Advice needed on building a New System

~~RE III - Frankie~~ · May 18, 2009, 01:15 AM

Here's the specs for my new system I'll be putting together after the 27th.

CPU: Q8200 2.33GHz
Graphics: ATI 4850X2 1GB
RAM: 8GB 1066MHz DDR2

My old system Specs

CPU: E7300 2.66GHz
Graphics: Nvidia 9800GTX
RAM: 4GB OCZ SLI Ready 667MHz DDR2

3DMark Vantage Score: P8200 3DMarks

Let me know what you think.

swimtech · May 18, 2009, 01:29 AM

Are you re-using your existing motherboard?

**kris23** · May 18, 2009, 01:51 AM

look in my sig for a system in your price range..... the Q8200 isnt very competitive.... its really just a Q6600 without the OCability....

id look at the Phenom II Quads. they have greater OCability now with no issues

~~RE III - Frankie~~ · May 18, 2009, 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swimtech

Are you re-using your existing motherboard?

I recently replaced my aging Asus with a new Gigabyte addition. The EP43-UD3L edition. It supports up to 16GB of system memory.

~~RE III - Frankie~~ · May 18, 2009, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kris23

look in my sig for a system in your price range..... the Q8200 isnt very competitive.... its really just a Q6600 without the OCability....

id look at the Phenom II Quads. they have greater OCability now with no issues

I read a review that the guys at Atomic Magazine were able to get the Q8200 up to 3.4GHz with stock cooling. That's actually what I'll be aiming for.

**kris23** · May 18, 2009, 03:15 AM

doesnt really sound all that impressive... especially all the stress on the mobo from a high FSB... thats not something id do for 24/7 operation... you can break a chipset with all the added volts necessary for that

**kris23** · May 18, 2009, 03:21 AM

also it may be important to know that the Q8200 doesnt support Virtualization Technology ( no XP mode in Win 7) so if you want to use the XP virtual PC, you wont be able to with this CPU

swimtech · May 18, 2009, 03:21 AM

Cool about the motherboard.

I'd consider nudging your choice of processor up to the Q8400 - the slightly higher multiplier will help with overclocking, and it supports the Q9xxx series features, including Intel VT for virtualization (you may want to fiddle with that later), minus 2Mb of cache from the Q9xxx series though (but the same 4Mb cache as the 8200). Only $20 more or so...

~~RE III - Frankie~~ · May 18, 2009, 03:28 AM

I don't know. I think I'm happy with my choices so far. I just need advice with accessories and stuff. Like adon cards and the such. Like what's cool out there and where can I get it. I'm not sure where to start. I know of some gadget sites, but they're not that impressive. As for virtualization, I've never used it before. I don't think I'll need it. Besides if I really needed XP I want to install it seperately from my new OS's.

**kris23** · May 18, 2009, 03:37 AM

very nice....

yes the Q8400 supports intel VT so youre all set with that if you want it.

the 8x multiplier means you can hit 3.4-3.5GHz with less MB stress.

before the 4850X2 wasnt a good idea as it wasnt supported by ATi but now it is fully supported by the Official Catalyst go for it!

swimtech · May 18, 2009, 03:52 AM

The VT technology is just a future-proofing feature really at this point - might come in handy in a year or two, but the 8400 should easily get you to 3.4Ghz - I'm clocking the big brother of that chip (6Mb cache Q9400) to that exact frequency now on less than 1.25 volts - you're mileage may vary though.

Um, as for accessories, what do you want to do with the machine after you upgrade?

**kris23** · May 18, 2009, 04:02 AM

can always get a bluray drive...

isaak · May 18, 2009, 07:55 AM

sound/tv tuner cards?

anonemus · May 18, 2009, 07:57 AM

Bigger monitor?

nicnik · May 18, 2009, 12:48 PM

bigger power supply perhaps. if you plan to clock into the 3.4ghz range anyway.

