Random issue?

**synthesis204** · Feb 23, 2011, 01:19 AM

So, unusual issue and want to hear thoughts.

Out of the blue a week ago my computer started suffering from this issue. Both of my monitors would go into idle (orange power button, etc.) and would not respond under any circumstance -- only thing I can do to get back into the computer is to do a cold reboot.

It seems to occur randomly -- another unusual feature is the fans in the computer seem to go to a higher rpm, as it is (usually...not always?) accompanied by a high fan hiss from the computer.

I've looked through Event Manger preceding these events, and have gotten several things (C: could not create a shadow copy due to user imposed limit, The ACPI bios doesnt contain IRQ for device in PCI slot 0 function 1, Mac fifo status 1 from yukonw7, few other misc. errors).

However, per Google, none of these seem to explain why this issue occurring -- and before you ask, yes, all my drivers for everything are up to date.

Callandor · Feb 23, 2011, 02:05 AM

Could be that a new driver that you installed is faulty and that's why whats happening is happening, I'm thinking also your motherboard's BIOS, you should do a BIOS update and see if that fixes it.

OldBuzzard · Feb 23, 2011, 10:54 AM

I've never used an nVidia card, but that sounds to me like it's a vid card/driver issue. I'm betting that the sound you hear is the GPU fan ramping up.

I'd second Callandor's advice. Make sure that you are using a known, good vid driver set.

**synthesis204** · Feb 23, 2011, 01:03 PM

I'm using the same drivers I have for months, the 266.58 nVidia drivers. I would understand why it should be the graphics drivers, but I'm not receiving any warnings or errors on the part of the graphics card (hardware wise) or the drivers (software wise) in the event viewer?

Tyrsonswood · Feb 23, 2011, 01:24 PM

Is the PC setup to go into hibernate?

Win7 loves to change these settings randomly on a few of my systems....... It's got some built in attitude that it knows better and changes settings when your not looking.

**synthesis204** · Feb 23, 2011, 09:56 PM

After the issues started I set it to high performance, no sleep / hibernate / screensaver, but I'll recheck the options.

Likewise, I realized yes, it is the graphics card fan that goes into a super whirr when the issue occurs.

Also, called up the egg, and they said if it is an actual hardware issue with the card, they'd be more than willing to refund me the full price of card + shipping, so I'm a happy camper either way.

**synthesis204** · Feb 24, 2011, 12:36 AM

Just happened again with the old drivers. This error occurred approx. 2 seconds before it:

The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x00000116 (0xfffffa80112bf100, 0xfffff880105d523c, 0xffffffffc000009a, 0x0000000000000004). A dump was saved in: C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP. Report Id: 022311-25381-01.

Any ideas?

Tyrsonswood · Feb 24, 2011, 01:00 AM

Quick google says video driver, possibly card..... One quick scan of an article mentioned waking the monitor with the mouse.....

**synthesis204** · Feb 24, 2011, 01:34 AM

If I leave it in its idle state it will continue to reboot itself. On the start up I get the standard "you didnt restart correct, boot into [various safemodes] or [regular startup] or [last known good config]".

And I've scrubbed/reinstalled the drivers several times (even using things like DriverSweeper etc.) It did start when I put in the new vga, but it only started about two weeks after that. Would it be worth the rma, in your guys opinion?

Tyrsonswood · Feb 24, 2011, 01:41 AM

Maybe.......

blibbax · Feb 24, 2011, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synthesis204

If I leave it in its idle state it will continue to reboot itself. On the start up I get the standard "you didnt restart correct, boot into [various safemodes] or [regular startup] or [last known good config]".

And I've scrubbed/reinstalled the drivers several times (even using things like DriverSweeper etc.) It did start when I put in the new vga, but it only started about two weeks after that. Would it be worth the rma, in your guys opinion?

RMAing another one? D:

I'd be tempted to make a fresh install on another partition or an old drive, just to see if it exhibits the same issues. That way you can rule out software problems entirely.

**synthesis204** · Feb 24, 2011, 06:39 PM

A couple random posts mentioned something about an underpowered Northbridge/ram being the issue. Bumped up voltages slightly, going to see if the issue still occurs.

