The missing PSU spec.....

Tyrsonswood · Aug 3, 2010, 02:34 PM

Cable length!!!

My Antec 180 series case needs a new PSU.... the True Power 430 I had in my Gunmetal went POP the other night and needs to be replaced. Going through ads for various supply's comes up with all kinds of specs except a very important one... Length of the ATX and 12V cables.

Being a bottom mounted PSU and the AsRock mobo has the power connectors at the very top the 430's 21 inches was just enough with no breathing room so 21" plus would be great but nothing I've seen even gives this length as a specification.

I won't need any more than 500-600W and COST is very important! so before anybody plays "fanboy" about their favorite brand without knowing if the cables are sufficiant and cost is out of this world (I live in a very poor world) I will find out where you live

This is for the "Manna from Heaven" system, BTW, and everything is fine other than the PSU.... I have run it with a SuperMicro 465 that I have as a spare since this happened but that supply has to sit on top of the case because it's for top mount or server case use and has very short ATX/12v cables.

I would prefer to not spend $30+ on extension cables when there are some suitable PSU's available for a little more than twice that, and I'm also not interested in running short cables across the top of the Mobo.

Newegg has a "shell shocker" special coming up this afternoon for an Antec neo ECO 520C at a very good price, if I can get in on time (limited supply, yadda yadda) is there any reason to not consider this supply?

Takaharu · Aug 3, 2010, 03:17 PM

A 21" ATX cable... yeah, I don't think there is one.

If, however, I'm wrong about this please do tell me the name of the PSU. I can only hide two power cables in the RV02 - the ATX and the 8-pin m/b connector (of which I do not know the name).

Tyrsonswood · Aug 3, 2010, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Takaharu

A 21" ATX cable... yeah, I don't think there is one.

If, however, I'm wrong about this please do tell me the name of the PSU. I can only hide two power cables in the RV02 - the ATX and the 8-pin m/b connector (of which I do not know the name).

The name of which PSU? What was in there that fried was an Antec truepower 430........ Or are you asking something else?

OldBuzzard · Aug 3, 2010, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrsonswood

[B][SIZE="4"]... I would prefer to not spend $30+ on extension cables ...

How about $10.00?
Newegg.com - APEVIA Cable Model CVT12VMPE

Judas · Aug 3, 2010, 04:45 PM

don't go cheap

well too cheap

Newegg.ca - COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power Plus RS-500-PCAR-A3 500W ATX12V V2.3 Power Supply

the P4+4 (8 pin 12v) cable is between 22-24 inches in length (just measured the 2 i have here in stock)

OldBuzzard · Aug 3, 2010, 04:51 PM

Not sure what your upper limit $$ wise for a PSU is, but there is the Corsair VX450 on New egg for $64.99
Newegg.com - CORSAIR CMPSU-450VX 450W ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply

It has LONG cables as was mentioned in the JONNYGURU test:

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... As we can see here, the cables are very long. Typically we see 550MM cables, and that's ok 98% of the time. Sometimes we're cursed with 500MM cables. But Corsair went with 610MM and longer cables for the VX450W. ...

Corsair VX450W power supply review Review

Tyrsonswood · Aug 3, 2010, 05:05 PM

That cooler master has crappy reviews, Judas, not that reviews are everything but I'ma gonna steer clear of that one.....

Corsair looks okay, Old Buzzard....... More than the Antec Neo they are blowing out this afternoon, but reasonable......... My comment about the extension cables was that the, main power + 12v CPU power + Shipping = more than I want to spend for some wires. Be it $30 or even $25 it's not worth it....... I've got wire, connectors, and 40+ years of soldering experience if it comes down to it. I'd just rather not go that route.

Judas · Aug 3, 2010, 06:37 PM

[QUOTE=Tyrsonswood;1372408]That cooler master has crappy reviews, Judas, not that reviews are everything but I'ma gonna steer clear of that one.....[QUOTE]

If it's anything at all.

I've been using Coolermaster 500watt A3 psu's in EVERY single one of my machines..... when the cosair and antecs and sparkle PSU's fail.. the coolermasters continue on.

I've had 2 DOA and 2 that have continued to work even though the fans have seized solid (work great passively mind you a wee bit on the warm side personally)...

That's considering the near 150+ of them that have passed through my hands...

Any other one that has died is due to USER error or sevear lightning strikes and even then.. they have done their jobs and saved the remaining components...

When i got the massive rig assembled..... i used 2 of the coolermasters to power the sucker when the corsair 1000HX was having a fit and the OCZ PSU's i had wouldn't push it...

And the Coolermaster 500watt i've had have always managed to push an average of 450-500watts on the 12v rails ALONE (50-150 watts beyond their spec) for hours at a time.

