HardwareHeaven.com

HardwareHeaven.com

Looking for the skin chooser?
 
 
  • Home

  • Hardware reviews

  • Articles

  • News

  • Tools

  • Gaming at HardwareHeaven

  • Forums

 

Go Back   HardwareHeaven.com > Forums > Hardware and Related Topics > Hardware Discussion & Support


Hardware Discussion & Support Discuss your computer - its components or ANY hardware, past/current/future you want, or ask our forum experts if you have a general problem with your hardware.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old Sep 13, 2009, 11:13 PM   #1
DriverHeaven Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 10
Rep Power: 0
ss87 is on a distinguished road

computer with replaced parts turn off by itself and doesnt boot until i wait hours!

Recently I replaced the motherboard, fan,hard disk, hard drive of my compaq pc after it spoiled.

A week later, i downloaded bittorent and dl movies and left it for 8 hrs.
The next morning, the computer got stuck because of nview( desktop toolbar) so i turned off the computer( by switching off the power supply) cos it wouldnt shut down.
After this, the computer wouldnt boot-it keeps getting stuck at the windows XP screen, so i inserted my recovery cd and restored the whole thing.
But the problem still persisted,but this time it reboots if i dont press anything at the screen which says " Start windows normally..start windows in safe mode, safe mode with networking...Then it counts down from 30 secs". If i wait for 30secs, the computer boots but if i press enter instead of waiting for 30sec at this screen, it doesnt boot - it gives me a stuck windows XP screen

Sometimes, if i switch off and on a couple of times OR if i wait for a few hours before switching it on, it BOOTS.
After that it is ok for a couple of hours...then it turns off suddenly..sometimes it even turns off after 20 mins...
After this i cannot reboot the computer at all no matter what I do.
Its def not overheating cos its not hot when i touch the thing..also i just replaced everything...

Anyways i can only reboot it if i turn on the computer after a couple of hours...and even then it doesnt start automatically...i have to switch on and off acouple of times for the " 30 secs countdown " screen to come up...

I have no idea whats wrong...I have used the recovery cd again..so for now its ok..but i think its a deeper problem...

Last edited by ss87; Sep 14, 2009 at 12:42 AM.
ss87 is offline   Reply With Quote


Old Sep 14, 2009, 12:47 AM   #2
HH's Asteroids' Dominator
 
BlueMak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki
Posts: 13,465
Rep Power: 349
BlueMak is godlike in his statusBlueMak is godlike in his statusBlueMak is godlike in his statusBlueMak is godlike in his statusBlueMak is godlike in his statusBlueMak is godlike in his statusBlueMak is godlike in his statusBlueMak is godlike in his statusBlueMak is godlike in his statusBlueMak is godlike in his statusBlueMak is godlike in his status
System Specs

Gold Member
Re: computer with replaced parts turn off by itself and doesnt boot until i wait hour

The next time it shows you the menu, choose the one that says Safe Mode. When Windows starts, check the hard drive that Windows is installed (usually C for errors. You can do that by right clicking on the icon of the hard drive, then click on properties, then tools then error checking, if I remember correctly.

You will get an option to check the surface (we want this) and auto repair (that too).
After you choose them and click ok, it should ask you if you want to reboot the system to do this, say yes.

What are the results of that?
__________________

The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis
This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm
Sic semper tyrannis.
BlueMak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 14, 2009, 01:16 AM   #3
HardwareHeaven Lover
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 119
Rep Power: 52
EZero is a jewel in the roughEZero is a jewel in the roughEZero is a jewel in the roughEZero is a jewel in the rough
System Specs

Re: computer with replaced parts turn off by itself and doesnt boot until i wait hour

Other things of interest might be the complete specs of the original PC and the new parts you replaced with. Just to see if there are any hardware incompatibilities such as CPU/mobo.

Also, seeing how you got a new harddrive to go with it, I'm assuming you reinstalled Windows XP? If you did, did you do it with a vanilla Windows XP CD or did you install from one of those "restore discs" that Compaq gave you when you bought your original computer?

