What would you buy?

anonemus · Feb 20, 2010, 01:05 PM

Wow, really yummy looking case!

Liqourice · Feb 20, 2010, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by comp_ali

That's awesome , man

The water cooling set doesn't have pipes for the card ?

The H50 is only ment for the CPU. The radiator isn't big enough for anything else as well.

A Desire to Game · Feb 20, 2010, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Liqourice

The H50 is only ment for the CPU. The radiator isn't big enough for anything else as well.

Right, I tried to mount it on the bottom on one of the 180mm but it didn't work out. The Raven supplied radiator brackets for the bottom fan but it didn't line up with the H50 and the H50 used a different screw size. So I may go that route again if I can get some screws or try the trusty zip tie method. Either way I'm hoping cooling the radiator with the only exhaust fan location in the case works out ok in a push/pull set up with the Silverstone and Corsair fan provided.

comp_ali · Feb 20, 2010, 06:20 PM

I have verified that the monitor originally doesn't came with a DVI-DVI cable from the manufacture .
Look at the pic "from the Monitor CD guide". Damn you Samsung !

Sorry to hijack your thread , Desire .

A Desire to Game · Feb 20, 2010, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by comp_ali

I have verified that the monitor originally doesn't came with a DVI-DVI cable from the manufacture .
Look at the pic "from the Monitor CD guide". Damn you Samsung !

Sorry to hijack your thread , Desire .

Dude thats pretty ridiculous. They can throw in a DVI/VGA but not DVI/DVI?! Sorry bout your luck.

CJLMTLCA · Feb 22, 2010, 04:15 PM

nice looking motherboard. i like the H50... i would def get that if i were to replace my cpu cooler and i like the layout of that case. fans blowing cool air from the bottom out the top, vertical hanging cards. nice setup, let us know how it performs cooling wise over time

A Desire to Game · Feb 23, 2010, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CJLMTLCA

nice looking motherboard. i like the H50... i would def get that if i were to replace my cpu cooler and i like the layout of that case. fans blowing cool air from the bottom out the top, vertical hanging cards. nice setup, let us know how it performs cooling wise over time

Will do. ASUS 5850 arrives tomorrow, I'll keep everyone updated.

Judas · Feb 23, 2010, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by comp_ali

I have verified that the monitor originally doesn't came with a DVI-DVI cable from the manufacture .
Look at the pic "from the Monitor CD guide". Damn you Samsung !

Sorry to hijack your thread , Desire .

wow.... i've never seen or heard of such a case.

i mean serious wtf.

i can understand this for business class monitors for the super low end.. but shit, a dvi-vga cable is kinda messed up

anonemus · Feb 23, 2010, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas

wow.... i've never seen or heard of such a case.

i mean serious wtf.

i can understand this for business class monitors for the super low end.. but shit, a dvi-vga cable is kinda messed up

When I bought my first LCD two years ago (a Viewsonic VG1930wm), it also came with just a VGA cable, even though the LCD had a DVI port.

Judas · Feb 23, 2010, 07:36 PM

Oh i know plenty of LCD's that come with only a VGA cable..... but a vga-dvi cable only....?

anonemus · Feb 24, 2010, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Judas

Oh i know plenty of LCD's that come with only a VGA cable..... but a vga-dvi cable only....?

Yikes! That's sick.

A Desire to Game · Feb 24, 2010, 02:08 PM

So I'm having difficulty getting Win 7 Ultimate x64 to install. When I try to do the clean install it tells me my key is invalid and that it is for the Upgrade. However, I know this is crap because I had used it for a clean install on my previous rig.

Now I have another problem. I decided that I would install Vista Ultimate x64 instead and do an upgrade from that. However, midway through the install it blue screened on me. I'm thinking its my RAM.

I'll give it a retry when I get home tonight. Any suggestions are more than welcome.

comp_ali · Feb 24, 2010, 02:28 PM

there is a trick to install Win7 upgrade disc as a clean install but I don't remember.
For the blue screen try:
1.remove all ram sticks and the motherboard battery.
2.wait a few minutes and install the ram again and tey to install the windows
3. If you still get the blue screen , install the dimms in different slots.
If all didn't work , we'll have to figure another solutions then.

