new build...

BlueMak · Feb 7, 2010, 01:58 PM

Unless there is zero air flow in the case, I just can't see how the card will reach those temps at 70% setting. Try 100%. If it continues, then it is probably a hardware fault (and if indeed you can hear the fan working that fast=extremely noisy). When I set it at 60% the card might reach 80C under full gaming session, but 108C no, something is wrong.

***Veridian3*** · Feb 7, 2010, 02:04 PM

Take the cooler off the card, apply some new thermal paste and make sure it is secured correctly. If that doesnt make a difference it must have been damaged in shipping, we will get it replaced for you with something comparible, if not identical.

comp_ali · Feb 7, 2010, 02:43 PM

I've already removed the two heat sinks and added more thermal paste , still no change. I will finally check the voltage at the 6pins and 8pins connector to make sure it doesn't overheat due to overvoltage .
Thanks Stu. This has been a serious headache.

A Desire to Game · Feb 7, 2010, 07:32 PM

Maybe the BIOS for the card is messed up? You can try reflashing it with the tutorial below. Did you install the ASUS SmartDoctor software to insure proper voltage?

Complete HD4870X2 vmod and biosflash. - XtremeSystems Forums (just below the pictures)

comp_ali · Feb 7, 2010, 08:50 PM

Thanks man , I am trying it now. I also have checked the voltages on the 6pins/8pins and it is almost static @ 12-11.9V

comp_ali · Feb 7, 2010, 10:06 PM

The link for bioses don't work , I'll contact Stu. and see what shall be done.

anonemus · Feb 7, 2010, 10:21 PM

I'm sure this will have a happy ending, comp

Cow_160483 · Feb 8, 2010, 05:25 AM

Sorry to hear all the trouble you are having bro

isaak · Feb 8, 2010, 09:17 AM

when it all gets fixed, i'm sure comp will be a very happy guy

good luck with it man

supafly · Feb 8, 2010, 09:18 AM

Persistence Pays dude never give up.

comp_ali · Feb 8, 2010, 01:31 PM

Thanks guys. I hope it will be a good ending.
I'll go on a 3-day volunteering mission on Wednesday in another city , I will miss you then.

Cow_160483 · Feb 8, 2010, 01:49 PM

have fun dude

SeraphicSorcerer · Feb 8, 2010, 04:14 PM

the only thing I can think is perhaps the Heatsink isnt making proper contact with the card. If your temps are still high, or the thermal grease on it is incredibly craptastic.

Are you comfortable checking that?

comp_ali · Feb 8, 2010, 04:35 PM

One heatsink gets really hot , it is the one over the gpu further from the fan , I think it is GPU 1 (right ?) , the other heatsink is not as hot as it.
I've added thermal paste to make sure it isn't cooling realated but still get the same issue.

IvanV · Feb 8, 2010, 10:19 PM

From what I recall (and it kind of makes sense), the GPU further from the fan does get hotter (it's being cooled by the air that has already been used to cool one of the GPUs). The thing is, though, that if you can reach close enough to the place where GPU and the heatsink make contact, you should find the heatsink too hot to touch. 60C is already quite uncomfortable if you try to hold your hand on the hot object for more than a couple of seconds, and 80C, I believe, causes burns.

isaak · Feb 9, 2010, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by IvanV

60C is already quite uncomfortable if you try to hold your hand on the hot object for more than a couple of seconds, and 80C, I believe, causes burns.

Yep. Learnt that in my barista course. 60*C is roughly when you have to take your hand off after a few seconds, and that's the perfect temp to serve your coffee.

In regards to the temperatures would it be worth investing in an aftermarket cooler?

iPlayer · Feb 9, 2010, 09:03 AM

^The after market coolers can help reduce the temperature lots, but you need a case with decent air flow.

Some 4870x2 could get well over 90 degrees, but I expected the model you got to run a bit cooler.

I would try 90% fan speed and maybe reseating that heatsink.

comp_ali · Feb 9, 2010, 12:13 PM

the sink was extremely hot , maybe 70-80c. I saw Zardon's review on the card and the temps were definitely better .

comp_ali · Mar 3, 2010, 05:08 PM

Good news , the new card arrived . It is the Asus one with Tri-fan . That's cool. Thanks HH and Stu

. Will post pics and feedback after some tests later

crowTrobot · Mar 3, 2010, 05:48 PM

Great news mate. Good luck with this one.