Actually 1 other thing that popped into my mind while I was typing this was to check the voltages in the BIOS. For example, my current motherboard, if set on auto for RAM voltages, would only deliver 1.8v when the RAM itself is rated at 2.1v. When it was on auto my computer would randomly lock up. Once I manually set it it's been rock stable ever since.
EZero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 14, 2009, 02:35 AM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #4
DriverHeaven Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 10
Rep Power: 0
ss87 is on a distinguished road

Re: computer with replaced parts turn off by itself and doesnt boot until i wait hour

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueMak View Post
The next time it shows you the menu, choose the one that says Safe Mode. When Windows starts, check the hard drive that Windows is installed (usually C for errors. You can do that by right clicking on the icon of the hard drive, then click on properties, then tools then error checking, if I remember correctly.

You will get an option to check the surface (we want this) and auto repair (that too).
After you choose them and click ok, it should ask you if you want to reboot the system to do this, say yes.

What are the results of that?

i cant enter via safe mode at all....
after i click safe mode..the screen gives me a list of drivers?thats it...
ss87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 14, 2009, 02:40 AM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #5
DriverHeaven Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 10
Rep Power: 0
ss87 is on a distinguished road

Re: computer with replaced parts turn off by itself and doesnt boot until i wait hour

Quote:
Originally Posted by EZero View Post
Other things of interest might be the complete specs of the original PC and the new parts you replaced with. Just to see if there are any hardware incompatibilities such as CPU/mobo.

Also, seeing how you got a new harddrive to go with it, I'm assuming you reinstalled Windows XP? If you did, did you do it with a vanilla Windows XP CD or did you install from one of those "restore discs" that Compaq gave you when you bought your original computer?



Actually 1 other thing that popped into my mind while I was typing this was to check the voltages in the BIOS. For example, my current motherboard, if set on auto for RAM voltages, would only deliver 1.8v when the RAM itself is rated at 2.1v. When it was on auto my computer would randomly lock up. Once I manually set it it's been rock stable ever since.
I have warranty so the shop from which i bought it replaced everything and reinstalled the XP..im not sure how but i suspect it is a restore disk( but it comes with norton antivirus and stuff?)
ss87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 14, 2009, 02:42 AM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #6
DriverHeaven Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 10
Rep Power: 0
ss87 is on a distinguished road

Re: computer with replaced parts turn off by itself and doesnt boot until i wait hour

could it be a powersupply problem? i ve never replaced the power cable before..but as of now the computer has been running for 5 hours without turning off by itself...i think it will last a couple mre hrs before its back to its original state..
ss87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 14, 2009, 02:46 AM   #7
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Brisbane Australia
Posts: 183
Rep Power: 0
CitySlicker is just really niceCitySlicker is just really niceCitySlicker is just really niceCitySlicker is just really nice
System Specs

Re: computer with replaced parts turn off by itself and doesnt boot until i wait hour

sounds like they replaced the wrong parts - it's probably the psu!
CitySlicker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 14, 2009, 07:24 AM   #8
HardwareHeaven Lover
 
Earthmonger's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Sitting inside a cube of kickass.
Posts: 161
Rep Power: 36
Earthmonger has a brilliant futureEarthmonger has a brilliant futureEarthmonger has a brilliant futureEarthmonger has a brilliant futureEarthmonger has a brilliant futureEarthmonger has a brilliant futureEarthmonger has a brilliant futureEarthmonger has a brilliant futureEarthmonger has a brilliant futureEarthmonger has a brilliant futureEarthmonger has a brilliant future

Re: computer with replaced parts turn off by itself and doesnt boot until i wait hour

I had something similar happen to me several years ago. It turned out to be an overheating issue. Every time I exceeded the temperature threshold, the PC would turn off, and begin a one hour internal countdown. After that hour, it would boot normally, and the process would eventually repeat.

Next time it turns off, sniff your components.
Earthmonger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 14, 2009, 08:05 AM   #9
I can fart in 7 languages
 
Takaharu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: England, UK
Posts: 1,847
Rep Power: 110
Takaharu has a reputation beyond refuteTakaharu has a reputation beyond refuteTakaharu has a reputation beyond refuteTakaharu has a reputation beyond refuteTakaharu has a reputation beyond refuteTakaharu has a reputation beyond refuteTakaharu has a reputation beyond refuteTakaharu has a reputation beyond refuteTakaharu has a reputation beyond refuteTakaharu has a reputation beyond refuteTakaharu has a reputation beyond refute
System Specs