CJLMTLCA · Feb 24, 2010, 02:37 PM

download memtest86+ v4.00 and see if you get any errors in the first pass.

A Desire to Game · Feb 24, 2010, 04:32 PM

I'll give the trusty memtest a try after work. I'm still not sure what I'm gonna do bout my Windows 7 disc. I have activated it once before on my wife's computer but I figured I'd be able to use at least twice. Microsoft is really cracking down.

OldBuzzard · Feb 24, 2010, 05:34 PM

There are a couple of things that you can do to get 7 to do a clean install from an upgrade disk.

In my case, I did a clean install from an upgrade disk (Win 7 Pro x64), but on a friends system, Win7 Prem x64, wouldn't activate until I did the 'registry tweak' you can find here:

http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/cle...rade_media.asp

Now I'm assuming, that you are putting this on just ONE system, and not trying to use the same activation key on two different systems?

A Desire to Game · Feb 25, 2010, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by OldBuzzard

There are a couple of things that you can do to get 7 to do a clean install from an upgrade disk.

In my case, I did a clean install from an upgrade disk (Win 7 Pro x64), but on a friends system, Win7 Prem x64, wouldn't activate until I did the 'registry tweak' you can find here:

http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/cle...rade_media.asp

Now I'm assuming, that you are putting this on just ONE system, and not trying to use the same activation key on two different systems?

Yes this is the only system that will have this copy of Win 7. I tried memtest and all is fine with my RAM. I tried to use the Western Digital HD Diagnostics but it wouldn't work. It kept saying it couldnt find the License Agreement text file. Anyway, I'm back at it again. I removed one of my sticks of RAM this time. I doubt it will have any effect but who knows.

If all else fails with Win7, I'll go back to my Vista 64-bit. I have another copy of Win 7 32-bit but I'd hate to not use all my RAM. Plus I will be even more limited due to my 1gb of VRAM.

anonemus · Feb 25, 2010, 01:36 AM

Try installing with just one RAM. If successful, then add the other sticks...

A Desire to Game · Feb 25, 2010, 02:41 AM

Got windows 7 installed and activated no problem, with one ram. Began to install drivers and now I am getting blue screens right after the 'Starting Windows' appears. The memory checked out okay with memtest but I'm still not certain if its just having incompatibility issues. I'm gettin a little frustrated, lol.

anonemus · Feb 25, 2010, 02:58 AM

...maybe something related to AHCI in the BIOS setting?

A Desire to Game · Feb 25, 2010, 04:29 AM

So I swapped my RAM with a buddy's Mushkin RAM at the same speed and timings and it BSOD at the same point as before. I then went into the BIOS and bumped up my CPU multi so the CPU is at 3.6 instead of 3.4 and now its running rock solid! I'm stumped. Someone help explain? Anyone?

A Desire to Game · Feb 25, 2010, 01:34 PM

Well that lasted about 30 minutes and got another BSOD. I switched back to my corsair RAM and I am still able to get into Windows. I fooled around with it for a little while and didn't get a BSOD but it was getting late so I'll try again tonight after work.

The BIOS has all the voltages greyed out and set on "Auto" so it won't let me set it to 1.5v (the recommended voltage for both the mobo and the RAM)

I think I might try updating the BIOS from 1.7 to 1.9. Then I'm gonna try MSi's tech support.

A Desire to Game · Feb 25, 2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by anonemus

...maybe something related to AHCI in the BIOS setting?

How do you mean?

A Desire to Game · Feb 25, 2010, 05:18 PM

So I believe I have to use the"+" and "-" keys to change the voltage values. Who would have thought? Hopefully after dialing in the voltage and timings everything will work.

