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Old Nov 13, 2009, 11:23 AM   #1
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??? Need advice on new station purchase.

Hello, I am buying new gaming pc with budget around 1500$.
I don't know pretty much about hardware so I need advice on power supply, coolers and gpu.
1. i want quiet system so i can sleep in same room while it working.
here is the system
2. fast gpu for games i mainly play bf2:
* prices on list are in NIS currency 1$=3.8nis




Quote:
  1. cpu: Core i7 920, s1366, 8MB
  2. cooler [advice needed]: Thermaltake V1 AX 110mm Blue Led CPU CL-P0508
  3. gpu[advice needed]: ‏GTS 250 512MB GDDR3 DX10 HDTV 2xDVI PCI-E‎
  4. Mother boad: GIGABYTE EX58-UD3R s1366 Core i7, Intel X58, DDR3 2000+, 3xPCI-E
  5. ram: DDR III 1600Mhz 3x2GB Patriot Extreme Performance Triple Channel
  6. hd: Hitachi DeskStar 500GB 7200RPM 16MB SATA II
  7. sound card: On Board 7.1 Channel Audio
  8. cdrom: LG DVD±RW GH22LS50 x22 Black LightScribe Sata Retail
  9. lan: On Board 10/100/1000
  10. case: CoolerMaster CM 690 Black (No PSU)
  11. psu [advice needed]: Thermaltake ToughPower W0103 600W PFC (24pin)
price: 1478$
Questions:
1. which gpu is best for gaming under 200$=760 nis from following list:
Quote:
prices are in nis currency 1 $ = 3.8 nis




