Bios

Victor1651 · May 6, 2009, 01:26 AM

Would anyone know where I can get a Phoenix Award bios download please. My system won't start without it. Just have that nasty feeling.

**kris23** · May 6, 2009, 02:46 AM

welcome to DH Victor, let me try to help you out a bit

if theres no way to flash the BIOS, you cant update.

also, not just any Phoenix BIOS will work, you need one written for your board, written by the board manufacturer. what board do you use?

lastly, this would be in either the Hardware Discussion and Support or the Motherboards and Networking forum. i cant move it though....

roadrunner17 · May 6, 2009, 03:10 AM

The Bios is kept on a chip that you can either replace or repair if it gets corrupted and won't boot at all.

Here is the way to repair it if you have another board with the same bios. It works- I did it with an old ASUS board that I had a twin of in my wifes computer.

here is a way to reprogram the Bios Chip if it gets corrupted.

If your system has a Corrupted Bios and won't Post this will work.. It is Mainly Called "hot Flashing"

1. Remove the corrupted Bios chip from the motherboard.

2. Find somebody or another Mobo with the same style socket and boot that system to windows or Dos depending on which flash program you are using.

3. while the system is running, pull the bios Chip out and install the corrupted Bios chip into the Motherboard.

4. Now start your Flash program and do the following depending which program you are using:

a: If you are using an Abit MOBO and flashmenu to do it, you must check out the "Ignore BIOS partnumber check" which is located under "Advanced setting", or else the flashmenu will stop cause the bios differs with the MOBO.

b: If using a Dos App, Use the -f parameter to force the program to Program the chip..

c: If using Winflash, It will give you a Bios ID error and tell it to ignore it. also make sure to have it clear and program all areas.

5. reprogram the chip. When it finishes, Do not have the system reboot.

6. Pull the Bios chip out and Install the original back into the Motherboard you were using to program the chip. then use the system as normal..

7. Reinstall the reprogrammed chip back into it's socket and go from there..

NOTE: if you don't do this right, it could be disastrous to the Mobo you are using to reprogram the chip.

It is important that you switch chips without rebooting or turning the computer off so you can put the chip back in the programming computer. The Bios chip is only used on bootup- after that it can be removed.

Now if that is too much for you, or you don't have access to another MB with the same type of chip then you can order one new or have yours reprogrammed-
try this site-

828155

There are others also.
Not many know that a corrupted bios doesn't mean the MB is trash.

**kris23** · May 6, 2009, 03:45 AM

thats all with the presumption that the BIOS chip is easily user replaceable....

most BIOSes are soldered to the board itself now as the DIP type of connector has become obsolete. generally reflow soldering is used to solder these SMT components and using something like a soldering iron would result in messy work and voiding of warranty.

roadrunner17 · May 6, 2009, 04:18 AM

You're right, it may be soldered in.
I guess Victor1651 has to let us know what MB he has in order to help him.
If it is a later board under warranty then he should RMA it instead of fooling around with it.
If it is an older board then he really has nothing to lose trying to repair it himself.

May 6, 2009, 01:26 AM	#1
Victor1651 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Bios Would anyone know where I can get a Phoenix Award bios download please. My system won't start without it. Just have that nasty feeling.

May 6, 2009, 02:46 AM	#2
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Re: Bios welcome to DH Victor, let me try to help you out a bit if theres no way to flash the BIOS, you cant update. also, not just any Phoenix BIOS will work, you need one written for your board, written by the board manufacturer. what board do you use? lastly, this would be in either the Hardware Discussion and Support or the Motherboards and Networking forum. i cant move it though.... __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

May 6, 2009, 03:10 AM	#3
roadrunner17 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Irvine, Ca Posts: 41 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: Bios The Bios is kept on a chip that you can either replace or repair if it gets corrupted and won't boot at all. Here is the way to repair it if you have another board with the same bios. It works- I did it with an old ASUS board that I had a twin of in my wifes computer. here is a way to reprogram the Bios Chip if it gets corrupted. If your system has a Corrupted Bios and won't Post this will work.. It is Mainly Called "hot Flashing" 1. Remove the corrupted Bios chip from the motherboard. 2. Find somebody or another Mobo with the same style socket and boot that system to windows or Dos depending on which flash program you are using. 3. while the system is running, pull the bios Chip out and install the corrupted Bios chip into the Motherboard. 4. Now start your Flash program and do the following depending which program you are using: a: If you are using an Abit MOBO and flashmenu to do it, you must check out the "Ignore BIOS partnumber check" which is located under "Advanced setting", or else the flashmenu will stop cause the bios differs with the MOBO. b: If using a Dos App, Use the -f parameter to force the program to Program the chip.. c: If using Winflash, It will give you a Bios ID error and tell it to ignore it. also make sure to have it clear and program all areas. 5. reprogram the chip. When it finishes, Do not have the system reboot. 6. Pull the Bios chip out and Install the original back into the Motherboard you were using to program the chip. then use the system as normal.. 7. Reinstall the reprogrammed chip back into it's socket and go from there.. NOTE: if you don't do this right, it could be disastrous to the Mobo you are using to reprogram the chip. It is important that you switch chips without rebooting or turning the computer off so you can put the chip back in the programming computer. The Bios chip is only used on bootup- after that it can be removed. Now if that is too much for you, or you don't have access to another MB with the same type of chip then you can order one new or have yours reprogrammed- try this site- 828155 There are others also. Not many know that a corrupted bios doesn't mean the MB is trash.

May 6, 2009, 03:45 AM	#4
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Re: Bios thats all with the presumption that the BIOS chip is easily user replaceable.... most BIOSes are soldered to the board itself now as the DIP type of connector has become obsolete. generally reflow soldering is used to solder these SMT components and using something like a soldering iron would result in messy work and voiding of warranty. __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

May 6, 2009, 04:18 AM	#5
roadrunner17 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Irvine, Ca Posts: 41 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: Bios You're right, it may be soldered in. I guess Victor1651 has to let us know what MB he has in order to help him. If it is a later board under warranty then he should RMA it instead of fooling around with it. If it is an older board then he really has nothing to lose trying to repair it himself.