merlinxi

Okay here it goes.

In everyone of my games I play I get stuttering gameplay, and it's EXTREMELY ANNOYING.

Here is my system layout now: (ignore the signature until I update it.)

Intel Core I7 860 2.8GHZ Quad Core Processor
GTX 470 Superclocked Version
6GB of Corsair Dominator Ram DD3 2000MHZ speed, 8 latency timings.
1.5TB Hard drive as main, standard 7200RPM drive.
Asus P55 LE Motherboard
700W Toughpower, cable management power supply.
Windows 7 64 Bit Version
Tried Latest normal Nvidia drivers, and latest beta drivers as well.

I play the following games and get stuttering in ALL OF THEM:

1. Civilization V
2. Mass Effect 2
3. Star Trek Online
4. Starcraft II

What the HELL is going on. I spend a 1K on my new build.

What settings is not set right, or what is frigging causing this. I could have the game on the crappiest quality and still get stuttering. Seriously, what is going on.

I have had STUTTERING ALL MY LIFE with ALL MY BUILDS. It's just starting to piss me off, with the money I spent I shouldn't be getting stuttering especially with the system build i have. Is there some setting int he Nvidia settings that is not turned on or something to smooth out the gameplay??

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mkk

Is there any particular pattern to the stutter?
(the DX11 exe for Civ 5 has been a bit wonky on many systems but Starcraft 2 should be smooth)

merlinxi

No pattern, it just happens randomly. It makes no sense. Forgot it on the Sims 3, it stutters EVERY second,. It's unplayable.

Mass Effect 2, If I am in the ship say, and I turn the corner, stutter, as it "loads" the people there, stutter as I open a door, stutter stutter sutter. WTF WTF WTF.

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BlueMak

First of all, how long is all your life and how many are all your builds? Because if we are talking about different computers over a couple of decades with no common hardware or software between them, then there is one of three things.
a)You are confusing the word stuttering for something else.
b)You need to see a doctor because there is something wrong with you.
c)You keep using something common between them. Perhaps there is an issue with the power in your place? Are other computers in the same house which do not experience this issue?

Also, can other people notice the stuttering?


Do you use an external sound card and not the mainboard's onboard solution? Try to remove it and/or disable the onboard sound and/or graphics solution.

Do you use the same mouse/keyboard/monitor?

If you have anything overclocked, try without overclocking anything.

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mkk

Try disabling HyperThreading for the CPU in the BIOS just to see if it makes any difference, but I'd suspect something with the graphics card too. Perhaps it's simply bad, given that you've tried many different drivers.

BlueMak

IF you always use onboard sound, is it always by Azalia (now known as HDA)?

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merlinxi

The onboard soundcard is Realtek HD Audio.

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Veridian3

I guess the first question should really be... what game settings (resolution and detail) are you trying to use?

merlinxi

I have tried it on Ultra Low and Ultra High. Still Stutters, it doesn't explain why a game not nearly as graphics intensive, the Sims 3 I would get stutters every 2 seconds. ugh i should make a youtube video of it.

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BlueMak

Unless the ASUS site is wrong, your onboard solution is Azalia or High Definition Audio as it is now known.

Do you use Realtek drivers for Azalia sound? That could explain a lot.

If I am mistaken, can you please post a link of the specific mainboard you have?
Also, I am still waiting on for how many different PCs you have this problem and if they have anything in common. Unless you were exagerating and this is the only PC you have this issue.

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Veridian3

Just to be clear, is it the P7P55D-LE? My search skills could be failing me but I cant find an Asus board thats just "P55 LE".

If it is the P7P55D-LE, thats Via sound.

merlinxi

Sorry sorry sorry. It's not ASUS. Facepalm: This is the exact motherboard:

EVGA P55 LE 123-LF-E653-KR LGA1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard



Here is what is weird:

The drivers that installed, when i go into the sound manager it says "Realtek"

In the device manager it says:

"Nvidia High Definition Sound"

WTF?

I got the latest drivers from the EVGA site if I remember correctly, then winodws update installed it's drivers. Forcefully, don't even think i realized it.

