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Old Dec 3, 2010, 04:09 PM   #1
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Buying a new gaming computer

Hello! I'm new here so I guess I'll probably get owned for posting in the wrong section but yeah :/
I'm thinking of getting :
i7 950 + Asus Rampage III Gene
PC3 10666/1333 Corsair CL9 3 x 2GB
WD 1TB Caviar Black SATA3
Seasonic X Series 650W Modular
CM HAF 912 Advance USB 3.0
Xigmatek Thor's Hammer S126384 + 2 Fans in a Push/Pull configuration
G.Skill Phoenix 60GB SSD

My budget is around 2000 Singapore Dollars which is around 1500 USD.
You're probably wondering why i'm posting here instead of a Singaporean site, I think this is a really good site and stuff and I think I will be able to get valuble information and feedback here

Oh and for my graphics card, I already have the Gigabyte GTS450 OC Windforce, I know it's not that good but I guess it's still okay for now? o.o

If you have any suggestions on what I can get for a bigger bang for my buck, please do help me, thanks

I live in Singapore and therefore I don't get as many brands of hardware as you guys do so yeah, if possible, refer to http://assets.hardwarezone.com/pv_ob...well271110.pdf for a list of available hardware for me to choose from.

Once again, Thank you very much
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if you are wanting the best rig you might wait until sandybridge stuff comes out in about a month though idk if you would be able to get it
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out of curiousity.. why that motherboard?
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it's micro atx.
what's wrong with Asus p6x58d-e?
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if you are wanting the best rig you might wait until sandybridge stuff comes out in about a month though idk if you would be able to get it
Thanks, I'll look that up

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out of curiousity.. why that motherboard?
I saw some people saying that it's a pretty good motherboard, I mean, i'm still very much open to changes, do you have anything to reccomend?

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it's micro atx.
what's wrong with Asus p6x58d-e?
Nothing o.o Do you think that will be better for me?
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Re: Buying a new gaming computer

I would at the very least get 1600Mhz ram. Not 1333. The price difference hopefully shouldn't be huge. (1600 standard XMS3, goes for like £80-90 here).

With regards to the mobo. My first thoughts when I saw it was there's only 2 pci'e slots. If you have a pci-e soundcard (like me) and ever want sli/crossfire, or even pci-e ssd (if they ever will be the norm), then it's gona be an issue.

everything else seems fine to me. SSD, the sandforce ones are almost all the same so makes little difference. jus go for warranty and good support.
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I would at the very least get 1600Mhz ram. Not 1333. The price difference hopefully shouldn't be huge. (1600 standard XMS3, goes for like £80-90 here).

With regards to the mobo. My first thoughts when I saw it was there's only 2 pci'e slots. If you have a pci-e soundcard (like me) and ever want sli/crossfire, or even pci-e ssd (if they ever will be the norm), then it's gona be an issue.

everything else seems fine to me. SSD, the sandforce ones are almost all the same so makes little difference. jus go for warranty and good support.
Ahhh, wait, if you don't mind, can you clarify something with me? I heard the i7 processor needs 3 x 2GB to run properly? So a 2 x 3GB configuration wouldn't run well? o.o

With regards to the motherboard, I don't think i'll ever get a sound card, the most i'd probably do is have two graphics card in a SLI/Crossfire configuration, thanks

Oh and I don't think I can get the sandforce over here, but I'll go check it out, thanks alot for the feedback
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in an i7 solution.. you can run any combination of ram.. provided you have at least ONE stick of even 256mb of ram in it... up to 4gb modules..

but for proper potentials being realised... you want to go with 3x2gb .... IF you could afford it.. i would recommend 3x4gb... but that's totally overkill for most people lol.. even 6gb is pretty damn good..... longevity wise though... 3x4gb is handy....

either way doesn't matter..

they don't make 3gb modules.. so 2x3gb wouldn't work..

Personally the 1333mhz stuff is just fine... 1600mhz IF available for a few bucks more may be worthwhile too... doesn't hurt if you don't mind.. your choice.

As for the motherboard... i mean it's all personal preference... it's always best to keep your options open, a micro ATX isn't a bad idea... but in terms of upgradeability or say sli/crossfire options.. it's almost an impossibility..... But lets be real.... what are the likely chance your going to even get a sound card or extra video card? right?

Personally though.. i utterly HATE the via Onboard Audio solution.. and i hate the ADI Audio controllers too... picky, rarely updated.. and generally terrible i find... mind you via is far better then ADI or "soundmax"..

A board with realtek would be preferred i would say.... less troublesome... frequently sometimes twice a month updates making it much easier and more likely to resolve a problem if you run into it..... and makes getting a sound card unnecessary....

if you wish to consider another... if only to consider...

these 2 boards are worth looking at perhaps...

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Re: Buying a new gaming computer

Another very good option (similar to the P6X58D-E) is the ASUS Sabertooth.

Newegg.com - ASUS Sabertooth X58 LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

I'm currently running a P6X58D Premium. I don't really think it was worth the money. I should have either gone with the Sabertooth/P6X58D-E, or stepped up for the EVGA Classified 3 (Newegg.com - EVGA 141-GT-E770-A1 LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Extended ATX Intel Motherboard ).

