blibbax

I'd be tempted to try a full reformat, it's probably not the easiest solution, but it might be the simplest.

If you can do it on a seconday drive to avoid loosing your settings etc., that would be of course ideal (though, I might be wrong, but won't Windows 7 keep your documents and settings when you reinstall anyway?).

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aekaek

How do I know if GPU runs with 2D clocks?

blibbax

Using GPU-Z, as linked earlier. One of the tabs is a "sensors" tab, and if you tick the "Continue refreshing this screen while GPU-Z is in the background" box, then you can play the game for a bit, then return and look at the GPU core clock graph to see if it went up while you were gaming.

In addition, you can see what the GPU load was like while you were gaming.

However, you said earlier that you were "not able to access GPU-Z". Can you explain what you mean by that?

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aekaek

I also tried running only in one CPU and increase priority. Still not OK ...

aekaek

At first I was not able to reach the site for GPU-Z . But the day after I did. Now its OK and it GPU-Z shows the GPU is running during gameplay. Not fullly but > 50%.

blibbax

How do the GPU clockspeed, GPU temperature, GPU memory usage and GPU memory controller load vary while gaming?

Please give specific numerical answers, as opposed to "lots" :P

Also, I can't remember if anyone's asked this before, but does this problem only effect WoW?

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aekaek

Thins exactly was GPU-Z sais. Clcks are constant: Core clock 550 MHz, Memory clock 339,6 MHz, Shader clock 1400 MHz, Temperature varies 41 C max, Memory used 178 Mb, Load varies 72 % max, Memory controller load varies max 38 %, Video engine load 0 %. I donīt have more really intense grahic games but I tried an old allied assault game and that was fine.

Also, Wow actually knows that the performance is bad. It only gives the options low or fair despite that the graphic card should support much better.

I also did the performance check in windows. Got 4,4 in normal graphics and 6,7 in game graphics. Donīt know if that gives a clue.

Neshi

it's weird that normal graphics is lower than game graphics...

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iPlayer

Try disabling the pagefile, or make it very small.

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isaak

that is odd. did you try it with aero disabled? have you rerun the assessment since installing the latest nvidia drivers/removing the old ati ones?

It should definitely work well with a 9500GT, i played for a while on a 6600GT.

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blibbax

I played it only last summer on a laptop with an onboard G86, ran smooth as butter on medium settings.

I find it odd that the GPU's max load is only 72%, that suggests that something else is holding the game up, but it's not at all obvious what that could be D:

Does the latency indicator in game come up green, yellow or red?

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Dyre Straits

I'm inclined to suggest a Windows reinstall at this point as was suggested earlier.

Also, there's a possibility that the video card is malfunctioning. Since we don't know the history of that card, it just may be a dud.

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isaak

+1 to the windows reinstall.

I think he did mention the card worked fine for some other games (?) but yeah it might still be a dud card.

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aekaek

Since I started with a fresh computer it does not seem any point to start there again.

How do you switch of aero?

It seems like the CPU is actuially what is limiting performance, not the graphic card. The CPU goes up to around 100 % on at least one of processors.

Dyre Straits

Start/
Right click on Computer/
Click on Properties/
Click on Advanced system settings/
Under Performance click on Settings/
Select: Adjust for best performance.

Exit back out and reboot the PC.

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iPlayer

Do you experience this issue in low activity areas of the game?

Might also want to look for malware in your computer.

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aekaek

Hi,

I removed areo and the normal graphic perfromance went up to 4.9. However no difference playing WoW.

The poor performance is also in low populated areas.

One thing that surprised me was that when I looked and the full performance report it showed that I had 2815 Mb of graphic memory available the card has 1024 Mb. Could it be that the old cards shared memory still haunts somewhere. Maybe it is not removed properly even if I cannot see it in any configuration or setup anymore.

I am considering if it would be worth to remove the new graphic card and let the built in one configure properly and try the game again to see whether it is the built in cards performance that limits.

iPlayer

Just ignore that. It's just adding up memory it can allocate, if necessary and when available.

Look for malware..If it's not that, then it could be some old hardware without updated drivers.

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aekaek

Now, I removed the extra graphic card and surprisingly that card did a lot better on the graphic side in WoW. Wow did not put any restrictions on what I could set the graphic to. However the response time (press "turn right" and it took a while before it turned right) was worse as I increase graphic detail. But,,, the graphics did well i.e. when i just rotated I could go up to high detail without any lag which I could not do with the nVidia card.

Any clue what could cause this. When I run performance test it said 3.7 for normal graphics and 5.1 for game graphics which was not as good as the nVidia card. Anyway when running WoW it is not as good ...

synthesis204

You do have the drivers for the 9500 GT and not for the onboard graphics installed, correct? It sounds like that could've been the issue, as restricted options are usually a result of misinstalled hardware/drivers.

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You definitely put the 9500 in a x16 PCI-e slot right? putting it in an x8 or x4 can restrict performance severely.

If its not this or the drivers I would have to put it down to the card.

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blibbax

Nowhere near the difference described here. I mean it's worth checking, but it's not the main problem, a 9500 should run fine in a x4 slot (providing it actually fits).

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synthesis204

It should, although I've never actually seen an x4 slot.

X8 has almost no restriction compared to X16 except at crazy high resolutions (aka eyefinity) and even then the difference is <10%. X4 I think would have more of an impact, but given the relatively low performance of a 9500GT, I agree with Blibbax that it shouldn't really matter.

My vote is still on misinstalled/incorrect drivers.

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aekaek

Thanks for all support from you guys!
Finally I solved it. I removed the card and then when I only had the built in one I removed the drivers for that (which was not possible when I had the nViida installed). Then I installed the nVidea card again and reinstalled the drivers for that. Now I can run WoW up to high graphics without lag or delay. When I move to the highest setting there is some delay but the graphics are still fine.

blibbax

Awesome, pleased to hear it.

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iPlayer

So, it really was a misinstalled driver issue.

Suppose the limited graphic configuration options should have given it away.

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synthesis204

I would know, considering I accidentally installed 5500FX drivers on a 7300LE and had identical symptoms

glad you resolved it mate xD

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isaak

Good to hear its solved man

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pispy

Glad you got it solved bud.. Happy game playing