject . everyone will get in this discussion keep in his mind this ,that we don't speak about prices here we speak about performence and overclocking and 3D gaming on that Mobo.so everyone invited to give the best about this discussion. and i will determine some mobo to speak about :

1-Asus Rampage II Extreme X58.
2-gigabyte GA-EX58-extreme.
3-MSI Eclipse x58.
4-Asus X58 P6t6 Ws Revolution.
5-ASUS P6T DELUXE X58.
6-EVGA X58.

the points to discuss:

1-Performance overall.
2-Best Overclocking.( Include the Heat of system after OC )
3-Advantage and Disadvantage.( design , performance , ......)
4-3D heavy gaming performance.( with Nvidia SLI and CrossFire ATI ).
5-Any other points you can discuss it with us.

And anyone already have one of those mobo can give us a feed back for it.

i will wait your opinons.
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while i cant help u on the mb issue(tho from what i have read the base p6t is the best bang for the buckk x58 mb out there),i am stuck on x38 & will be for a while, just wanted to welcome you to dh.
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Re: The Best X58 Motherboard for now

My choice wouldn't be any of those. The best would be the eVGA X58 Classified and the Foxconn X58 Blood Rage. Better components, better CPU/DRAM power regulation. The Foxconn does have an awful layout though. Seriously 3 DRAM slots? WTF were they thinking. And the shorted you a PCIe slot too.

Which leaves the Classified. If I had an unlimited budget for an X58 board, it would be this without a doubt. The layout is great, the board is sexy. Digital 10-phase CPU, 3-phase DRAM PLL. So your voltages should be stable, when overclocking.

As for SLI/Crossfire. Boards make very little difference. Maybe 1-3 FPS which is nothing.
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Re: The Best X58 Motherboard for now

I've used (and reviewed) most of them and more... if you want features and overclocking you go for the Rampage 2... if you want stability and something which will be reliable now and in a few years you go for the DX58SO. In terms of performance at stock they are all pretty similar...
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veridian, do u know y the intel board has 4 mem slots? very strange config for a 3x channel designed chipset. aslo it appears that at least 1, maybe 2 sata connectors are in teh way of vid cards. & is that the 8 pin power connector sitting in the middle of the board? nvm it is.
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veridian, do u know y the intel board has 4 mem slots? very strange config for a 3x channel designed chipset. aslo it appears that at least 1, maybe 2 sata connectors are in teh way of vid cards. & is that the 8 pin power connector sitting in the middle of the board? nvm it is.
I think the thinking behind the memory slots is that there are not many people who will need more than 12gb (or 16 if you use the 4th slot) any time soon. In the case of Foxconn they chose 3 slots as they found that configuration was best for overclocking.

As for SATAs, depending on the card and cables used there can be an issue but most of the time it shouldnt be a problem... like i said though Asus for features etc, Intel for a board thats build like a tank
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im more a tank guy myself. thx.
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Re: The Best X58 Motherboard for now

thank you for welcoming miKe2h i am pleasured to join driverheaven.
i search again , and i found a surprise about RIIE that achieve a overclocking at 5510.9 MHz
(ASUS Rampage II Extreme Motherboard Set i7 Overclocking Record) WOW. i think they need water cooling and so good air flow to reach that rate.

And for intel x58 mobo it's not good enough , it have lake of memory slots as you say just 4 slots , and for performance it's poorest mobo overall I7 platform. i am wonder that intel invent the I7 and can't support it with powerfull mobo.

i want think with you about the 3 PCI Express x16 in Asus p6t that so nice that the all 3 GPU will get a full X16 slot , not like other board it dvided the last 2 with x8 for each, and this mobo it's also have a high overclocking rate. and also the best i see about PCI Express on the p6t6 Revolution it have 4 of them , mmmm i guess that that will be quad system for GPU .