ASUS
  • 9400GT Silent 512MB GDDR2 DX10 DVI HDMI PCI-E 250
  • GT210 512MB GDDR2 DVI HDMI PCI-E 295
  • 9400GT 1GB GDDR2 DX10 DVI HDMI PCI-E 299
  • 9500GT Magic 512MB GDDR2 DX10 HDTV 2xDVI PCI-E 360
  • 9500GT 1GB GDDR2 DX10 HDTV HDMI DVI PCI-E 2.0 420
  • GT220 1GB GDDR2 DVI HDMI PCI-E 410
  • GTS 250 DK 1GB GDDR3 DX10 HDTV DVI PCI-E 800
  • GTX260 896MB GDDR3 DX10 HDTV 2xDVI PCI-E 2.0 900
  • GTX 295 1792MB GDDR3 DX10 HDTV 2xDVI HDMI PCI-E 2550
  • HD 4350 Silent 512MB GDDR2 DX10.1 HDTV DVI HDMI PCI-E 225
  • HD 4550 512MB GDDR3 DX10.1 HDTV DVI HDMI PCI-E 290
  • HD 4670 512MB GDDR3 DX10.1 HDTV DVI HDMI PCI-E 435
  • HD 4770 512MB GDDR5 DX10.1 HDTV 2xDVI PCI-E 2.0 620
  • HD 4850 1GB GDDR3 DX10.1 HDTV 2xDVI PCI-E 2.0 730
  • HD 4870 DK 1GB GDDR5 DX10.1 HDTV 2xDVI PCI-E 920
  • HD 4890 1GB GDDR5 DX10.1 HDTV 2xDVI PCI-E 1170
  • HD 5770 1GB GDDR5 DX11 2xDVI HDMI DP PCI-E 1050
eVGA
  • GTS 250 512MB GDDR3 DX10 HDTV 2xDVI PCI-E 640
  • GTX 275 896MB GDDR3 DX10 HDTV 2xDVI PCI-E 1190
GIGABYTE
  • HD 4350 512MB GDDR2 DX10.1 HDTV DVI HDMI PCI-E 195
  • HD 4550 512MB GDDR3 DX10.1 HDTV DVI HDMI PCI-E 270
  • HD 4650 OC 1GB GDDR2 DX10.1 HDTV DVI HDMI PCI-E 340
  • HD 4670 512MB GDDR3 DX10.1 HDTV DVI HDMI PCI-E 395
  • HD 4870 1GB GDDR5 DX10.1 HDTV 2xDVI PCI-E 900
  • HD 5750 1GB GDDR5 DX11 2xDVI HDMI DP PCI-E 860
  • HD 5870 1GB GDDR5 DX11 2xDVI HDMI DP PCI-E 2330
  • 9400GT 512MB GDDR2 DX10 HDTV DVI PCI-E 250
  • 9400GT 1GB GDDR2 DX10 HDTV DVI HDMI PCI-E 320
  • GT210 512MB GDDR2 DVI HDMI PCI-E 270
  • 9500GT 512MB GDDR3 DX10 HDTV 2xDVI PCI-E 295
  • 9500GT 1GB GDDR2 DX10 HDTV HDMI DVI PCI-E 2.0 360
  • 9500GT 512MB GDDR3 DX10 HDTV HDMI DVI PCI-E 2.0 365
  • GT220 1GB GDDR3 DVI HDMI PCI-E GV-N220OC-1GI 430
  • GTS 250 1GB GDDR3 DX10 HDTV 2xDVI PCI-E 730
  • GTX 275 896MB GDDR3 DX10 HDTV 2xDVI PCI-E 1100
  • GTX 275 896MB GDDR3 DX10 DVI HDMI PCI-E 2.0 1170
  • GTX 295 1792MB GDDR3 DX10 HDTV 2xDVI PCI-E 2485
Sapphire
  • HD 3450 512MB GDDR2 DX10 DVI HDMI AGP 280
  • HD 3650 512MB GDDR2 DX10.1 DVI AGP 350
  • HD 3850 512MB GDDR3 DX10.1 2xDVI AGP 495
  • HD 4350 512MB (1G Hyper Memory) GDDR2 DX10.1 DVI HDMI PCI-E 190
  • HD 4550 512MB (1G Hyper Memory) GDDR3 DX10.1 DVI HDMI PCI-E 250
  • HD 4730 512MB GDDR5 DX10.1 DVI HDMI PCI-E 490
  • HD 4770 512MB GDDR5 DX10.1 HDTV DVI PCI-E 570
  • HD 4870 Vapor-X 1GB GDDR5 DX10.1 HDTV DVI HDMI PCI-E 930
  • HD 4890 Vapor-X 1GB GDDR5 DX10.1 HDTV DVI HDMI DP PCI-E 1195
  • HD 4870 X2 2GB GDDR5 DX10.1 HDTV 2xDVI PCI-E 1750
  • HD 5750 1GB GDDR5 DX11 2xDVI HDMI DP PCI-E 840
  • HD 5770 1GB GDDR5 DX11 2xDVI HDMI DP PCI-E 990
Zotac
  • GeForce 6200 256MB TV DVI AGP X8 230
  • 8400GS 512MB GDDR2 DX10 HDTV DVI PCI-E 180
  • GT210 Synergy Ed 512MB GDDR2 DX10.1 DVI HDMI PCI-E 240
  • 9400GT Synergy 1GB GDDR2 DX10 HDTV DVI PCI-E 260
  • 9400GT 1GB GDDR2 DX10 HDTV DVI PCI-E 280
  • 9500GT 512MB GDDR2 DX10 HDTV 2xDVI PCI-E 285
  • 9500GT Zone Edition Silent 512MB GDDR2 DX10 HDTV 300
  • 9500GT 1GB GDDR2 DX10 HDTV 2xDVI PCI-E 320
  • GT220 Synergy Ed 512MB GDDR2 DX10.1 DVI HDMI PCI-E 380
  • GT220 1GB GDDR3 DX10.1 DVI HDMI PCI-E 420
  • 9600GT Synergy 1GB GDDR3 DX10 HDTV DVI PCI-E 480
  • 9800GT Synergy 512MB GDDR3 DX10 HDTV 2xDVI PCI-E 560
  • 9800GT Synergy 1GB GDDR3 DX10 HDTV 2xDVI PCI-E 610
  • GTS 250 512MB GDDR3 DX10 HDTV 2xDVI PCI-E 610
  • GTX 260 Synergy 896MB GDDR3 DX10 HDTV DVI PCI-E 790
  • GTX 260 (216 Core) 896MB GDDR3 DX10 HDTV 2xDVI PCI-E 955
PNY
  • Quadro FX 580 512MB GDDR3 DX10 2xDisplayPort DVI PCI-E 950
  • Quadro FX 1800 768MB GDDR3 DX10 2xDisplayPort DVI PCI-E 2290
  • Quadro FX 3800 1GB GDDR3 DX10 2xDisplayPort DVI PCI-E 4440
2. psu and cooler, I want it to be quiet (not over 30db) and prices to fit the main price package around 5600nis=1470$:
  • Aviable psu list(prices in nis 3.8=1$):
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Golden Tiger