A Desire to Game · Feb 26, 2010, 06:25 AM

Everything seems to be up and working. I suppose the voltages were it. I can live a happy life again.

isaak · Feb 26, 2010, 07:18 AM

So you think the problem was that the RAM wasn't running at the right voltage?

good to hear you've got it up and running. enjoy the new system dude

anonemus · Feb 26, 2010, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by A Desire to Game

How do you mean?

I just read in another forum to also check the AHCI setting in the BIOS for hardisk when having installation problem.

Good to know you've solved the problem already, Desire

A Desire to Game · Feb 27, 2010, 03:37 AM

Thanks guys. Yeah it seems to be running pretty smooth now. Although I do notice some judders in Windows when the screen fades during startup and shut down. Driver related? Tried uninstall and guru3d driver sweeper and reinstall but no change.

Feb 20, 2010, 01:05 PM	#91
anonemus 80 Plus Certified Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Philippines Posts: 989 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	Re: What would you buy? Wow, really yummy looking case!

Feb 20, 2010, 06:20 PM	#94
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 10,469 Rep Power: 339 System Specs	Re: What would you buy? I have verified that the monitor originally doesn't came with a DVI-DVI cable from the manufacture . Look at the pic "from the Monitor CD guide". Damn you Samsung ! Sorry to hijack your thread , Desire . Attached Thumbnails

Feb 22, 2010, 04:15 PM	#96
CJLMTLCA 14X Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 633 Rep Power: 63 System Specs	Re: What would you buy? nice looking motherboard. i like the H50... i would def get that if i were to replace my cpu cooler and i like the layout of that case. fans blowing cool air from the bottom out the top, vertical hanging cards. nice setup, let us know how it performs cooling wise over time __________________

Feb 24, 2010, 02:08 PM	Thread Starter #102
A Desire to Game HardwareHeaven Hoosier Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 296 Rep Power: 33 System Specs	Re: What would you buy? So I'm having difficulty getting Win 7 Ultimate x64 to install. When I try to do the clean install it tells me my key is invalid and that it is for the Upgrade. However, I know this is crap because I had used it for a clean install on my previous rig. Now I have another problem. I decided that I would install Vista Ultimate x64 instead and do an upgrade from that. However, midway through the install it blue screened on me. I'm thinking its my RAM. I'll give it a retry when I get home tonight. Any suggestions are more than welcome. __________________ Three is my new favorite number. (SATA III, USB 3.0, and triple channel memory)

Feb 24, 2010, 02:28 PM	#103
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 10,469 Rep Power: 339 System Specs	Re: What would you buy? there is a trick to install Win7 upgrade disc as a clean install but I don't remember. For the blue screen try: 1.remove all ram sticks and the motherboard battery. 2.wait a few minutes and install the ram again and tey to install the windows 3. If you still get the blue screen , install the dimms in different slots. If all didn't work , we'll have to figure another solutions then.

Feb 24, 2010, 02:37 PM	#104
CJLMTLCA 14X Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 633 Rep Power: 63 System Specs	Re: What would you buy? download memtest86+ v4.00 and see if you get any errors in the first pass. __________________

Feb 24, 2010, 04:32 PM	Thread Starter #105
A Desire to Game HardwareHeaven Hoosier Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 296 Rep Power: 33 System Specs	Re: What would you buy? I'll give the trusty memtest a try after work. I'm still not sure what I'm gonna do bout my Windows 7 disc. I have activated it once before on my wife's computer but I figured I'd be able to use at least twice. Microsoft is really cracking down. __________________ Three is my new favorite number. (SATA III, USB 3.0, and triple channel memory)

Feb 24, 2010, 05:34 PM	#106
OldBuzzard DH's oldest Geek Join Date: May 2003 Location: Oberlin, OH Posts: 2,783 Rep Power: 145 System Specs	Re: What would you buy? There are a couple of things that you can do to get 7 to do a clean install from an upgrade disk. In my case, I did a clean install from an upgrade disk (Win 7 Pro x64), but on a friends system, Win7 Prem x64, wouldn't activate until I did the 'registry tweak' you can find here: http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/cle...rade_media.asp Now I'm assuming, that you are putting this on just ONE system, and not trying to use the same activation key on two different systems? __________________ When looking for a reason as to why things go wrong, never rule out sheer STUPIDITY

Feb 25, 2010, 01:36 AM	#108
anonemus 80 Plus Certified Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Philippines Posts: 989 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	Re: What would you buy? Try installing with just one RAM. If successful, then add the other sticks...

