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Old Feb 16, 2011, 08:16 PM   #1
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Okay, it's that time of year again when I am feeling the itch to upgrade and get a brand new PC, so far this is what the list looks like, any suggestions to lower/better the build will be much appreciated. I'll be buying this rig in the next couple of months so hopefully prices will have gone down by then too.

CPU : AMD : Phenom II : X6 1100T : AM3 : Six Core - $249.00
Asus Crosshair IV Fomula - $219.99
RAM : DDR3 : 8GB/Kit : PC16000 : Patriot PX538G2000ELK : Viper Xtreme - $122.00
Sapphire AMD 6970 2GB - $369.99
Antec : Dark Fleet : DF-35 ATX Case - $121.05
BFG 1000W PSU - $98.99
Asus VE27Q 27'' 1080p 1920x1080 monitor - $331.06
60GB OCZ Vertex 2 SSD - $129.00
Corsair H70 CPU Cooler - $108.19
SteelSeries 3H Gaming Headset - $54.97
Razer Arctosa Gaming Keyboard - $45.67
Razer DeathAdder Gaming Mouse - $50.62
SteelSeries : Steelpad Qck : 63004 Gaming Mousepad - $9.10
LG DVD RW Drive - $19.27
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 - $108.38

Total: $2036.29

I don't really use the extra buttons on gaming mice/keyboards so that is why I am just going for a simple Razer keyboard and mouse.

Some of the prices are off OTV's price list (On The Verge, the computer shop I'm buying this stuff from) and their catalogue can be found here:-

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And some are off Newegg.ca

Edit: Old PC (sold)
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Big monitor is..... BIG!

How close will you be sitting to this thing?
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Looks like a nice starting point before tweaking... which should begin with a nicer case. Seems sad to put such sull stuff in a bland/basic model like that.
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Couple things.

The V8 is overrated. Would you consider switching (Corsair H50/H70, Noctua, etc?).

The case, as said before, is not deserving of such a mighty rig. Surely if you're about to drop that much cash you can purchase a half decent case, no?

Also -- most 6950s can be flashed into fully functional 6970s, so you may be able to shave off some cost there.
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Big monitor is..... BIG!

How close will you be sitting to this thing?
Lol yeah I know, I was thinking to myself since I've already owned a 24'' with a 17'' on the side I had to get something that would be an improvement over what I last had, I will be sitting right up against it hehe, hopefully it will be enjoyable.

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Looks like a nice starting point before tweaking... which should begin with a nicer case. Seems sad to put such sull stuff in a bland/basic model like that.
Too true lol, but what case would you suggest? I've been beating myself over the head trying to come up with a better case with better cable management and such without going over the $50 mark but I don't think it's possible. Trouble is I can't justify getting a really nice looking case since with my last nice build I had a really sick case (an Antec something or other) but after a while got bored of it and wondered why I had bought it.

How bout the Dark Fleet? And does the Antec 902 glow blue because I don't think I can stand another case that glows so very brightly blue again.
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Couple things.

The V8 is overrated. Would you consider switching (Corsair H50/H70, Noctua, etc?).

The case, as said before, is not deserving of such a mighty rig. Surely if you're about to drop that much cash you can purchase a half decent case, no?

Also -- most 6950s can be flashed into fully functional 6970s, so you may be able to shave off some cost there.
Ok, I'll have a look at the Corsair H50/H70, and as for the case, which case should I get, I'd like something with a side window and which glows any color other than blue all over. I know the Cooler Master Elite 430 glows blue but that's just the one fan, its not like blue all over you know what I mean?
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Go eyefinity with 3 23-24" monitors instead.......
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Ok, I'll have a look at the Corsair H50/H70, and as for the case, which case should I get, I'd like something with a side window and which glows any color other than blue all over. I know the Cooler Master Elite 430 glows blue but that's just the one fan, its not like blue all over you know what I mean?
Yup. To each their own.

I know the HAF (932 and X) from CoolerMaster glow red and have a sidewindow. They're pretty popular high end gaming rig cases (see them at LANs a lot, but boy are they heavy!).

I use a Storm Sniper, which is made specifically for LANs (it has a side window option) but it glows blue. You can always replace the fans, but probably not worth the hassle.

The Raven RV02 is one of the sleekest looking cases I've ever seen, it got a gold award on DH if I remember correctly, and is pretty darned nice. It's...also just gigantic.

