Brother's computer died, rebuild time

IEMC · Jul 19, 2009, 10:24 PM

Alright, I need some help. I haven't caught up with the hardware realm yet, so guidance is needed.

Price limit is $200 with a tolerance of $50 dollars (so let's just say $250 is the absolute max).

We need a motherboard, CPU, and RAM. He said he wants to start off with 2 gigs of RAM and upgrade later on.

Any suggestions will be excellent, so thanks in advanced.
(Note: We're in the US, so New Egg is recommended, but other deals found are welcome)

**kris23** · Jul 19, 2009, 11:56 PM

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Newegg.com - Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model CT2KIT25664AA800 - Desktop Memory

theres ur $250 limit answered with performance equaling an intel E8400

OldBuzzard · Jul 20, 2009, 07:59 AM

How about a bit more performance that that:

79.99 Newegg.com - ASRock A780GXE/128M AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G ATX AMD Motherboard - AMD Motherboards

49.99 Newegg.com - CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-6400C5 - Desktop Memory

119.99 Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Black Processor - Processors - Desktops

Right at the 250.00 high limit, but will be a danged decent performing system.

IF he could squeeze the pocketbook hard enough to get 10.00 more out of it, then he could go with this RAM for just a bit more performance. Especially if he might want to OC that sweet 720.

59.99 Newegg.com - CORSAIR XMS2 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-8500C5C G - Desktop Memory

**kris23** · Jul 20, 2009, 05:15 PM

if working with the tri-core, id go with this

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better spec'd mobo....... just in case crossfire or physX is something he'd like to use

Bolletje · Jul 20, 2009, 06:49 PM

Then you can better ask what graphics card he has at the moment.

So what parts you already got IEMC?

OldBuzzard · Jul 21, 2009, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kris23

... better spec'd mobo....... just in case crossfire or physX is something he'd like to use

Not all that better speced. The biggest difference in the 2 boards is that the Asus is an AM3 socket and needs DDR3 memory. He can use Crossfire or physX with the Arock.

Going with the Asus board would lay waste to his budget as well. It's $60.00 more than the Asrock, plus it requires DDR3 memory which would cost even more.

Nope, for getting the best bang for his buck, the Asrock beats the Asus hands down.

**kris23** · Jul 21, 2009, 12:52 AM

deng i clicked the wrong board lmao.... thanks OB

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thats what i was looking for but it seems to go out the price range

OldBuzzard · Jul 21, 2009, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kris23

deng i clicked the wrong board lmao.... thanks OB ...

That's OK. SOMEBODY has to keep you danged young whippersnappers on your toes.

IEMC · Jul 21, 2009, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolletje

Then you can better ask what graphics card he has at the moment.

So what parts you already got IEMC?

He's got a 9600 GT he just got, and he's not a huge gamer so it's perfect for him.

Other than that he's just got the hard drives, disk drives, PSU, etc.

This is great, guys. I really like Kris's second selection. Keep them coming.

(Question, though: how out of the picture is getting DDR3?)

procupine14 · Jul 21, 2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by IEMC

(Question, though: how out of the picture is getting DDR3?)

That really depends on how cheap you want to go. There are some basic 2GB DDR3 1333 on newegg for really cheap when you are looking at dual channel AMD stuff

also if you are looking at a cheap DDR3 1333 4GB kit there is something like this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820178238

The main issue being that the board itself is quite expensive as an AM3. but guys correct me if im wrong but couldn't we throw in a less expensive board that offers a single PCIe since hes not sounding like he wants much more?

**kris23** · Jul 21, 2009, 08:19 PM

Newegg.com - ECS BLACK SERIES A780GM-A AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - AMD Motherboards

Newegg.com - G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-4GBNT - Desktop Memory

Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X4 920 2.8GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops

the most performance you can get at slightly above 250 bucks

IEMC · Jul 21, 2009, 10:21 PM

Wow, you just keep bringing the awesome setups.

Thanks procupine. I did find a fairly inexpensive DDR3 board for not too much, I can't find the link though.

Anymore help with DDR3 in mind would be awesome. I'll discuss the stuff so far with him.

**kris23** · Jul 24, 2009, 03:02 AM

the thing with DDR3 vs DDR2 is that the bandwidth isnt that much different due to the memory controller needing a bit of work, DDR2 is just as good really.....