Re: computer with replaced parts turn off by itself and doesnt boot until i wait hour

If you want to check to see if it's an over-heating problem, pop into your BIOS and look for a hardware monitoring screen. Keep a watch of the temperatures for a few minutes and judge for yourself. Generally, unless the components are exceptionally hot (or if you can touch the component itself), you won't be able to feel temperatures very well with your hand.
Personally, I'd guess it's one of two things. Either it's a PSU issue - an insufficient PSU can boot your system but cut out if it's struggling too much - or a problem with your RAM - faulty sticks can cause all sorts of problems. If you have two (or more) sticks, try taking them out to leave one, changing where it's seated then t give you a few combinations. I've had this happen to quite a few computers where either the RAM was faulty or it wasn't properly compatible with the motherboard (right spec, conflicting make).
__________________
Time is Eternal, Life is not.

I don't get paid to know the answer, therefore I'm far more likely to give you a straight and honest answer.

Mods Rig, Box Mods Rig, Folding details
Takaharu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 14, 2009, 03:23 PM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #10
DriverHeaven Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 10
Rep Power: 0
ss87 is on a distinguished road

Re: computer with replaced parts turn off by itself and doesnt boot until i wait hour

ah..ok..i ve asked the repair ppl to come again...everytime i shutdown and boot again or if i restart..it doesnt boot at all...anyways, how do i check the bios thing?
Thanks!
ss87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 14, 2009, 03:33 PM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #11
DriverHeaven Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 10
Rep Power: 0
ss87 is on a distinguished road

Re: computer with replaced parts turn off by itself and doesnt boot until i wait hour

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueMak View Post
The next time it shows you the menu, choose the one that says Safe Mode. When Windows starts, check the hard drive that Windows is installed (usually C for errors. You can do that by right clicking on the icon of the hard drive, then click on properties, then tools then error checking, if I remember correctly.

You will get an option to check the surface (we want this) and auto repair (that too).
After you choose them and click ok, it should ask you if you want to reboot the system to do this, say yes.

What are the results of that?
tried the error checking also..but after that computer wouldnt boot up..!is it an overheating issue if it doesnt boot up even after 2-3 hours of shutdown time?thx!
ss87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 14, 2009, 03:42 PM   #12
HH's Asteroids' Dominator
 
BlueMak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki
Posts: 13,465
Rep Power: 349
BlueMak is godlike in his statusBlueMak is godlike in his statusBlueMak is godlike in his statusBlueMak is godlike in his statusBlueMak is godlike in his statusBlueMak is godlike in his statusBlueMak is godlike in his statusBlueMak is godlike in his statusBlueMak is godlike in his statusBlueMak is godlike in his statusBlueMak is godlike in his status
System Specs

Gold Member
Re: computer with replaced parts turn off by itself and doesnt boot until i wait hour

It could be anything, including over heating. Since you will have techs coming home, that's good.
__________________

The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis
This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm
Sic semper tyrannis.
BlueMak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 14, 2009, 09:06 PM   #13
I can fart in 7 languages
 
Takaharu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: England, UK
Posts: 1,847
Rep Power: 110
Takaharu has a reputation beyond refuteTakaharu has a reputation beyond refuteTakaharu has a reputation beyond refuteTakaharu has a reputation beyond refuteTakaharu has a reputation beyond refuteTakaharu has a reputation beyond refuteTakaharu has a reputation beyond refuteTakaharu has a reputation beyond refuteTakaharu has a reputation beyond refuteTakaharu has a reputation beyond refuteTakaharu has a reputation beyond refute
System Specs

Re: computer with replaced parts turn off by itself and doesnt boot until i wait hour

Quote:
Originally Posted by ss87 View Post
ah..ok..i ve asked the repair ppl to come again...everytime i shutdown and boot again or if i restart..it doesnt boot at all...anyways, how do i check the bios thing?
Thanks!
When you first power on your PC you should either have a brief description or a logo for your motherboard, with something along the lines of <DEL> Setup - just hit the delete key at this point and you should be presented with a blue screen for your BIOS. With ASUS motherboards, for example, you'll have a "Power" tab at the top - pop into that tab and there'll be "Hardware Monitor" down the bottom of the screen. Open that up and you'll be able to see your temperatures.
ASUS is just one example though. If, when you enter the BIOS, you don't feel comfortable scouting around trying to look for the temperatures, either post back telling us what motherboard you have (or describe what options are on screen) or you can just leave it; nobody's going to hold it against you if you're uncomfortable routing around in the GUI for your motherboard's firmware.
__________________
Time is Eternal, Life is not.