I'll see if I can dig up anything else with a side window to your liking

Links (I'm using NewEgg for convenience):
HAF X: Newegg.ca - COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel/ Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case
HAF 932: Newegg.ca - COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Storm Sniper: Newegg.ca - COOLER MASTER Storm Sniper SGC-6000-KXN1-GP Black Steel, ABS Plastic, Mesh bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Raven RV02: Newegg.ca - SILVERSTONE RAVEN RV02-BW Matte black 0.8mm Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case

Edit: dang Cal, you literally posted less than 3 seconds after me. Talk about weird. o.O

And I can understand your preference for one big monitor. A 6950 flashed to 6970 (or just a 6970) should last you quite some time, though you may want to wait for some custom cooled models to come out (given how hot they run). I'd recommend the PowerColor PCS++ 6950 (Got a perfect in all scores here!) but I dont know when they're hitting the market.
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Nah, I've never really liked eyefinity for the sole reason that there's boarders in between the monitors and I prefer a boarderless design instead, I know they'res boarderless monitors you can buy but that would just send the price out into space, not so?

Also I plan to be using that one card for quite a while so I'd really like to have just one screen so I can max settings for longer hehehe.

synthesis I'm looking at the Corsair H70 and H50 and they're water cooling huh? What if there was a leak in my precious PC? I've never dealt with water cooling before, and that is just a constant fear I've got.

I'm still waiting for what case I should get, preferably one with good cable management.
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Nah, I've never really like eyefinity for the sole reason that there's boarders in between the monitors and I prefer a boarderless design instead, I know they'res boarderless monitors you can buy but that would just send the price out into space, not so?

Also I plan to be using that one card for quite a while so I'd really like to have just one screen so I can max settings for longer hehehe.

synthesis I'm looking at the Corsair H70 and H50 and they're water cooling huh? What if there was a leak in my precious PC? I've never dealt with water cooling before, and that is just a constant fear I've got.

I'm still waiting for what case I should get, preferably one with good cable management.
Both received 10s in performance from DH/HH (I forget what it was for the H50. Meh.).

Corsair is also wonderful in the service dept. There's a story floating about the net about how a defective H50 leaked onto a guy's P6X58D motherboard and fried it and his cpu. Corsair paid for a new H50 and replaced the motherboard and cpu for free...talk about service. I use a H50 with me $2k+ rig and am not afraid. I'm sure V3 or Craig will vouch for it.

And on the case regard, the Storm Sniper is a little lacking (it is a midtower, though). The HAF and RV02 are both excellent.

RV02: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/review...onclusion.html
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The H50 and H70 are factory sealed so leaks are highly unlikely but they perform great, run quiet and are very easy to install. We use them in all our reviews.
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The H50 and H70 are factory sealed so leaks are highly unlikely but they perform great, run quiet and are very easy to install. We use them in all our reviews.
And there is the vouch. I suppose this means you can blame me and V3 if your H50/H70 leaks.

And I'd still recommend the 6950 flash and the RV02 or HAF X if this were for me.

Here's an article on the 6950 flash:

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I already flashed a 9500 to a 9700 long long ago and I`m not doing it again hehe, this time I would like to purchase the actual card. Ofcourse I have owned a 4870X2 before but lets not talk about that lol.

As for the case I`ve decided on the Cooler Master HAF 922 if thats okay, since the HAF X is not in stock yet at OTV and I don`t want to order anything in over the internet this time to avoid waiting. I`ve also changed the cooler to the Corsair H70 as can be seen above. Thanks a lot for your help guys, its been invaluable so far. Still taking suggestions so keep em coming.
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I already flashed a 9500 to a 9700 long long ago and I`m not doing it again hehe, this time I would like to purchase the actual card. Ofcourse I have owned a 4870X2 before but lets not talk about that lol.

As for the case I`ve decided on the Cooler Master HAF 922 if thats okay, since the HAF X is not in stock yet at OTV and I don`t want to order anything in over the internet this time to avoid waiting. I`ve also changed the cooler to the Corsair H70 as can be seen above. Thanks a lot for your help guys, its been invaluable so far. Still taking suggestions so keep em coming.
The 922 has a mesh window (not a plastic/see through one), while the 932 and X have actual windows. Just keep that in mind.

And make sure everything will be able to fit. It looks comparable to my case so you should have enough room, but you may want to double check.