They are the CHEAPEST yet most reliable and able to do their REAL rating and beyond ..... other psu's just can't touch them in the same price range i find.

Tyrsonswood · Aug 3, 2010, 06:57 PM

Of course I trust your judgement, Judas, I know you wouldn't recommend what you don't use. My point was the reviews were bad, a lot of RMA's going on, and customer support from cooler master making a bunch of excuses....... Where as the Corsair and Antec reviews were all happy campers.

Maybe newegg got a bad batch, even if CM makes good on them all I don't need the hassle and the return shipping costs......

Still a few hours before that "shell shocker" deal comes around, I hate being poor but cost/quality needs to be part of this....... at least I'm not planning on a generic no name brand.

procupine14 · Aug 3, 2010, 07:53 PM

I've used Corsiar, Zalman, Antec, Seasonic and CoolerMaster. All great product lines pretty much just choose your poison between those brands IMHO. The last PSU I had fail on me was a Logisys which I knew was going to fail sooner or later. But the PC it was running wasn't anything important so I just let go until it gave up.

The one I have that is currently out of commision is my Seasonic for my HTPC but I think that is entirely because I am running too much stuff on it. I'm heading to the local brick and mortar this afternoon (they finally decided to start directly competing with newegg on some things and really drive down prices on some stuff.

Tyrsonswood · Aug 3, 2010, 10:01 PM

Well since nobody had anything bad to say about the Antec Neo Eco 520C I couldn't pass on that deal and went for it as soon as it came online...... Will see how it goes from there.

With manufacturers rebate it was $29.99 and free shipping.

Kein · Aug 4, 2010, 01:30 PM

You got an amazing deal at that price, the Antec Neo Eco 520C is basically a rebranded Seasonic psu. Congrats and let us know about how quiet it is as well.

Tyrsonswood · Aug 4, 2010, 01:54 PM

Thanks, man, and thanks for all those who replied....... I'll let you know how it goes.

procupine14 · Aug 4, 2010, 03:35 PM

Congrats!! Looks like both of us just got good deals on new PSUs

I just picked up a 500W OZC ModExtreme for 50 bucks with a $30.00 mail-in from my local brick and mortar.

Necrosis · Aug 6, 2010, 10:40 AM

Wish I would of seen this sooner. I was using a Corsair tx750 in that guess, though for the life of me I can't remember if I had to use extenders or not.

Tyrsonswood · Aug 6, 2010, 11:53 AM

I think I remember you saying it was a little short, it was your one complaint about the case, but I don't remember what you said you did about that.

Tyrsonswood · Aug 6, 2010, 10:29 PM

Fit with cable to spare..........

Aug 3, 2010, 03:17 PM	#2
Takaharu I can fart in 7 languages Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: England, UK Posts: 1,847 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	Re: The missing PSU spec..... A 21" ATX cable... yeah, I don't think there is one. If, however, I'm wrong about this please do tell me the name of the PSU. I can only hide two power cables in the RV02 - the ATX and the 8-pin m/b connector (of which I do not know the name). __________________ I don't get paid to know the answer, therefore I'm far more likely to give you a straight and honest answer. Mods Rig, Box Mods Rig, Folding details

Aug 3, 2010, 07:53 PM	#10
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	Re: The missing PSU spec..... I've used Corsiar, Zalman, Antec, Seasonic and CoolerMaster. All great product lines pretty much just choose your poison between those brands IMHO. The last PSU I had fail on me was a Logisys which I knew was going to fail sooner or later. But the PC it was running wasn't anything important so I just let go until it gave up. The one I have that is currently out of commision is my Seasonic for my HTPC but I think that is entirely because I am running too much stuff on it. I'm heading to the local brick and mortar this afternoon (they finally decided to start directly competing with newegg on some things and really drive down prices on some stuff. __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

Aug 4, 2010, 01:30 PM	#12
Kein HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 103 Rep Power: 40	Re: The missing PSU spec..... You got an amazing deal at that price, the Antec Neo Eco 520C is basically a rebranded Seasonic psu. Congrats and let us know about how quiet it is as well.

Aug 4, 2010, 03:35 PM	#14
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	Re: The missing PSU spec..... Congrats!! Looks like both of us just got good deals on new PSUs I just picked up a 500W OZC ModExtreme for 50 bucks with a $30.00 mail-in from my local brick and mortar. __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

Aug 6, 2010, 10:40 AM	#15
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Re: The missing PSU spec..... Wish I would of seen this sooner. I was using a Corsair tx750 in that guess, though for the life of me I can't remember if I had to use extenders or not.