I don't get paid to know the answer, therefore I'm far more likely to give you a straight and honest answer.

Mods Rig, Box Mods Rig, Folding details
Takaharu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 15, 2009, 12:08 AM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #14
DriverHeaven Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 10
Rep Power: 0
ss87 is on a distinguished road

Re: computer with replaced parts turn off by itself and doesnt boot until i wait hour

doing this sure feels weird..20 mins allocated every 8 hrs to use the net!
im having withdrawal symptoms!
ss87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 15, 2009, 06:03 AM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #15
DriverHeaven Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 10
Rep Power: 0
ss87 is on a distinguished road

Re: computer with replaced parts turn off by itself and doesnt boot until i wait hour

Temp was 62C when it shut down...the bios screen also says : WARNING :Please clear CMOS if system no display after overclocking.
ss87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 15, 2009, 06:16 AM   #16
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Brisbane Australia
Posts: 183
Rep Power: 0
CitySlicker is just really niceCitySlicker is just really niceCitySlicker is just really niceCitySlicker is just really nice
System Specs

Re: computer with replaced parts turn off by itself and doesnt boot until i wait hour

62C is too much if that is CPU temp?

get more air into the case or maybe the heatsink is not making proper contact
CitySlicker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 15, 2009, 07:56 AM   #17
I can fart in 7 languages
 
Takaharu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: England, UK
Posts: 1,847
Rep Power: 110
Takaharu has a reputation beyond refuteTakaharu has a reputation beyond refuteTakaharu has a reputation beyond refuteTakaharu has a reputation beyond refuteTakaharu has a reputation beyond refuteTakaharu has a reputation beyond refuteTakaharu has a reputation beyond refuteTakaharu has a reputation beyond refuteTakaharu has a reputation beyond refuteTakaharu has a reputation beyond refuteTakaharu has a reputation beyond refute
System Specs

Re: computer with replaced parts turn off by itself and doesnt boot until i wait hour

When you're in the BIOS, go to the Exit section or, if you don't have an Exit tab, locate the option marked "Load Setup Defaults". It's not a guaranteed fix but if there are any incorrect settings on the motherboard it will reset all the options to default.
What might be happening is that your motherboard's over-heating setting is set too low so when the processor tips over 60C (as CitySlicker said, possibly due to the fan not being connected properly) it forcefully shuts down the system. I haven't ever had this happen to me, mind you, so I could very well be wrong about that assumption.
__________________
Time is Eternal, Life is not.

I don't get paid to know the answer, therefore I'm far more likely to give you a straight and honest answer.

Mods Rig, Box Mods Rig, Folding details
Takaharu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 15, 2009, 10:58 AM   #18
HardwareHeaven Extreme Member
 
Tipstaff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Real capital of Canada: Torauna
Posts: 6,773
Rep Power: 190
Tipstaff is godlike in his statusTipstaff is godlike in his statusTipstaff is godlike in his statusTipstaff is godlike in his statusTipstaff is godlike in his statusTipstaff is godlike in his statusTipstaff is godlike in his statusTipstaff is godlike in his statusTipstaff is godlike in his statusTipstaff is godlike in his statusTipstaff is godlike in his status
System Specs

Gold Member
Re: computer with replaced parts turn off by itself and doesnt boot until i wait hour

Guys, maybe we should find out what the system specs are? It's one thing to say the temps given off by the CPU seem too high, but then again it is quite a normal temp for some CPUs under load, such as later releases of Pentium 4s, or even a Phenom X4 9850.