For foxconn Bloodrage yes man i see it., it's so good mobo but it stuck again like intel just 3 DDR3 slots.this mobo can reach good rate if they fix some weak on it.
until now i see the GIGABYTE GA-EX58-ExTREME and Asus RIIE and P6T6 Revolution is the top.
and i will keep in touch with you for new and for any update i will read over net.
and here a v.good comparsion between The ASUS Rampage 2 Extreme ,The Gigabyte GA-EX58-EXTREME. and The MSI Eclipse SLI (Going to the Extremes - Intel X58 Motherboards Roundup :: Articles :: www.hardwarezone.com). i hope it's be useful

And here so it's the best Intel X58 Six mobo Platforms Compared (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...d-i7,2164.html). enjoy it.

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Just a piece of advice: if you want the option of being able to use Crossfire or SLI, pay particular attention to the boards you pick up. By default the X58 board only supports Crossfire, and manufacturers pay Nvidia a royalty fee to get SLI support via Nvidias drivers. Companies like Gigabyte (for instance) have boards that do and don't support SLI (non SLI supported boards usually cost $75 to $100 less than those that do), so be sure that whatever board you get, if you want the option of SLI, make sure it says so on the box, and in the supported specs.
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Re: The Best X58 Motherboard for now

EVGA X58 Classified, or ASUS Rampage 2 are my first choices (I have a Rampage II and Smackover)...

Foxconn Bloodrage and the Intel DX58SO boards are on the same tier in my mind for their limited DRAM capacity, the bloodrage will clock better though (Bloodrage= 6GB, Intel is pretty much 6GB as well, it has a 4th DIMM but it runs single channel, these values assume use of 2GB sticks).

As far as SLI/Crossfire, pretty much all X58's in the enthusiast tier support both platforms. The last of which was the Intel DX58SO, however a simple BIOS update was all that was needed for dual support.

I would wait to see what the B3 X58 brings, the rumor around is they fixed a couple problems with PCI-E but that is yet to be confirmed.
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I would go with Asus Rampage II Extreme X58 for over clocking and over all features .

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Re: The Best X58 Motherboard for now

Yes , guys , i prefer Rampage II Extreme for all these feature , plus it reach the highest Overclocking Rate overall Mobo.

For Now i make a comparison sheet for the most high end x58 mobo , when i finish it i will post it for you.

i will waiting any other suggestions.
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First of all, i tired from search for the best Core i7 Motherboard until now,
and i want to open a discussion for this subject . everyone will get in this discussion keep in his mind this ,that we don't speak about prices here we speak about performence and overclocking and 3D gaming on that Mobo.so everyone invited to give the best about this discussion. and i will determine some mobo to speak about :

1-Asus Rampage II Extreme X58.
2-gigabyte GA-EX58-extreme.
3-MSI Eclipse x58.
4-Asus X58 P6t6 Ws Rev.olution
5-ASUS P6T DELUXE X58.
6-EVGA X58.

the points to discuss:

1-Performance overall.
2-Best Overclocking.( Include the Heat of system after OC )
3-Advantage and Disadvantage.( design , performance , ......)
4-3D heavy gaming performance.( with Nvidia SLI and CrossFire ATI ).
5-Any other points you can discuss it with us.

And anyone already have one of those mobo can give us a feed back for it.

i will wait your opinons.
While I do not have 1st hand experience with all of your listed boards, I can share my opinion on what I have worked with and read about.

My opinion may be a bit jaded as I have a board that is not on your list. I dumped my DFI Lanparty x48 board (which I hated) in favor of the new EVGA Classified board. I have had it running almost 2 weeks now and I must say it is the best board I have ever used for a home based overclocking rig. I have also built systems with the Asus P6T Deluxe with the O/C palm control. My second choice was the Asus X58 P6t6 Ws Revolution followed by the regular EVGA x58 SLI board. The only reason I did not consider the Rampage II extreme was it did not have enough expansion slots or SATA connectors. I have 10 hard drives, 2 burners and 3 video cards I require connections for.

I picked the EVGA because of 1.Quality 2.Customer Service 3.Board specs. I am sure Gigabyte and MSI make fine boards but after reading and talking to others, I did not feel comfortable with them.

