Will 2 set of 3x4gb triple channel ram work?

prim3geek · Mar 24, 2011, 01:56 PM

Hi guys im trying to accomplish 24gb of ram for 3d rendering, video rendering on after effects. My mobo is sabertooth x58 which supports triple channel with 6 dimm slots. Now i found this cheap 12gb 3x4gb 1600mhz gskill triple channel memory way cheaper than corsair dominator so what i wanted to do is buy 2 set of those. I wonder if that would work, will i end up 24gb? and still triple channel? will my transfer rate slow down or any disadvantage?

Im running win7 64bit, i have this experience before when my rig is q8400 and mobo is gigabyte g31m-es2c 4 slots i bought 2 identical dual channel kit just to have 8 gb of ram 2x2gb each set. Well i did have 8gb but i notice that my transfer rate were slower than before. So i ended up selling the other set and just stick with 4gb so sad..

So i really wanted to make sure this is the memory model GSKILL 12GB (3x4GB) Ripjaws DDR3 1600Mhz CL9 (F3-12800CL9T-8GBRL)

Also i would like to ask if i would have an advantage on speed if i use 2 sets of Corsair Dominator-GT DHX 12GB DDR3 1866mhz (CMT12GX3M6A1866C9) since ripjaws is cheaper but only have 1600mhz while dominator is 1866 and my mobo supports it, is it a good idea to buy this expensive memory. I dont usually play games but if will dramatically speed up the rendering process id go with it but if there is not much difference well i'd go with ripjaws.

Thanks a lot

Judas · Mar 24, 2011, 04:02 PM

it works... great..

just stick it in..

i've only had a few cases where motherboards that i know have had issues...... either it work or doesn't..

look up your motherboard model on google with 24gb as your search item..

the ripjaw is great

Tipstaff · Mar 24, 2011, 05:51 PM

I have to add to this as it's not as cut and dry as Judas is making it out to be. I know this for a fact as I'm having an issue right now with a system I built for a client, and have researched this thing to death trying to get it work.

*Just wanted to say this up front. Whatever you take from this post don't let it scare you, or deter you from trying to run 24GB of RAM. I have had it work, in the past, and there are a ton of success stories, but there are also a ton of unsuccessful ones like my current one, which is the point of this post. All I can say is read everything you can about it, then make a choice. Also, buy your RAM from a seller that you are able to return it too just in case it doesn't work (make them aware of what you intended to do with it too so they know up front that you "might" be back). Or even better, get THEM to install it for you. That way they can try different kits until they find one that works.*

All I can say is, be careful. There are a half a dozen or so forums that talk about "successful" systems running specific 24GB of RAM on X58 board (what kits works, what don't work, and what settings to use), disappearing memory issues, and so forth, so be sure to read up on this. There's also a couple threads on Asus' website right HERE , and another HERE to do with Sabertooth X58 board. I highly suggest reading through them, as well as any others you can find on their site, and others.

My warning comes from trying, like hell, to get 24GB of Mushkin RAM to work on an Intel DX58OG board.. newest of the newer X58 boards with SATA3 and USB3, and it won't work. Period. Specifically I have 2 kits of THIS RAM. Damn thing works fine with 12GB, but as soon as I start loading up Channel B I either get black screen boot issues, or Windows locks up once I get past 16GB. I'm trying like hell to find a compatible set of RAM right now. From what I can tell I need to stick with 1066mhz or 1333mhz RAM, perferably 1.65v (but 1.5 might work in some cases), buy RAM that has standard timings (9-9-9-24, but nothing faster), and to stick with either Corsairs XMS3, Crucial, or Patriot. Also, Windows 7 SP1 "apparently" has some sort of fix for the disappearing memory issue, however I didn't run into that issue before installing SP1 (only installed it to see if it would fix the crashing... which was fun as SP1 wouldn't install with more than 12GB installed..

).

BTW, if you find a stable/compatible kit, or any other info, PLEASE, I'M BEGGING YOU, post back here with the results.

Tyrsonswood · Mar 24, 2011, 06:33 PM

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which was fun as SP1 wouldn't install with more than 12GB installed..

But that's the fix for the problem...... You should know Microsoft's ways by now.

Judas · Mar 24, 2011, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Tipstaff

I have to add to this as it's not as cut and dry as Judas is making it out to be. I know this for a fact as I'm having an issue right now with a system I built for a client, and have researched this thing to death trying to get it work.