**MIG-31** · Mar 3, 2010, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comp_ali

Good news , the new card arrived . It is the Asus one with Tri-fan . That's cool. Thanks HH and Stu

. Will post pics and feedback after some tests later

Thats good to hear, and am pleased your now all sorted and happy.

Tyrsonswood · Mar 3, 2010, 08:06 PM

Right on, Man! this place is the greatest........ Let us know how it goes.

Are you still flogging that old case, or did you get better in the meantime?

comp_ali · Mar 3, 2010, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crowTrobot

Great news mate. Good luck with this one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIG-31

Thats good to hear, and am pleased your now all sorted and happy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrsonswood

Right on, Man! this place is the greatest........ Let us know how it goes.

Are you still flogging that old case, or did you get better in the meantime?

Thanks guys

. Yes I am still with this old ugly case until the 690 II arrives. No choices at the mean time.

pics of the card , will play later. The noise can hardly been heard and the temps are around 40 c at idle @ 60% fan speed. HH is an awesome place.

anonemus · Mar 4, 2010, 03:16 AM

Grats, comp_ali!

HH is really AWESOME!

press · Mar 4, 2010, 03:41 AM

So HH is just amazing, congrats man

Cow_160483 · Mar 4, 2010, 12:40 PM

cool got your replacement card

...GO HH....

comp_ali · Mar 4, 2010, 10:45 PM

Thanks , I 've played many games on this card , no crashes or heat issues so far. That's Great.

IvanV · Mar 4, 2010, 11:13 PM

That's really good to hear.

Feb 7, 2010, 01:58 PM	#181
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,465 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	Re: new build... Unless there is zero air flow in the case, I just can't see how the card will reach those temps at 70% setting. Try 100%. If it continues, then it is probably a hardware fault (and if indeed you can hear the fan working that fast=extremely noisy). When I set it at 60% the card might reach 80C under full gaming session, but 108C no, something is wrong. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Feb 7, 2010, 02:04 PM	#182
*Veridian3* Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cloaked Posts: 5,027 Rep Power: 181	Re: new build... Take the cooler off the card, apply some new thermal paste and make sure it is secured correctly. If that doesnt make a difference it must have been damaged in shipping, we will get it replaced for you with something comparible, if not identical.

Feb 7, 2010, 02:43 PM	Thread Starter #183
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 10,469 Rep Power: 339 System Specs	Re: new build... I've already removed the two heat sinks and added more thermal paste , still no change. I will finally check the voltage at the 6pins and 8pins connector to make sure it doesn't overheat due to overvoltage . Thanks Stu. This has been a serious headache.

Feb 7, 2010, 07:32 PM	#184
A Desire to Game HardwareHeaven Hoosier Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 296 Rep Power: 33 System Specs	Re: new build... Maybe the BIOS for the card is messed up? You can try reflashing it with the tutorial below. Did you install the ASUS SmartDoctor software to insure proper voltage? Complete HD4870X2 vmod and biosflash. - XtremeSystems Forums (just below the pictures) __________________ Three is my new favorite number. (SATA III, USB 3.0, and triple channel memory)

Feb 7, 2010, 08:50 PM	Thread Starter #185
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 10,469 Rep Power: 339 System Specs	Re: new build... Thanks man , I am trying it now. I also have checked the voltages on the 6pins/8pins and it is almost static @ 12-11.9V

Feb 7, 2010, 10:06 PM	Thread Starter #186
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 10,469 Rep Power: 339 System Specs	Re: new build... The link for bioses don't work , I'll contact Stu. and see what shall be done.

Feb 7, 2010, 10:21 PM	#187
anonemus 80 Plus Certified Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Philippines Posts: 989 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	Re: new build... I'm sure this will have a happy ending, comp

Feb 8, 2010, 05:25 AM	#188
Cow_160483 HH's only cow moooooo... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: BOTSWANA Posts: 6,817 Rep Power: 300 System Specs	Re: new build... Sorry to hear all the trouble you are having bro __________________ Decode! Muhahahahah!