250W PSU, 8cm Fan 65
G-T 400W,8cm Fan (24pin) 80

400W Real, 12cm Fan (24pin) 95

450W Real, 12cm Fan (24pin) 145

550W Real, 12cm Fan (24pin) 185

SeaSonic

380W 80+ Bronze Active PFC 12cm Fan S12II-380 (Retail) 270

430W 80+ Bronze Active PFC 12cm Fan S12II-430 (Retail) 350

500W 80+ Bronze Active PFC 12cm Fan S12II-500 (Retail) 380

500W Modular 80+ Bronze Active PFC 12cm Fan M12II-500 (Retail) 435

650W 80+ Active PFC 12cm Fan SS-650HT (Retail) 505

750W Modular 80+ Silver Active PFC 12cm Fan M12D-750 (Retail) 770

Chieftec


450W Active PFC,80+, 14cm Fan, (24pin) 260

550W Active PFC, 12cm Fan (24pin) 310

550W Active PFC,80+, 14cm Fan, (24pin) 340

650W Active PFC, 12cm Fan (24pin) 400

650W Modular 14cm fan, Active PFC, (24pin) 450

650W Modular 14cm fan, Active PFC, 80+, (24pin) 480

750W Modular 14cm fan, Active PFC, (24pin) 530

Thermaltake
TR2 Power W0070 430W Silent (24pin) 230

TR2 Power W0101 550W Silent (24pin) 380

PurePower W0121 600W (24pin) 420

ToughPower W0103 600W PFC (24pin) 535

ToughPower W0116 750W PFC (24pin) 750

ToughPower W0133 1200W PFC (24pin) 1360

ToughPower W0156 1200W PFC (24pin) 1410

Hec
500TD-TF 500W 2x8cm fan 24pin 285

Cougar 550W 12 CM Ultra Quiet Fan Modular 455

Cougar 700W 12 CM Ultra Quiet Fan Modular 540

CoolerMaster
eXtreme Power Plus 500W 12cm Fan 250

eXtreme Power Plus 600W 12cm Fan 390

Silent Pro 500W Modular 13.5cm Fan 450

Silent Pro 600W Modular 13.5cm Fan 580

Corsair
VX 450W Active PFC 12cm Fan 385

HX 450W Active PFC 12cm Fan Modular 415

VX 550W Active PFC 12cm Fan 500

HX 520W Active PFC 12cm Fan Modular 550

HX 620W Active PFC 12cm Fan Modular 630

TX 650W Active PFC 12cm Fan 595

TX 750W Active PFC 12cm Fan 710

TX 850W Active PFC 12cm Fan 825

HX 1000W Active PFC 14cm Fan Modular 1230

Enermax
Tomahawk 405W Active PFC 12cm 245

Tomahawk 450W Active PFC 12cm 330

Tomahawk 500W Active PFC 12cm 380

ECO 80+ 400W Active PFC 12cm Fan PSU 355

ECO 80+ 500W Active PFC 12cm Fan PSU 425

ECO 80+ 620W Active PFC 12cm Fan PSU 530

MODU82+ 425W Active PFC 12cm Fan 430

MODU82+ 525W Active PFC 12cm Fan 550

MODU82+ 625W Active PFC 12cm Fan 695

PRO82+ 525W Active PFC 12cm Fan 520

PRO82+ 625W Active PFC 12cm Fan 650

Liberty ELT620AWT 620W 595

  • Aviable coolers list (same here to fit to main package price list) :
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3.8nis=1$
Arctic Cooling