OldBuzzard · Feb 24, 2011, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synthesis204

Just happened again with the old drivers. This error occurred approx. 2 seconds before it:

The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x00000116 (0xfffffa80112bf100, 0xfffff880105d523c, 0xffffffffc000009a, 0x0000000000000004). A dump was saved in: C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP. Report Id: 022311-25381-01.

Any ideas?

YUP...that's the infamous TDR BSOD.

Give this a try. It's what cured TDRs for me:

1. Run MSCONFIG in a command prompt.
2. Click the BOOT tab
3. Click on ADVANCED options.
4. Put a CHECK in "Number of Processors", and then select the number of processors your system has. 1 for a single, 2 for a dual core, 4 for a quad.
5. Put a CHECK in "Maximum memory", and key in amount of RAM you have if it hasn't already put it in.
6. Click OK, Click APPLY, and re-boot when prompted.

**synthesis204** · Feb 27, 2011, 04:30 PM

Weird. I restored the bios to normal, re-OC'd my cpu, and upped the NB voltage a bit and haven't had the issues in days (first time in weeks). I'll see if it occurs again, but seems to have fixed it

**synthesis204** · Mar 13, 2011, 07:11 PM

Took a nice hiatus, but the issue just occured again. Adjusting voltages/resetting bios options didn't help.

@OldB: if it's an Intel processor, do you put the number of threaded cores (IE 12 for a 980X, or 6?).

Also, it keeps setting the maximum memory to 0 regardless of whatever I do...and having BSOD'd with the maximum memory set to zero, I now have to go into my Linux partition as I cannot get into Windows under any circumstance (automatic BSOD on boot into Windows even under safe, the cmd from System Repair cannot change that value). Looks like I'm going to end up reinstalling Windows. At least it's only a 60GB drive with little to no sensitive data xD

Feb 23, 2011, 01:19 AM	#1
synthesis204 Dragonborn Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,175 Rep Power: 97 System Specs	Random issue? So, unusual issue and want to hear thoughts. Out of the blue a week ago my computer started suffering from this issue. Both of my monitors would go into idle (orange power button, etc.) and would not respond under any circumstance -- only thing I can do to get back into the computer is to do a cold reboot. It seems to occur randomly -- another unusual feature is the fans in the computer seem to go to a higher rpm, as it is (usually...not always?) accompanied by a high fan hiss from the computer. I've looked through Event Manger preceding these events, and have gotten several things (C: could not create a shadow copy due to user imposed limit, The ACPI bios doesnt contain IRQ for device in PCI slot 0 function 1, Mac fifo status 1 from yukonw7, few other misc. errors). However, per Google, none of these seem to explain why this issue occurring -- and before you ask, yes, all my drivers for everything are up to date. __________________ Donate the spare computing power of your PC to help to cure alzheimers, ALS, huntington's, parkinson's disease and cancer: Fold for HH!

Feb 23, 2011, 02:05 AM	#2
Callandor Forged on Dragonmount Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 7,237 Rep Power: 304 System Specs	Re: Random issue? Could be that a new driver that you installed is faulty and that's why whats happening is happening, I'm thinking also your motherboard's BIOS, you should do a BIOS update and see if that fixes it. __________________

Feb 23, 2011, 10:54 AM	#3
OldBuzzard DH's oldest Geek Join Date: May 2003 Location: Oberlin, OH Posts: 2,783 Rep Power: 145 System Specs	Re: Random issue? I've never used an nVidia card, but that sounds to me like it's a vid card/driver issue. I'm betting that the sound you hear is the GPU fan ramping up. I'd second Callandor's advice. Make sure that you are using a known, good vid driver set. __________________ When looking for a reason as to why things go wrong, never rule out sheer STUPIDITY

Feb 23, 2011, 01:03 PM	Thread Starter #4
synthesis204 Dragonborn Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,175 Rep Power: 97 System Specs	Re: Random issue? I'm using the same drivers I have for months, the 266.58 nVidia drivers. I would understand why it should be the graphics drivers, but I'm not receiving any warnings or errors on the part of the graphics card (hardware wise) or the drivers (software wise) in the event viewer? __________________ Donate the spare computing power of your PC to help to cure alzheimers, ALS, huntington's, parkinson's disease and cancer: Fold for HH!