I have my i7 920 chip at 4GHz on air with a lapped T.R.U.E. cooler and CPU. It took less than a day to get 4GHz stable and this board/CPU. It will probably go higher but honestly this rig is plenty fast at 4Ghz. I would say make sure what-ever board you get, make sure you get a good power supply and compatible memory. I am using a PC Power and Cooling 1K watt supply I have had for 2-1/2 years and triple channel Corsair Dominators 1600's with a fan based Corsair memory cooler.

At 4GHz, the 920 does produce some heat. I run at 1.4 vCore. My idle temp is 48c or 118f (depending on your part of the world) The ThermalRight heatsink does a wonderful job with the heat dissipation. The only time I can even load this CPU down is during a Prime95 Blend Stress Test. With more tweaking, I can probably get my voltage down a couple of .01's. I really have not had the time to fully explore the classified board. I was able to get a higher overclock on my classified board than the other 2 Asus P6T Deluxe boards I built using the 920 CPU. The classifed only has a single PCI slot but it also has 3 x16, 1 x8 and 1 x1 PCI Express slots. A person could run triple 285's at full x16 mode. I also believe you can do this on the WS Revolution as well.

I run 3 26inch LCD's. I do not game but run several things on each monitor at the same time and could not be more amazed at the raw speed of this new i7 chip. I am lucky if it ever breaks 33% CPU usage most of the time. I like EVGA as a company. I have purchased EVGA products for myself and for friends and have had to RMA a couple of times over the years. Dealing with EVGA has always been a fairly painless endeavor.

good luck
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Dayum, that eVGA X58 Classified board is sssssssexy! I may have to drop the dough for one of those!
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MHZ Tweaker , wow you have many driver man , that's cool , as i see the EVAG is so cool , no one can say anything about it , but if you love to massive OC , make a compare between EVAG and RIIE , RIIE will win in OC , that's doesn't mean that EVAG is not good , it's so sweet and nice but it couldn't reach the RIIE OC rate.

the 3 BEST Mobo for i7 system , you have ever had if u need massive OC are : 1-Asus Rampage II Extreme X58.
2-gigabyte GA-EX58-extreme.
3-Evga X58.
But there is so nice mobo for i7 from Asus (p6t DELUXE and P6t6 Ws Revolution), very good performance mobo but not for massive OC
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MHZ Tweaker , wow you have many driver man , that's cool , as i see the EVAG is so cool , no one can say anything about it , but if you love to massive OC , make a compare between EVAG and RIIE , RIIE will win in OC , that's doesn't mean that EVAG is not good , it's so sweet and nice but it couldn't reach the RIIE OC rate.

the 3 BEST Mobo for i7 system , you have ever had if u need massive OC are : 1-Asus Rampage II Extreme X58.
2-gigabyte GA-EX58-extreme.
3-Evga X58.
But there is so nice mobo for i7 from Asus (p6t DELUXE and P6t6 Ws Revolution), very good performance mobo but not for massive OC
Definitely not correct. The Classified is the best i7 overclocking board out there. 10-phase Volterra digital PWM vs the analog phase of RIIE. 4-phase memory of the Classified, 3-phase of the RIIE. The Classified even has 3-phase NB power regulation. And I do believe that Shamino assisted on the design of the board. But at $440USD it better be good.
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Very interesting discussion going on here, glad I found it. If one were looking more for stability and gaming ability which would be the best X58 board?


I apologize if my question is off topic.
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If you are happy with 6GB and have no plans to upgrade to 12GB, then the Intel X58BSO. Isn't an overclocking king or anything, but stability is one thing were Intel boards always lead.
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If you are happy with 6GB and have no plans to upgrade to 12GB, then the Intel X58BSO. Isn't an overclocking king or anything, but stability is one thing were Intel boards always lead.

Please forgive my ignorance, but in what cases would 12 gigs of memory be better than 6 gigs? I always thought one needed more memory when doing heavy graphic work such as video editing or such things?
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Well if you don't run with a page file for one. I found get applications running out of memory when I was using 6GB.
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Well if you don't run with a page file for one. I found get applications running out of memory when I was using 6GB.

Ahh....I see. I'll have to keep that in mind on my next build, which might be pretty soon.
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