Alpine 11 GT (s775,1156) 50

Alpine 11 Pro (s775,1156) 65

Alpine 11 (s775,1156) 50

Alpine 7 GT (s775) 55

Alpine 7 Pro (s775) 55

Alpine 7 (s775 ,754 ,939 ,AM2) 55

Copper Silent 3 CPU Fan For Socket A 55

Freezer 7 LP CPU Fan For s775 90

Alpine 64 Pro CPU Fan For s939,AM2,AM3 65

Freezer 64 LP CPU Fan For 754,939,AM2,AM3 95

Freezer 64 Pro (754, 939, AM2, AM3) 105

Freezer 7 Pro (LGA775) 120

Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 CPU Fan 120

Freezer Xtreme Rev.2 CPU Fan 200

Accelero L2 Pro VGA Cooler 80

Thermaltake

Ruby Orb Silent CL-P0391 155

Golden Orb II CL-P0220 155

Blue Orb II Silent CL-P0257 165

V1 AX 110mm Blue Led CPU CL-P0508 195

TMG iA1 CPU Heatpipe Cooler 170

SpinQ CPU Cylinder Heatsink Cooler CL-P0466 280

Zalman

ZM-F1 80cm Silent Case Fan 28

ZM-F2 92cm Silent Case Fan 35

ZM-F3 120mm Silent Case Fan 45

CNPS7500-Cu LED 165

CNPS9300 AT 210

CNPS9500A LED 245

CNPS9700 LED 279

CNPS10X Quiet 285

CNPS10X Extreme Blue LED 350

CNPS9900 Led 350

MFC-3 5.25'' Black Fan Controller 330

CoolerMaster

Cool Drive 6 - 5.25 Front Fan Controler+LCD, Aluminum Hdd Cooler 85

V8 CPU Cooler 270

V10 CPU Cooler 495

Scythe

Kaze Station 3.5 Front Panel USB 2.0,e-Sata,Fan Controller,Mic 120

Mugen II 5 Heat Pipes CPU Cooler 185

Scythe BIG Shuriken CPU Cooler 160

Ninja II Rev B 6 Heat Pipes CPU Cooler 180

Ninja Mini 6 Heat Pipes CPU Cooler 180

Generic

CPU Cooler For s775 40

CPU Cooler For s478 45

CPU Cooler For s1156 50

CPU Cooler For s1366 50

CPU Cooler For AM2/AM3 40

Evercool Buffalo CPU Cooler for Intel s1366 60
p.s. any advice is welcome anyway that the parts i got on local supply so tell me what is best choice for that budget and for gaming pc.
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Graphics card: Since you are buying a new gaming computer and you have a relatively large budget, I'd suggest going for some of ATI 5000 cards. They are the latest generation and the only ones at the moment which support DX11. The problem is that the cheapest one of them is slightly above your budget of 760nis, the one by Sapphire is 840 and Gigabyte's is 860. Still, you may want to consider them. Both manufacturers are fairly renown and you won't make a mistake with either. Out of the cards that fit your budget, I'd go for ATI 4850 by ASUS. It's roughly as fast as a 5750 when they run a game at the same settings, but it's a generation older, so it doesn't support DX11 (and it's also made with an older process so it uses more power). Nvidia's cards in that list are slightly overpriced, the only one worth any consideration is Zotac GTX 260at 790nis. Like 4850, it's DX10 only but it's decently powerful (though I think that the 4850 would be a slightly better choice). The GTS 250 is a much weaker card.

I have no idea how quiet the particular coolers and PSUs are, so I'll leave that to others.
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For the GPU , I recommend you spend other money and get one of 5xxx series for the DX11 support , better technology and less power consumption. The best one right now in performance/value is 5770 which in your list is 990 nis ( I recommend going with sapphire).

For the PSU I suggest crosair HX 620W or more watts
you can check DH review here http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/...620W/index.htm

As for the coolers me myself I would go with Zalman.

Another suggestion , if you didn't buy the HDD yet , I recommend going with WD Black caviar , I got one and I really liked the speed with no noise.