This is weird.

The drivers on the EVGA Site are updated as of 9/8/2010.

Ahh nevermind, it says NVIDIA high def audio like 6 times, then the Realtek Audio, what is the NVIDIA High def audio doing there?

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Veridian3

Nvidia high def audio is the passthrough for the GFX card HDMI.

In terms of fixing the issue I think that the following steps should be performed.

Pre setup: Update motherboard BIOS, Mouse/drive Firmware (if relavent) and download the latest network/wireless driver.

Download the latest Intel chipset driver from Intel, the latest audio driver from Realtek, the latest video driver from Nvidia and the latest directX from Microsoft.

1) Configure your BIOS for no overclocking. Set the memory to 1600MHz and drive to use AHCI rather than SATA/IDE.

2) Save and reboot.

3) Install Windows.

4) Connect to the net and get all windows updates apart from Intel/Nvidia/Realtek Audio. Reboot.

5) Install the intel chipset driver. Reboot

6) Install the Nvidia driver. Reboot

7) Install the audio Driver. Reboot

8) Install the LAN driver. Reboot.

9) Install all your games/apps. Reboot

10) Install the latest DirectX. Reboot (Very important you do this step AFTER the game installs)

11) Try your games again.

If that still doesnt solve it, install FRAPS and record your framerates to see if these stutters are your fps falling below 25 or if its something else.

merlinxi

This was a new installation of windows when I got it, the build. I did update my bios. IMMEDIATELY.

I will get the latest drivers from the Realtek site, rather then the evga site. Now that AHCI setting I never heard it.

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merlinxi

This will bust your knowledge and your mind:

My native resolution of my monitor is: 1280x1024.

Now here is this:

If I put the resolution on 1024x768 NO STUTTERING AT ALL.

Here is even the WEIRDER THING:

If I use my 42" LCD tv and put the RESO on 1900x1200, NO STUTTERING.

If I put the resolution on my monitor at 1280X960, not stuttering.

W....T.....F.

I am not kidding about this.

Nor am I pulling your leg.

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Takaharu

Buy a new monitor

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mkk

Well if that works for whatever the reason, 24" monitors are relatively affordable now and even the simpler ones like BenQ's LED line has a pretty decent image quality. Your card has the performance to deal with 1920 anyway.

Veridian3

Might I suggest the Asus VG236H... and then you can do 3D

merlinxi

I think I figured it out:

It's the DAMN hard drive.

When I stutter, i mean i don't just stutter I PAUSE for a few seconds, and I notice the hard drive reading like mad, in most systems now the brighter the light, the harder the drive is working. and oh yeah, the hard drive was reading like mad. So:

1. First I tried doing a STATIC page file, that made it WORSE.
2. Then I tried a very HIGH static page file, no change.
3. Then I did a page file of 2000MB and max 8000.

Now there is virtually no stuttering.

So what I am going to do it DEFRAG the hard drive now. Because i have installed windows on this thing like 8 times, and deleted a lot of crap. So it must be fragmented to hell.

I finally figured it out, if anyone has any other suggestions to increase hard drive performance..

by the way this is a brand new 1.5TB drive I got a few months ago.

Don't ask why I have re installed windows so many times.

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blibbax

If the issue is fixed by playing at different resolutions or on a different monitor, it is nothing at all to do with your hard drive, and your page file or hard drive performance should really not make that big a difference actually during gameplay.

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merlinxi

i don't understand how a monitor causes pausing/stuttering.

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Liqourice

Well, my TV caused stuttering while watching BD on my HTPC. A firmware update fixed that so anything is possible.

mkk

If the harddrive really helped, check it with some diagnostics utility. Seagate SeaTools for Windows works well with any drive. Do a long self-test just to be on the safe side.

A Desire to Game

Reading through these posts I was guessing the hard drive...or you are playing online and are getting internet lag, lol.

What kind of hard drive are you using? Don't say Caviar Green. Uninstall and reinstall your game on a different HDD.

P.S. If you do a lot of graphics card driver install and uninstalls I would recommend using the DriverSweeper utility from Guru3d.com.

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