Any of these products, though, are/would be wonderful.
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Re: Buying a new gaming computer

the P6X58D-E is certainly a better option imo.

for the price difference it makes no sense to go 1333Mhz ram. You'd likely be overclocking the i7950 somewhere down the line, 1600 mhz ram is "easier", without going into a low divider for the ram (without overclocking the ram).
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Another very good option (similar to the P6X58D-E) is the ASUS Sabertooth.

Newegg.com - ASUS Sabertooth X58 LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

I'm currently running a P6X58D Premium. I don't really think it was worth the money. I should have either gone with the Sabertooth/P6X58D-E, or stepped up for the EVGA Classified 3 (Newegg.com - EVGA 141-GT-E770-A1 LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Extended ATX Intel Motherboard ).

Any of these products, though, are/would be wonderful.
Thanks alot, I'll consider the options you've suggested, thanks

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in an i7 solution.. you can run any combination of ram.. provided you have at least ONE stick of even 256mb of ram in it... up to 4gb modules..

but for proper potentials being realised... you want to go with 3x2gb .... IF you could afford it.. i would recommend 3x4gb... but that's totally overkill for most people lol.. even 6gb is pretty damn good..... longevity wise though... 3x4gb is handy....

either way doesn't matter..

they don't make 3gb modules.. so 2x3gb wouldn't work..

Personally the 1333mhz stuff is just fine... 1600mhz IF available for a few bucks more may be worthwhile too... doesn't hurt if you don't mind.. your choice.

As for the motherboard... i mean it's all personal preference... it's always best to keep your options open, a micro ATX isn't a bad idea... but in terms of upgradeability or say sli/crossfire options.. it's almost an impossibility..... But lets be real.... what are the likely chance your going to even get a sound card or extra video card? right?

Personally though.. i utterly HATE the via Onboard Audio solution.. and i hate the ADI Audio controllers too... picky, rarely updated.. and generally terrible i find... mind you via is far better then ADI or "soundmax"..

A board with realtek would be preferred i would say.... less troublesome... frequently sometimes twice a month updates making it much easier and more likely to resolve a problem if you run into it..... and makes getting a sound card unnecessary....

if you wish to consider another... if only to consider...

these 2 boards are worth looking at perhaps...

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Thank you very much for the detailed explanation! Really appreciated! That made me understand much more But after some thinking I realise that i7 isn't really needed for gaming purposes right? I mean an i5 solution would work just as well, except without hyper threading, I might be going with an i5 solution. I know i'm really fickle minded and stuff but I think i'll be waiting up to the Sandy Bridge release and see how's the Sandy Bridge and stuff before making a choice. You get what I mean? o.o
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the high end sandy bridge will be Q3/Q4 2011 afaik
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They should become available to the public after Q1 2011. Though no idea how they plan on rolling them out.

I think originally they were going to release 22nm chips by Q3/Q4 2011, but those got pushed back to 2012.
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the high end sandy bridge will be Q3/Q4 2011 afaik
Soooo, it's not recommended that I get the first batch, Q1 2011? o.o
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Well, it's just that the high end chips won't be released until later. So if you got some of the Sandybridge that come out in Q1, it would be the low or midrange processors, which would probably not suit your needs.
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I don't think it's worth waiting for the next generation. When sandy bridge comes out, the next best thing is already just around the corner.
If you play the waiting game, you will keep waiting...
but hey, that's just my opinion.

Any specific reason you want a micro-ATX motherboard?
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Well, it's just that the high end chips won't be released until later. So if you got some of the Sandybridge that come out in Q1, it would be the low or midrange processors, which would probably not suit your needs.
Ahhhh, damn D: Sandy Bridge sounded awesome! Anyway, how about Fermi? o.o

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I don't think it's worth waiting for the next generation. When sandy bridge comes out, the next best thing is already just around the corner.
If you play the waiting game, you will keep waiting...
but hey, that's just my opinion.

Any specific reason you want a micro-ATX motherboard?
So I should continue my research and get a new computer for now? No specific reason, I just saw some positive feedback on the Asus Ramapage III Gene
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I wouldn't bother with a micro ATX in a full tower case.
Motherboards mentioned in this thread already, are top-notch.
Just look at what you want in your computer, and get a motherboard to match this.
You want single video card or multiple, this limits your choice. It is no use buying a crossfire/SLI board, when you will never use that 2nd slot.


I am not saying you should or shouldn't wait. That's a decision you have to make by yourself.
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Ahhhh, damn D: Sandy Bridge sounded awesome! Anyway, how about Fermi? o.o
Fermi? Eh? You already have a Fermi GPU. Do you mean that the high end came out first? If so, I'm thinking it's kinda a bad example :P
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Ahhhh, damn D: Sandy Bridge sounded awesome! Anyway, how about Fermi? o.o
Fermi is just the code name for the GT4** Series cards... So nothing to worry about there..

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I don't think it's worth waiting for the next generation. When sandy bridge comes out, the next best thing is already just around the corner.
If you play the waiting game, you will keep waiting...
but hey, that's just my opinion.

Any specific reason you want a micro-ATX motherboard?
Just no. While i'd usually agree with you, that's not the case here, SB is just 1 month away from release.

OP, unless it's going to take too long to be available in your country, wait till january if you don't need to build it now.

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actually for good gaming..... even an i3 on the 1156 socket is not to bad..

i've loaded up a pile of games on this intel i3 530 with 4gb of ram and a 5770 1gb video card..... and it does exceptionally well...

mind you there is a noticeable improvement with a intel i5...

both of which have HT as well...
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