BTW, ss87, you asked about it possibly being the PSU (which would be a yes, btw), but you haven't said if you've ruled that out yet. Have you tried a different PSU to see if it was the culprit?
__________________


Portal: The Flash Version
_________________________________
Brain: So, you sacked the cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker?
Mr. Sackett: The second cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker I've sacked since the sixth sitting sheet slitter got sick.
Tipstaff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 15, 2009, 12:03 PM   #19
Now In Color :D
 
GigaWatt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Macedonia, Skopje
Posts: 2,116
Rep Power: 81
GigaWatt has a reputation beyond refuteGigaWatt has a reputation beyond refuteGigaWatt has a reputation beyond refuteGigaWatt has a reputation beyond refuteGigaWatt has a reputation beyond refuteGigaWatt has a reputation beyond refuteGigaWatt has a reputation beyond refuteGigaWatt has a reputation beyond refuteGigaWatt has a reputation beyond refuteGigaWatt has a reputation beyond refuteGigaWatt has a reputation beyond refute
System Specs

Re: computer with replaced parts turn off by itself and doesnt boot until i wait hour

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tipstaff View Post
Guys, maybe we should find out what the system specs are? It's one thing to say the temps given off by the CPU seem too high, but then again it is quite a normal temp for some CPUs under load, such as later releases of Pentium 4s, or even a Phenom X4 9850.
true, my CPU can raise up to 80 under load... idle 40, 45...
__________________
It's not schisophrenia... it's just a voice in my head...
GigaWatt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 15, 2009, 03:21 PM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #20
DriverHeaven Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 10
Rep Power: 0
ss87 is on a distinguished road

Re: computer with replaced parts turn off by itself and doesnt boot until i wait hour

not yet.However I think I ll ask the technician about that later?
I am just puzzled the computer goes awry in just a week..and every single part was replaced..it might be uncompatible of course and this problem started after i left the comp on one day for a overnight..
But how do we know if the parts are not compatible?
ss87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 20, 2009, 03:16 AM   #21
HardwareHeaven Lover
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 119
Rep Power: 52
EZero is a jewel in the roughEZero is a jewel in the roughEZero is a jewel in the roughEZero is a jewel in the rough
System Specs

Re: computer with replaced parts turn off by itself and doesnt boot until i wait hour

Well for starters post your system specs and list them here. At the very least google up CPUID and run it and give us the CPU and the motherboard info from there.

Also computers going awry randomly isn't very rare. I know someone who bought an Asus core i7 from Bestbuy brand new and it would randomly shut down. Say what you will about Bestbuy but at least it was a reputable brand (Asus) and not a bottom rung computer from Gateway or something.
EZero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 24, 2009, 05:46 AM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #22
DriverHeaven Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 10
Rep Power: 0
ss87 is on a distinguished road

Re: computer with replaced parts turn off by itself and doesnt boot until i wait hour

it seems the fan was not attached properly, so the computer shut down whenever the system overheat...replaced fan, so everythings fine now!
thanks guys!
ss87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 24, 2009, 11:47 PM   #23
HardwareHeaven Extreme Member
 
Tipstaff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Real capital of Canada: Torauna
Posts: 6,773
Rep Power: 190
Tipstaff is godlike in his statusTipstaff is godlike in his statusTipstaff is godlike in his statusTipstaff is godlike in his statusTipstaff is godlike in his statusTipstaff is godlike in his statusTipstaff is godlike in his statusTipstaff is godlike in his statusTipstaff is godlike in his statusTipstaff is godlike in his statusTipstaff is godlike in his status
System Specs

Gold Member
Re: computer with replaced parts turn off by itself and doesnt boot until i wait hour

Glad you got it sorted.
__________________


Portal: The Flash Version
_________________________________
Brain: So, you sacked the cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker?
Mr. Sackett: The second cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker I've sacked since the sixth sitting sheet slitter got sick.
Tipstaff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 27, 2009, 12:40 PM   #24
incognito
 
charm_quark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: BoTsWaNa
Posts: 2,437
Rep Power: 140
charm_quark is godlike in his statuscharm_quark is godlike in his statuscharm_quark is godlike in his statuscharm_quark is godlike in his statuscharm_quark is godlike in his statuscharm_quark is godlike in his statuscharm_quark is godlike in his statuscharm_quark is godlike in his statuscharm_quark is godlike in his statuscharm_quark is godlike in his statuscharm_quark is godlike in his status

Re: computer with replaced parts turn off by itself and doesnt boot until i wait hour

lol! a wild goose chase just because of a loose fan!
__________________
Three quarks for Muster Mark!
Sure he has not got much of a bark
And sure any he has it's all beside the mark.
—James Joyce, Finnegans Wake
charm_quark is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools