Cheap build

Dybdal · Nov 5, 2009, 07:20 PM

Hi guys. Thanks for all the help. Im going dual core.

Iwe gotten a core 2 duo e 6550 for under 80 $, a 8800gtx for under 80 $

Both used..

Im planning on getting another 8800gtx for sli, at the same price or a little higher.

for ram im going with a 800 mhz mushkin 2x2gb kit priced at 70$.

The question is what mobo, im gonna get.
Im standing between ASUS P5N-E SLI or ASRock N7AD-SLI.?

Bolletje · Nov 5, 2009, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dybdal

Hi guys. Thanks for all the help. Im going dual core.

Iwe gotten a core 2 duo e 6550 for under 80 $, a 8800gtx for under 80 $

Both used..

Im planning on getting another 8800gtx for sli, at the same price or a little higher.

for ram im going with a 800 mhz mushkin 2x2gb kit priced at 70$.

The question is what mobo, im gonna get.
Im standing between ASUS P5N-E SLI or ASRock N7AD-SLI.?

Don't get a 650i. This is really a bad choice.

Why have you spend that much money on old hardware? You should better got an Sempron 140 which is unlockable and a cheap 780G board.

Dybdal · Nov 5, 2009, 08:01 PM

Sempron?? Why?

And a sempron costs 60 $ here in denmark?

and on a 780g i cant sli.

Bolletje · Nov 5, 2009, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dybdal

Sempron?? Why?

And a sempron costs 60 $ here in denmark?

and on a 780g i cant sli.

Because you can unlock it

I know about the SLI, but for 8800GTX's in SLI you still need a good PSU. So you may want to upgrade your PSU (or did I've missed something?)

And the only good SLI motherboards have a high price. 650i has two 8x PCIe 1.x ports when you enable SLI. That's a real downside because you miss a lot of performance.

Dybdal · Nov 5, 2009, 08:16 PM

I wont be buying the second 8800gtx emidiatly, and i couldn't resist the 8800gtx, i bought it from one of my friends, and i got it for about half the price than they normally go by used, in DK. I might actually earn on it by selling again. But aint gonna do that.

And the core 2 duo is half price of what it cost at the retailers here.

Bolletje · Nov 5, 2009, 08:31 PM

At least you are happy with it, that's one thing

You know that the failing ratio of the 8800GTX is really high? A lot of cards are falling like dead birds from the sky (

) So the chance is big that you can't get a good GTX anymore by then.

As for the motherboard: a G31 chipset bases motherboard is really good. I have one and you have a lot of functions. Only 1 PCI-e slot, so you can't add another 8800GTX, but the price is often really low.

Don't get me wrong, it's not that bad stuff, but maybe you should get better.

I don't really know the prices in DK so it's hard to make decesions :P

Dybdal · Nov 5, 2009, 08:38 PM

The g31 mobo's vary from 50 $ to 150$

Bolletje · Nov 5, 2009, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dybdal

The g31 mobo's vary from 50 $ to 150$

And other boards? Like G41, P43, 650i, 750i?

Dybdal · Nov 5, 2009, 08:55 PM

the asrock n7ad-sli is 100$. the Asus P5n-e is like 105 $ or something. There are only 2 p41 and they are just above 80 $. and 2 650i one at 120 $ and one just short of 300 $. The 750i is between 120$ and 160 $.

I just saw the EVGA nForce 750i SLI FTW. it costs 160 $. I might just have fallen in love.!!:P

Bolletje · Nov 5, 2009, 09:12 PM

Well fact is that a 750i is better choice in this situation. Although also a 8x/8x configuration during SLI mode this board has PCI-e 2.0. So you don't really have bandwith loss, which comes in handy

I should pick the 750i if I were you (and if you want to add another 8800GTX later)

On a sidenote: When you're running two 8800GTX's then your CPU (E6550) is really a bottleneck. So you may want to overclock it.

Dybdal · Nov 5, 2009, 09:16 PM

Im also going to overclock it, but only the amount i can get with stock cooling.

Bolletje · Nov 5, 2009, 10:21 PM

Oo, ok. Nice

Keep us informed and maybe you and post some pictures when you have your setup

?

Dybdal · Nov 5, 2009, 10:31 PM

Ill do. :P but there will be some time until i have all the parts.

Dybdal · Nov 10, 2009, 11:53 AM

Hi.

I have just gotten some new options. I might be able to sell the core 2 duo for nearly 85 $, so in order to save money im considering to go amd.

Im thinking of going with the Asus M4n72-e mobo and buying a sempron 140 and unlocking it. That would be a fair deal cheaper and might perform better.

Whats your opinion on this??

IvanV · Nov 10, 2009, 04:01 PM

I wouldn't do it. Even successfully unlocked, the Sempron wouldn't be much faster than the E6550 you already have.

SeraphicSorcerer · Nov 10, 2009, 04:20 PM

What about the New Athlon chip?

I guess I don't see where your pricing range is varies, So I don't really know how to suggest options, but Core 2 duos are really becoming obsolete, so I recommend future proofing as much as possible....

Optix · Nov 10, 2009, 06:43 PM

$100 will net you an Athlon II X4 620. Yum!

You can pick up an AM2+ 790 Gigabyte board and the above chip for a little over $200.

As for the P5N-E SLI, I'm running it right now and it's kind of picky. It wouldn't post because it didn't like my memory and then all of a sudden did after resigning myself to an RMA. It also runs VERY hot. I have active cooling on the northbridge and I still can hardly touch it.

It's a good budget board but you'll hit an overclocking wall because of the board, not the chip.

My poor little E2180. It tops out at 3Ghz no matter what I do and I know it has more love to give but no way to give it.

Dybdal · Nov 10, 2009, 10:24 PM

What do you think about the board i picked? I've read a review ón it and they said it was good.

Any as for any suggestions, it has to be able to do sli and as cheap as possible but still within reasonable performance.

moshpit · Nov 10, 2009, 10:59 PM

SLI on AMD boards is becoming rarer and rarer now. Is there even any recent SLI capable AM3 motherboards? I think you're mostly limited to Crossfire for multi-GPU choices on AMD boards nowadays.

Dybdal · Nov 11, 2009, 03:29 PM

Here in dk the cheapest athlon II x2 cost 77 $, the cheapest Athlon II x3 costs 98 $, and the cheapest athlon II x4 costs 130 $. thats all with out shipping.

ftd86 · Nov 13, 2009, 05:29 AM

I just put together an $800 gaming beast that I plan on building this Christmas. The Specs are:

Case: Thermaltake VF1000BWS
Motherboard: MSI GF61M-P33
Graphics Card: XFX Radeon 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB
Power Supply: Thermaltake Black Widow W0319RU 850WATT
Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 Black Edition 3.2GHz Quad Core
RAM: 4GB OCZ Reaper HPC
Hardrive: Western Digital Caviar WD5001AALS 500GB 7200RPM SATA
CPU Cooler: Corsair Cooling Hydro Series CWCH50-1 120MM High Performance

Nov 5, 2009, 07:20 PM	Thread Starter #31
Dybdal HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Aarhus, Dk Posts: 234 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: Cheap build Hi guys. Thanks for all the help. Im going dual core. Iwe gotten a core 2 duo e 6550 for under 80 $, a 8800gtx for under 80 $ Both used.. Im planning on getting another 8800gtx for sli, at the same price or a little higher. for ram im going with a 800 mhz mushkin 2x2gb kit priced at 70$. The question is what mobo, im gonna get. Im standing between ASUS P5N-E SLI or ASRock N7AD-SLI.? __________________ Im a Danish hardwareheaven addict. Best stable overclock done:

Nov 5, 2009, 08:01 PM	Thread Starter #33
Dybdal HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Aarhus, Dk Posts: 234 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: Cheap build Sempron?? Why? And a sempron costs 60 $ here in denmark? and on a 780g i cant sli. __________________ Im a Danish hardwareheaven addict. Best stable overclock done:

Nov 5, 2009, 08:16 PM	Thread Starter #35
Dybdal HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Aarhus, Dk Posts: 234 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: Cheap build I wont be buying the second 8800gtx emidiatly, and i couldn't resist the 8800gtx, i bought it from one of my friends, and i got it for about half the price than they normally go by used, in DK. I might actually earn on it by selling again. But aint gonna do that. And the core 2 duo is half price of what it cost at the retailers here. __________________ Im a Danish hardwareheaven addict. Best stable overclock done:

Nov 5, 2009, 08:31 PM	#36
Bolletje HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,224 Rep Power: 79 System Specs	Re: Cheap build At least you are happy with it, that's one thing You know that the failing ratio of the 8800GTX is really high? A lot of cards are falling like dead birds from the sky () So the chance is big that you can't get a good GTX anymore by then. As for the motherboard: a G31 chipset bases motherboard is really good. I have one and you have a lot of functions. Only 1 PCI-e slot, so you can't add another 8800GTX, but the price is often really low. Don't get me wrong, it's not that bad stuff, but maybe you should get better. I don't really know the prices in DK so it's hard to make decesions :P

Nov 5, 2009, 08:38 PM	Thread Starter #37
Dybdal HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Aarhus, Dk Posts: 234 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: Cheap build The g31 mobo's vary from 50 $ to 150$ __________________ Im a Danish hardwareheaven addict. Best stable overclock done:

Nov 5, 2009, 08:55 PM	Thread Starter #39
Dybdal HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Aarhus, Dk Posts: 234 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: Cheap build the asrock n7ad-sli is 100$. the Asus P5n-e is like 105 $ or something. There are only 2 p41 and they are just above 80 $. and 2 650i one at 120 $ and one just short of 300 $. The 750i is between 120$ and 160 $. I just saw the EVGA nForce 750i SLI FTW. it costs 160 $. I might just have fallen in love.!!:P __________________ Im a Danish hardwareheaven addict. Best stable overclock done:

Nov 5, 2009, 09:12 PM	#40
Bolletje HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,224 Rep Power: 79 System Specs	Re: Cheap build Well fact is that a 750i is better choice in this situation. Although also a 8x/8x configuration during SLI mode this board has PCI-e 2.0. So you don't really have bandwith loss, which comes in handy I should pick the 750i if I were you (and if you want to add another 8800GTX later) On a sidenote: When you're running two 8800GTX's then your CPU (E6550) is really a bottleneck. So you may want to overclock it.

Nov 5, 2009, 09:16 PM	Thread Starter #41
Dybdal HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Aarhus, Dk Posts: 234 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: Cheap build Im also going to overclock it, but only the amount i can get with stock cooling. __________________ Im a Danish hardwareheaven addict. Best stable overclock done:

Nov 5, 2009, 10:21 PM	#42
Bolletje HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,224 Rep Power: 79 System Specs	Re: Cheap build Oo, ok. Nice Keep us informed and maybe you and post some pictures when you have your setup ?

Nov 5, 2009, 10:31 PM	Thread Starter #43
Dybdal HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Aarhus, Dk Posts: 234 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: Cheap build Ill do. :P but there will be some time until i have all the parts. __________________ Im a Danish hardwareheaven addict. Best stable overclock done:

Nov 10, 2009, 11:53 AM	Thread Starter #44
Dybdal HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Aarhus, Dk Posts: 234 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: Cheap build Hi. I have just gotten some new options. I might be able to sell the core 2 duo for nearly 85 $, so in order to save money im considering to go amd. Im thinking of going with the Asus M4n72-e mobo and buying a sempron 140 and unlocking it. That would be a fair deal cheaper and might perform better. Whats your opinion on this?? __________________ Im a Danish hardwareheaven addict. Best stable overclock done:

Nov 10, 2009, 04:01 PM	#45
IvanV HH Assassin Guild Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,914 Rep Power: 333 System Specs	Re: Cheap build I wouldn't do it. Even successfully unlocked, the Sempron wouldn't be much faster than the E6550 you already have. __________________ If anyone has Portal 2 and hasn't played the co-op and wants to do me a favour, let me know (PM me or whatever).

Nov 10, 2009, 04:20 PM	#46
SeraphicSorcerer HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 2,295 Rep Power: 156 System Specs	Re: Cheap build What about the New Athlon chip? I guess I don't see where your pricing range is varies, So I don't really know how to suggest options, but Core 2 duos are really becoming obsolete, so I recommend future proofing as much as possible.... __________________

Nov 10, 2009, 10:24 PM	Thread Starter #48
Dybdal HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Aarhus, Dk Posts: 234 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: Cheap build What do you think about the board i picked? I've read a review ón it and they said it was good. Any as for any suggestions, it has to be able to do sli and as cheap as possible but still within reasonable performance. __________________ Im a Danish hardwareheaven addict. Best stable overclock done:

Nov 10, 2009, 10:59 PM	#49
moshpit HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Pit, pit, pit, in the pit! Posts: 84 Rep Power: 57 System Specs	Re: Cheap build SLI on AMD boards is becoming rarer and rarer now. Is there even any recent SLI capable AM3 motherboards? I think you're mostly limited to Crossfire for multi-GPU choices on AMD boards nowadays. __________________ Ci7 2600K @5Ghz/8Gb Crucial Ballistix Tracer/Asus Sabertooth P67/EVGA GTX580 Black Ops/2x Patriot Torqx 128G(OS)/1Tb WD Black Ci7 920/6Gb Corsair DDR3 1600/GA-EX58-UD3R/Radeon HD5870/750Gb Seagate ES.2(OS)/2x 2Tb WD Green Ci7 860/8Gb Patriot Viper II/EVGA P55 SLI/Radeon HD5870/750Gb Seagate ES.2 (wife's rig)

Nov 11, 2009, 03:29 PM	Thread Starter #50
Dybdal HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Aarhus, Dk Posts: 234 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: Cheap build Here in dk the cheapest athlon II x2 cost 77 $, the cheapest Athlon II x3 costs 98 $, and the cheapest athlon II x4 costs 130 $. thats all with out shipping. __________________ Im a Danish hardwareheaven addict. Best stable overclock done:

Nov 13, 2009, 05:29 AM	#51
ftd86 HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 60 Rep Power: 0	Re: Cheap build I just put together an $800 gaming beast that I plan on building this Christmas. The Specs are: Case: Thermaltake VF1000BWS Motherboard: MSI GF61M-P33 Graphics Card: XFX Radeon 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB Power Supply: Thermaltake Black Widow W0319RU 850WATT Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 Black Edition 3.2GHz Quad Core RAM: 4GB OCZ Reaper HPC Hardrive: Western Digital Caviar WD5001AALS 500GB 7200RPM SATA CPU Cooler: Corsair Cooling Hydro Series CWCH50-1 120MM High Performance