~~RE III - Frankie~~ · May 19, 2009, 01:28 AM

Bluray is a good idea. Have had problems with TV-Tuner cards in the past. A bigger screen probably wouldn't fit my space. I'll have to check on whether I need to upgrade my power supply. Probably will.

adamosmaki · May 19, 2009, 04:18 PM

Looks good. One suggestion though. If you have the moneygo for an intel 9xxx series quad core. Although the 8200 is a good cpu you wont see that much difference from your old cpu. Also you might wanna go for a bit bigger psu if you are gonna overclock and considering you are gonna buy a dual gpu vga
Also why are you changing your pc so soon. Your current rig looks decent enough for everything even gaming. I suggest keep it a few more months wait for the new Cpu's from intel and the new graphics cards series from ati and nvidia ( from what it looks we will see a huge jump from the current gen of vgas to the new one as big as going from pixel and vertex to unified shaders )
BTW i have the same psu superflower but 650W and tested it with 2gtx260+q6600 and works excellent

Vikingod · May 19, 2009, 05:14 PM

What do you typically do with your computer? Are you big into games / media / music?

Another HDD is always a good investment, especially if all you have is that 500gb one under your sys. specs. I think Newegg has a 1tb drive for $90 this week.

procupine14 · May 19, 2009, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikingod

What do you typically do with your computer? Are you big into games / media / music?

Another HDD is always a good investment, especially if all you have is that 500gb one under your sys. specs. I think Newegg has a 1tb drive for $90 this week.

not just that one but if you trust Hitachi (I do but some people don't like them) Newegg has their 1TB version on there for 79 i think?

HDD would be a good investment regardless.

~~RE III - Frankie~~ · May 21, 2009, 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamosmaki

Looks good. One suggestion though. If you have the moneygo for an intel 9xxx series quad core. Although the 8200 is a good cpu you wont see that much difference from your old cpu. Also you might wanna go for a bit bigger psu if you are gonna overclock and considering you are gonna buy a dual gpu vga
Also why are you changing your pc so soon. Your current rig looks decent enough for everything even gaming. I suggest keep it a few more months wait for the new Cpu's from intel and the new graphics cards series from ati and nvidia ( from what it looks we will see a huge jump from the current gen of vgas to the new one as big as going from pixel and vertex to unified shaders )
BTW i have the same psu superflower but 650W and tested it with 2gtx260+q6600 and works excellent

My GPU is aging and doesn't say enough about me. So out it goes come Monday! My current CPU has been to 4GHz+ so I'm wanting to replace that also. Plus I like the 8200. RAM is OK, but I'll end up upgrading from that also.
On the PSU sounds good. I'll probably wait and test out my hardware on my current PSU first before replacing. If it needs to I'll get a Xigmatek 750W CrossfireX Quad SLI Certified box.

~~RE III - Frankie~~ · May 21, 2009, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikingod

What do you typically do with your computer? Are you big into games / media / music?

Another HDD is always a good investment, especially if all you have is that 500gb one under your sys. specs. I think Newegg has a 1tb drive for $90 this week.

Presently I don't need an extra HDD, but it is a good idea and I do plan to get an additional 250GB or 500GB HD in the near future.

May 18, 2009, 01:15 AM	#1
~~RE III - Frankie~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,754 Rep Power: 0	Advice needed on building a New System Here's the specs for my new system I'll be putting together after the 27th. CPU: Q8200 2.33GHz Graphics: ATI 4850X2 1GB RAM: 8GB 1066MHz DDR2 My old system Specs CPU: E7300 2.66GHz Graphics: Nvidia 9800GTX RAM: 4GB OCZ SLI Ready 667MHz DDR2 3DMark Vantage Score: P8200 3DMarks Let me know what you think.

May 18, 2009, 01:29 AM	#2
swimtech HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,040 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	Re: Advice needed on building a New System Are you re-using your existing motherboard? __________________ It's not so much getting your way that matters or not - what matters is how you go about getting it.

May 18, 2009, 01:51 AM	#3
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Re: Advice needed on building a New System look in my sig for a system in your price range..... the Q8200 isnt very competitive.... its really just a Q6600 without the OCability.... id look at the Phenom II Quads. they have greater OCability now with no issues __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

May 18, 2009, 03:15 AM	#6
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Re: Advice needed on building a New System doesnt really sound all that impressive... especially all the stress on the mobo from a high FSB... thats not something id do for 24/7 operation... you can break a chipset with all the added volts necessary for that __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

May 18, 2009, 03:21 AM	#7
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Re: Advice needed on building a New System also it may be important to know that the Q8200 doesnt support Virtualization Technology ( no XP mode in Win 7) so if you want to use the XP virtual PC, you wont be able to with this CPU __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

May 18, 2009, 03:28 AM	Thread Starter #9
~~RE III - Frankie~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,754 Rep Power: 0	Re: Advice needed on building a New System I don't know. I think I'm happy with my choices so far. I just need advice with accessories and stuff. Like adon cards and the such. Like what's cool out there and where can I get it. I'm not sure where to start. I know of some gadget sites, but they're not that impressive. As for virtualization, I've never used it before. I don't think I'll need it. Besides if I really needed XP I want to install it seperately from my new OS's.

May 18, 2009, 03:37 AM	#10
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Re: Advice needed on building a New System very nice.... yes the Q8400 supports intel VT so youre all set with that if you want it. the 8x multiplier means you can hit 3.4-3.5GHz with less MB stress. before the 4850X2 wasnt a good idea as it wasnt supported by ATi but now it is fully supported by the Official Catalyst go for it! __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

May 18, 2009, 03:52 AM	#11
swimtech HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,040 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	Re: Advice needed on building a New System The VT technology is just a future-proofing feature really at this point - might come in handy in a year or two, but the 8400 should easily get you to 3.4Ghz - I'm clocking the big brother of that chip (6Mb cache Q9400) to that exact frequency now on less than 1.25 volts - you're mileage may vary though. Um, as for accessories, what do you want to do with the machine after you upgrade? __________________ It's not so much getting your way that matters or not - what matters is how you go about getting it.

May 18, 2009, 04:02 AM	#12
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Re: Advice needed on building a New System can always get a bluray drive... __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

May 18, 2009, 07:55 AM	#13
isaak HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 2,286 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	Re: Advice needed on building a New System sound/tv tuner cards? __________________ The first step... shall be to lose the way. - Galway Kinnell

May 18, 2009, 07:57 AM	#14
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May 18, 2009, 12:48 PM	#15
nicnik In the Land of Snow Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 569 Rep Power: 46 System Specs	Re: Advice needed on building a New System bigger power supply perhaps. if you plan to clock into the 3.4ghz range anyway. __________________ Follow Me on Twitter Battlefield 3 \| youtube \| TwitchTV

May 19, 2009, 01:28 AM	Thread Starter #16
~~RE III - Frankie~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,754 Rep Power: 0	Re: Advice needed on building a New System Bluray is a good idea. Have had problems with TV-Tuner cards in the past. A bigger screen probably wouldn't fit my space. I'll have to check on whether I need to upgrade my power supply. Probably will.

May 19, 2009, 04:18 PM	#17
adamosmaki http://pcvideogaming.blog Join Date: May 2009 Location: Cyprus Posts: 61 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: Advice needed on building a New System Looks good. One suggestion though. If you have the moneygo for an intel 9xxx series quad core. Although the 8200 is a good cpu you wont see that much difference from your old cpu. Also you might wanna go for a bit bigger psu if you are gonna overclock and considering you are gonna buy a dual gpu vga Also why are you changing your pc so soon. Your current rig looks decent enough for everything even gaming. I suggest keep it a few more months wait for the new Cpu's from intel and the new graphics cards series from ati and nvidia ( from what it looks we will see a huge jump from the current gen of vgas to the new one as big as going from pixel and vertex to unified shaders ) BTW i have the same psu superflower but 650W and tested it with 2gtx260+q6600 and works excellent

May 19, 2009, 05:14 PM	#18
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,197 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	Re: Advice needed on building a New System What do you typically do with your computer? Are you big into games / media / music? Another HDD is always a good investment, especially if all you have is that 500gb one under your sys. specs. I think Newegg has a 1tb drive for $90 this week.