And of course, everyone's always glad to help just know we want pics in return, cal.
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The 922 has a mesh window (not a plastic/see through one), while the 932 and X have actual windows. Just keep that in mind.

And make sure everything will be able to fit. It looks comparable to my case so you should have enough room, but you may want to double check.

And of course, everyone's always glad to help just know we want pics in return, cal.
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Just had a look at the mouse options, for $10 more you can get a DeathAdder, go for that. Its one of the classic mice, one of the best ever. I have used one daily for years now and cant fault it, only recently did I move to the Roccat Kone[+] for my work PC as it is an extra level of brilliance but the DeathAdder moved to the main benching PC so still gets some use.
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Just had a look at the mouse options, for $10 more you can get a DeathAdder, go for that. Its one of the classic mice, one of the best ever. I have used one daily for years now and cant fault it, only recently did I move to the Roccat Kone[+] for my work PC as it is an extra level of brilliance but the DeathAdder moved to the main benching PC so still gets some use.
Done, thanks again.

Edit: How does the Dark Fleet compare to the HAF 922, I'm currently looking at this Dark Fleet DF 35 case as it has a side window which I want very much and white L.E.D.s which is a nice color variation from blue.

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I was actually looking at the DF35 earlier. I've heard no major complaints about it, but the 922 has better reviews from what I can gather from retail sites and forums. But if it catches your eye more, go for it and tell us how it is!

And I'm thinking about swapping my case at some point in the near future as this one has a couple issues with it (not necessarily CoolerMaster's fault). Was really hoping for that Phantom from the giveaway, but oh well xD.
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if you have to chose between the the 922 and 932 go for the latter its bigger and bigger is better oh.. just a negative on this case its like super pours and doesn't have dust filters so you will need to clean it once in a while and that is a real pain here ...
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In that case I'm going to go for the Antec DarkFleet, it has air filters so it should be easier to clean.
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I just built a new system using the Phenom II X6.

However I went with the 1090T instead of the 1100T. I just couldn't see paying the premium for a .1Ghz speed difference. Especially since you can get that .1Ghz by giving the BIOS a stern look.

I opted for the Corsair Vengeance Memory as well, but I'm thinking you are making a mistake with that particular selection. That's 3 x 4 sticks, which is intended for the triple channel Intel systems. You would want either 2 x 4 or (8GB) of 4 x 4 (16Gb) so that you run in dual channel for the AMD X6. I went with the 4 x 4.

Also, is there any particular reason that you are going with OTV as opposed to Newegg.CA? The 1100T at Newegg is 249.00 at the Egg vs 265.00 at OTV. The MB is 219.99 vs 250.65. Plus Newegg.CA has a much wider product selection.

Another thing...OTV doesn't carry CORSAIR PSUs
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I'm buying this stuff from OTV because I don't want to wait another day once I get the money from my '09 and '10 tax returns to build this thing in 2-3months as I'll have been waiting all that time for that money.

Thanks for pointing out the RAM thing to me, I think I'll pick up an 8GB kit of Patriot Viper Xtremes instead then.

Edit: as for them not carrying Corsair PSUs, it looks like they don't indeed.
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Zambezi CPUs should be available by then.
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So I've calculated I'll be able to save 200 dollars if I buy some of the stuff from Newegg.ca instead and I've changed the PSU and headset for something else (BFG PSU and SteelSeries headset). I guess I'll just have to wait a little more yet.
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BFG went bankrupt, so all of their existing products come with no manuf. warranty.

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I'll get the Scythe Choriki 2 then, I didn't know BFG had shut down.

I was considering getting the Asus HD 6970 Direct CU II but the 6970 doesn't put out a lot of heat if you keep it at stock GPU Voltages so I'm not going to bother.
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I would still go with the DirectCU, but up to you.

I do hope you go with an XFX over a Sapphire otherwise.
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Why an XFX over a Sapphire? Sapphire's are legendary. They have really good customer service.
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Heh. They both do, and there is little difference between their cards.

However, XFX is an American company (its parent is Taiwanese, but nbd...), where Sapphire is Taiwanese. XFX support is American based out of California, and Sapphire's is not. XFX's double lifetime warranty on products means every product is insured if you ever sell your product -- the warranty will transfer one time (aka, from you to me, etc. etc. ). I just tend to go American when possible, which is why I try to stay with EVGA and XFX (unless Galaxy gives me a free AcceloXtreme cooler. Then it's time to go with Taiwan).

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