IEMC · Jul 24, 2009, 11:52 PM

I'll take your word for it :P

This is probably all null, as my brother is just RMAing the board. Turns out warranty was still in effect.

Thanks anyhow, guys. I'll probably be asking again in a few months for myself when college starts. Cheers.

**kris23** · Jul 25, 2009, 07:25 AM

lol cheers man

Jul 19, 2009, 10:24 PM	#1
IEMC Neighborhood screw up. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: MI, US Posts: 770 Rep Power: 55 System Specs	Brother's computer died, rebuild time Alright, I need some help. I haven't caught up with the hardware realm yet, so guidance is needed. Price limit is $200 with a tolerance of $50 dollars (so let's just say $250 is the absolute max). We need a motherboard, CPU, and RAM. He said he wants to start off with 2 gigs of RAM and upgrade later on. Any suggestions will be excellent, so thanks in advanced. (Note: We're in the US, so New Egg is recommended, but other deals found are welcome) __________________

Jul 19, 2009, 11:56 PM	#2
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Re: Brother's computer died, rebuild time Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, Digital Cameras and more! Newegg.com - Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model CT2KIT25664AA800 - Desktop Memory theres ur $250 limit answered with performance equaling an intel E8400 __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jul 20, 2009, 07:59 AM	#3
OldBuzzard DH's oldest Geek Join Date: May 2003 Location: Oberlin, OH Posts: 2,781 Rep Power: 142 System Specs	Re: Brother's computer died, rebuild time How about a bit more performance that that: 79.99 Newegg.com - ASRock A780GXE/128M AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G ATX AMD Motherboard - AMD Motherboards 49.99 Newegg.com - CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-6400C5 - Desktop Memory 119.99 Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Black Processor - Processors - Desktops Right at the 250.00 high limit, but will be a danged decent performing system. IF he could squeeze the pocketbook hard enough to get 10.00 more out of it, then he could go with this RAM for just a bit more performance. Especially if he might want to OC that sweet 720. 59.99 Newegg.com - CORSAIR XMS2 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-8500C5C G - Desktop Memory __________________ When looking for a reason as to why things go wrong, never rule out sheer STUPIDITY

Jul 20, 2009, 05:15 PM	#4
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Re: Brother's computer died, rebuild time if working with the tri-core, id go with this Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, Digital Cameras and more! better spec'd mobo....... just in case crossfire or physX is something he'd like to use __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jul 20, 2009, 06:49 PM	#5
Bolletje HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,224 Rep Power: 79 System Specs	Re: Brother's computer died, rebuild time Then you can better ask what graphics card he has at the moment. So what parts you already got IEMC?

Jul 21, 2009, 12:52 AM	#7
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Re: Brother's computer died, rebuild time deng i clicked the wrong board lmao.... thanks OB Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, Digital Cameras and more! thats what i was looking for but it seems to go out the price range __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jul 21, 2009, 08:19 PM	#11
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Re: Brother's computer died, rebuild time Newegg.com - ECS BLACK SERIES A780GM-A AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - AMD Motherboards Newegg.com - G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-4GBNT - Desktop Memory Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X4 920 2.8GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops the most performance you can get at slightly above 250 bucks __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jul 21, 2009, 10:21 PM	Thread Starter #12
IEMC Neighborhood screw up. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: MI, US Posts: 770 Rep Power: 55 System Specs	Re: Brother's computer died, rebuild time Wow, you just keep bringing the awesome setups. Thanks procupine. I did find a fairly inexpensive DDR3 board for not too much, I can't find the link though. Anymore help with DDR3 in mind would be awesome. I'll discuss the stuff so far with him. __________________

Jul 24, 2009, 03:02 AM	#13
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Re: Brother's computer died, rebuild time the thing with DDR3 vs DDR2 is that the bandwidth isnt that much different due to the memory controller needing a bit of work, DDR2 is just as good really..... __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jul 24, 2009, 11:52 PM	Thread Starter #14
IEMC Neighborhood screw up. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: MI, US Posts: 770 Rep Power: 55 System Specs	Re: Brother's computer died, rebuild time I'll take your word for it :P This is probably all null, as my brother is just RMAing the board. Turns out warranty was still in effect. Thanks anyhow, guys. I'll probably be asking again in a few months for myself when college starts. Cheers. __________________

Jul 25, 2009, 07:25 AM	#15
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Re: Brother's computer died, rebuild time lol cheers man __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!