Feb 8, 2010, 09:17 AM	#189
isaak HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 2,286 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	Re: new build... when it all gets fixed, i'm sure comp will be a very happy guy good luck with it man __________________ The first step... shall be to lose the way. - Galway Kinnell

Feb 8, 2010, 09:18 AM	#190
supafly HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Botswana Posts: 227 Rep Power: 43	Re: new build... Persistence Pays dude never give up. __________________ YO YO YO Waaaazaaaap Its Supafly

Feb 8, 2010, 01:31 PM	Thread Starter #191
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 10,469 Rep Power: 339 System Specs	Re: new build... Thanks guys. I hope it will be a good ending. I'll go on a 3-day volunteering mission on Wednesday in another city , I will miss you then.

Feb 8, 2010, 01:49 PM	#192
Cow_160483 HH's only cow moooooo... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: BOTSWANA Posts: 6,817 Rep Power: 300 System Specs	Re: new build... have fun dude __________________ Decode! Muhahahahah!

Feb 8, 2010, 04:14 PM	#193
SeraphicSorcerer HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 2,295 Rep Power: 156 System Specs	Re: new build... the only thing I can think is perhaps the Heatsink isnt making proper contact with the card. If your temps are still high, or the thermal grease on it is incredibly craptastic. Are you comfortable checking that? __________________

Feb 8, 2010, 04:35 PM	Thread Starter #194
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 10,469 Rep Power: 339 System Specs	Re: new build... One heatsink gets really hot , it is the one over the gpu further from the fan , I think it is GPU 1 (right ?) , the other heatsink is not as hot as it. I've added thermal paste to make sure it isn't cooling realated but still get the same issue.

Feb 8, 2010, 10:19 PM	#195
IvanV HH Assassin Guild Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,914 Rep Power: 333 System Specs	Re: new build... From what I recall (and it kind of makes sense), the GPU further from the fan does get hotter (it's being cooled by the air that has already been used to cool one of the GPUs). The thing is, though, that if you can reach close enough to the place where GPU and the heatsink make contact, you should find the heatsink too hot to touch. 60C is already quite uncomfortable if you try to hold your hand on the hot object for more than a couple of seconds, and 80C, I believe, causes burns. __________________ If anyone has Portal 2 and hasn't played the co-op and wants to do me a favour, let me know (PM me or whatever).

Feb 9, 2010, 09:03 AM	#197
iPlayer Filled with noobsauce Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: between the buns Posts: 1,450 Rep Power: 59	Re: new build... ^The after market coolers can help reduce the temperature lots, but you need a case with decent air flow. Some 4870x2 could get well over 90 degrees, but I expected the model you got to run a bit cooler. I would try 90% fan speed and maybe reseating that heatsink.

Feb 9, 2010, 12:13 PM	Thread Starter #198
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 10,469 Rep Power: 339 System Specs	Re: new build... the sink was extremely hot , maybe 70-80c. I saw Zardon's review on the card and the temps were definitely better .

Mar 3, 2010, 05:08 PM	Thread Starter #199
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 10,469 Rep Power: 339 System Specs	Re: new build... Good news , the new card arrived . It is the Asus one with Tri-fan . That's cool. Thanks HH and Stu . Will post pics and feedback after some tests later

Mar 3, 2010, 05:48 PM	#200
crowTrobot HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 699 Rep Power: 83 System Specs	Re: new build... Great news mate. Good luck with this one.

Mar 4, 2010, 03:16 AM	#204
anonemus 80 Plus Certified Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Philippines Posts: 989 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	Re: new build... Grats, comp_ali! HH is really AWESOME!

Mar 4, 2010, 03:41 AM	#205
press HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 163 Rep Power: 38 System Specs	Re: new build... So HH is just amazing, congrats man

Mar 4, 2010, 12:40 PM	#206
Cow_160483 HH's only cow moooooo... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: BOTSWANA Posts: 6,817 Rep Power: 300 System Specs	Re: new build... cool got your replacement card ...GO HH.... __________________ Decode! Muhahahahah!

Mar 4, 2010, 10:45 PM	Thread Starter #207
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 10,469 Rep Power: 339 System Specs	Re: new build... Thanks , I 've played many games on this card , no crashes or heat issues so far. That's Great.

Mar 4, 2010, 11:13 PM	#208
IvanV HH Assassin Guild Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,914 Rep Power: 333 System Specs	Re: new build... That's really good to hear. __________________ If anyone has Portal 2 and hasn't played the co-op and wants to do me a favour, let me know (PM me or whatever).