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Since you are saying that you want a good GAMING system, unless you absolutely HAVE to have an Intel CPU, you will get a better bang for the buck with AMD. Intel's ix CPUs do outperform the AMDs in certain applications, but for GAMING they are pretty much equal. A Phenom II 955 or 965 will give you as much, or more, performance in GAMING than the i7 920, and at a lower cost. Also, AMD motherboards tend to be a bit less costly as well.

For the PSU, unless you are going to be adding a 2nd card in Crossfire or SLI, and aren't going to be doing overclocking, I'd recommend the Corsair HX520. It's modular and will power that system with room to spare. One thing to remember about Corsair. They rate their PSUs at max CONTINUOUS output, and they also seem to under-rate them. Their "520" is equivalent to most 550s and even some 'lesser makers' 600-650s. If you still want more power then I'd suggest the TX650. It will do SLI/Crossfire if you want to do that. It's not modular, but the case you have selected has enough room in it to hide most of the cables.

For cooling the CPU, it wouldn't hurt to investigate the Corsair H50 if it's available there (I'm assuming that 'there' is Israel?). The H50 is competitive in pricing to the better air-coolers, and is pretty quiet as well.

For a GPU, I'd have to recommend the 5770, if you can find one. Very good price/performance, and a lower power requirement than the 4xxx series.
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thank for advices that is what i made from help i got. i think i gonna go for this.
5890=1562$
i think that is good for my budget
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  1. cpu: Core i5 750, s1156, 8MB Box
  2. cooler : zalman CNPS9500A LED
  3. gpu: asus ‏GTX260 896MB GDDR3 DX10 HDTV 2xDVI PCI-E 2.0‎
  4. Mother boad: asus P55D EVO s1156 Core i5/i7, Intel P55, DDR3 1600, 2xPCI-E
  5. ram: 3x2GB Mushkin XP Black Frostbyte Series Triple Channel
  6. hd: wd 1TB 7200RPM, 32MB, SATA II WD1001FALS
  7. sound card: Creative Audigy SE 7.1
  8. cdrom: DVD±RW GH22NS x22 Beige SATA
  9. lan: On Board 10/100/1000
  10. case: xclio Propeller ATX Mid Tower Black
  11. psu : Corsair HX 520W Active PFC 12cm Fan Modular
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Change RAM, you've chosen a triple-channel kit (which has three sticks), while socket 1156 motherboards and CPUs are dual-channel (so ideally you want 2 or 4 sticks).

Check to see if the cooler is socket 1136 compatible! It has been updated to add support for the socket, but you need to check if yours is an updated version as, being older than the socket, it originally lacked the mounting bracket for it. Otherwise, it's okay, I think that it should be fairly quiet (haven't had it myself) though it's not one of the highest performing (but decent enough).

The graphics card would not have been my personal choice, but it's good, just check if it's a 216SP model.

EDIT: A minor detail, make sure you get the case and the DVD drive in matching colours. I only saw the case in black on Google and the drive description you gave says beige.
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Besure to get WD black not the green one because they are slow and have many issues , about the case I didn't hear of it but this shouldn't be an issue.

For the Gpu you chose GTx 260 which is 900 nis from your list , I highly recommend you move up to
Sappire HD 5770 1GB GDDR5 DX11 2xDVI HDMI DP PCI-E 990
or down Sapphire 5750 which is 840. If I were you I would choose 5770 though.
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Re: Need advice on new station purchase.

updated from your tips
thanks , will check about the cooler and socket and hd is black caviar.

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  1. cpu: Core i5 750, s1156, 8MB Box
  2. MB: P7P55D s1156 Core i5/i7, Intel P55, DDR3 1600, 2xPCI-E
  3. ram: 2x2GB Mushkin XP Black Frostbyte Series Dual Channel
  4. gpu: HD 5750 1GB GDDR5 DX11 2xDVI HDMI DP PCI-E
  5. audio: C-Media CMI 7.1 (pci)
  6. hd: 1TB 7200RPM, 32MB, SATA II WD1001FALS
  7. dvd: DVD±RW GH22NS x22 Black SATA
  8. net: 10/100/1000
  9. cooler: zalman CNPS9500A LED
  10. case: Propeller ATX Mid Tower Black (No PSU)
  11. psu: HX 520W Active PFC 12cm Fan Modular
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