Feb 23, 2011, 09:56 PM	Thread Starter #6
synthesis204 Dragonborn Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,175 Rep Power: 97 System Specs	Re: Random issue? After the issues started I set it to high performance, no sleep / hibernate / screensaver, but I'll recheck the options. Likewise, I realized yes, it is the graphics card fan that goes into a super whirr when the issue occurs. Also, called up the egg, and they said if it is an actual hardware issue with the card, they'd be more than willing to refund me the full price of card + shipping, so I'm a happy camper either way. __________________ Donate the spare computing power of your PC to help to cure alzheimers, ALS, huntington's, parkinson's disease and cancer: Fold for HH! Last edited by synthesis204; Feb 23, 2011 at 10:16 PM.

Feb 24, 2011, 12:36 AM	Thread Starter #7
synthesis204 Dragonborn Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,175 Rep Power: 97 System Specs	Re: Random issue? Just happened again with the old drivers. This error occurred approx. 2 seconds before it: The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x00000116 (0xfffffa80112bf100, 0xfffff880105d523c, 0xffffffffc000009a, 0x0000000000000004). A dump was saved in: C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP. Report Id: 022311-25381-01. Any ideas? __________________ Donate the spare computing power of your PC to help to cure alzheimers, ALS, huntington's, parkinson's disease and cancer: Fold for HH!

Feb 24, 2011, 01:34 AM	Thread Starter #9
synthesis204 Dragonborn Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,175 Rep Power: 97 System Specs	Re: Random issue? If I leave it in its idle state it will continue to reboot itself. On the start up I get the standard "you didnt restart correct, boot into [various safemodes] or [regular startup] or [last known good config]". And I've scrubbed/reinstalled the drivers several times (even using things like DriverSweeper etc.) It did start when I put in the new vga, but it only started about two weeks after that. Would it be worth the rma, in your guys opinion? __________________ Donate the spare computing power of your PC to help to cure alzheimers, ALS, huntington's, parkinson's disease and cancer: Fold for HH!

Feb 24, 2011, 06:39 PM	Thread Starter #12
synthesis204 Dragonborn Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,175 Rep Power: 97 System Specs	Re: Random issue? A couple random posts mentioned something about an underpowered Northbridge/ram being the issue. Bumped up voltages slightly, going to see if the issue still occurs. __________________ Donate the spare computing power of your PC to help to cure alzheimers, ALS, huntington's, parkinson's disease and cancer: Fold for HH!

Feb 27, 2011, 04:30 PM	Thread Starter #14
synthesis204 Dragonborn Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,175 Rep Power: 97 System Specs	Re: Random issue? Weird. I restored the bios to normal, re-OC'd my cpu, and upped the NB voltage a bit and haven't had the issues in days (first time in weeks). I'll see if it occurs again, but seems to have fixed it __________________ Donate the spare computing power of your PC to help to cure alzheimers, ALS, huntington's, parkinson's disease and cancer: Fold for HH!

Mar 13, 2011, 07:11 PM	Thread Starter #15
synthesis204 Dragonborn Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,175 Rep Power: 97 System Specs	Re: Random issue? Took a nice hiatus, but the issue just occured again. Adjusting voltages/resetting bios options didn't help. @OldB: if it's an Intel processor, do you put the number of threaded cores (IE 12 for a 980X, or 6?). Also, it keeps setting the maximum memory to 0 regardless of whatever I do...and having BSOD'd with the maximum memory set to zero, I now have to go into my Linux partition as I cannot get into Windows under any circumstance (automatic BSOD on boot into Windows even under safe, the cmd from System Repair cannot change that value). Looks like I'm going to end up reinstalling Windows. At least it's only a 60GB drive with little to no sensitive data xD __________________ Donate the spare computing power of your PC to help to cure alzheimers, ALS, huntington's, parkinson's disease and cancer: Fold for HH! Last edited by synthesis204; Mar 13, 2011 at 09:56 PM.