Feb 25, 2010, 02:41 AM	Thread Starter #109
A Desire to Game HardwareHeaven Hoosier Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 296 Rep Power: 33 System Specs	Re: What would you buy? Got windows 7 installed and activated no problem, with one ram. Began to install drivers and now I am getting blue screens right after the 'Starting Windows' appears. The memory checked out okay with memtest but I'm still not certain if its just having incompatibility issues. I'm gettin a little frustrated, lol. __________________ Three is my new favorite number. (SATA III, USB 3.0, and triple channel memory)

Feb 25, 2010, 02:58 AM	#110
anonemus 80 Plus Certified Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Philippines Posts: 989 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	Re: What would you buy? ...maybe something related to AHCI in the BIOS setting?

Feb 25, 2010, 04:29 AM	Thread Starter #111
A Desire to Game HardwareHeaven Hoosier Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 296 Rep Power: 33 System Specs	Re: What would you buy? So I swapped my RAM with a buddy's Mushkin RAM at the same speed and timings and it BSOD at the same point as before. I then went into the BIOS and bumped up my CPU multi so the CPU is at 3.6 instead of 3.4 and now its running rock solid! I'm stumped. Someone help explain? Anyone? __________________ Three is my new favorite number. (SATA III, USB 3.0, and triple channel memory)

Feb 25, 2010, 01:34 PM	Thread Starter #112
A Desire to Game HardwareHeaven Hoosier Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 296 Rep Power: 33 System Specs	Re: What would you buy? Well that lasted about 30 minutes and got another BSOD. I switched back to my corsair RAM and I am still able to get into Windows. I fooled around with it for a little while and didn't get a BSOD but it was getting late so I'll try again tonight after work. The BIOS has all the voltages greyed out and set on "Auto" so it won't let me set it to 1.5v (the recommended voltage for both the mobo and the RAM) I think I might try updating the BIOS from 1.7 to 1.9. Then I'm gonna try MSi's tech support. __________________ Three is my new favorite number. (SATA III, USB 3.0, and triple channel memory)

Feb 25, 2010, 05:18 PM	Thread Starter #114
A Desire to Game HardwareHeaven Hoosier Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 296 Rep Power: 33 System Specs	Re: What would you buy? So I believe I have to use the"+" and "-" keys to change the voltage values. Who would have thought? Hopefully after dialing in the voltage and timings everything will work. __________________ Three is my new favorite number. (SATA III, USB 3.0, and triple channel memory)

Feb 26, 2010, 06:25 AM	Thread Starter #115
A Desire to Game HardwareHeaven Hoosier Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 296 Rep Power: 33 System Specs	Re: What would you buy? Everything seems to be up and working. I suppose the voltages were it. I can live a happy life again. __________________ Three is my new favorite number. (SATA III, USB 3.0, and triple channel memory)

Feb 26, 2010, 07:18 AM	#116
isaak HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 2,286 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	Re: What would you buy? So you think the problem was that the RAM wasn't running at the right voltage? good to hear you've got it up and running. enjoy the new system dude __________________ The first step... shall be to lose the way. - Galway Kinnell

Feb 27, 2010, 03:37 AM	Thread Starter #118
A Desire to Game HardwareHeaven Hoosier Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 296 Rep Power: 33 System Specs	Re: What would you buy? Thanks guys. Yeah it seems to be running pretty smooth now. Although I do notice some judders in Windows when the screen fades during startup and shut down. Driver related? Tried uninstall and guru3d driver sweeper and reinstall but no change. __________________ Three is my new favorite number. (SATA III, USB 3.0, and triple channel memory)