I agree it's not as cut and dry... but i find it totally unpredictable and short of trying it for ones self... there really isn't much that can be done.

For example you mension the corsair XMS series ram... which worked flawlessly for you.. but unfortunately doesn't work at all for me in similare or even the same motherboards sometimes.

Personally I can't get any of the corsair and kingston or even the ocz or more generic ram to either be seen or work... i get the black screen issue.. or missing ram.... sometimes no post at all which i've determined to figuring its unable to read any of it at all.

Since jumping to G.Skill ripjaw and Patriots own memory... and installing it.. i haven't had any problems whatso ever.

Actually today i'm running 3 different brands of memory in the machine for testing purposes... I've 2x sticks of OCZ Gold 4gb, 2x sticks of GSkill ripjaw and 2x sticks of patriots stype of memory... (all of which have heat spreaders)... now considering the fact that there is not only different rated speeds and timings across the board with these 6x4gb sticks...

Even the OCZ sticks aren't "rated" for 1600mhz mode... however with Default stock Voltage off DDR3.... i'm able to set in the bios the 1600mhz setting... the lowest timings of all 3.... Command datarate however is 2T (understandably) and haven't had a single glitch hitch or anything.

Windows 7 x64 detects it..

Yet like i mentioned previously.. corsairs XMS ram and others wouldn't even post.. wouldn't even sustain a 1066mhz without bsoding.... weird issues.... irritating issues all over the place.

Bizarre doesn't even begin to explain it, as what will work on one board sometimes won't work in the next... even if they share the same assembly line.

In anything that anyone purchases today.. i always suggest that you make sure you can return it with a full refund if it doesn't work.. always make sure of this... because even when it should work... sometimes things just don't.

prim3geek · Mar 25, 2011, 12:44 AM

guys im really flattered with your imputs T_T and i really appreciate your effort geez those are long comments

thanks a lot.

May be i should just stick with 1 kit triple channel 1600mhz 12gb ram from gskill which has been proven to work unlike making it 24gb that will just be PITA and in the future i hope when i upgrade i can find another triple channel but larger capacity as 2 sets.. i never had found a thread that never complaints..

thanks a lot guys

**synthesis204** · Mar 25, 2011, 02:09 AM

What you could possibly do is purchase a second set of 12GB, see if it works, and if it doesn't return it. You would have to check the store's return policy, but it's definitely an option.

And as someone with 12GB of RAM...how are you managing to use all 12GB? I can't even with photoshop, aftereffects, and premiere running/rendering.

Tipstaff · Mar 25, 2011, 03:39 AM

I finally got it to work on my end, and believe it or not it was with the RAM I least expected: Kingston Value RAM. 3 x KVR1333D3N9K2/8G kits to be exact (the newer low profile kits, not the regular height/older ones). And guess who recommended them? Intel. It was suggested by one of their higher tiered techs that due to their design, specifically their shorter circuit path from chip to connector, and something about capacitance (not needing as much to drive the chips or some such), that they might work. And sure enough they did.

Funny enough, as a test I mixed and matched the RAM with the Mushkin, with one channel full of the Mushkin, the other with the Kingston, and it still worked.

Mar 24, 2011, 01:56 PM	#1
prim3geek HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	Will 2 set of 3x4gb triple channel ram work? Hi guys im trying to accomplish 24gb of ram for 3d rendering, video rendering on after effects. My mobo is sabertooth x58 which supports triple channel with 6 dimm slots. Now i found this cheap 12gb 3x4gb 1600mhz gskill triple channel memory way cheaper than corsair dominator so what i wanted to do is buy 2 set of those. I wonder if that would work, will i end up 24gb? and still triple channel? will my transfer rate slow down or any disadvantage? Im running win7 64bit, i have this experience before when my rig is q8400 and mobo is gigabyte g31m-es2c 4 slots i bought 2 identical dual channel kit just to have 8 gb of ram 2x2gb each set. Well i did have 8gb but i notice that my transfer rate were slower than before. So i ended up selling the other set and just stick with 4gb so sad.. So i really wanted to make sure this is the memory model GSKILL 12GB (3x4GB) Ripjaws DDR3 1600Mhz CL9 (F3-12800CL9T-8GBRL) Also i would like to ask if i would have an advantage on speed if i use 2 sets of Corsair Dominator-GT DHX 12GB DDR3 1866mhz (CMT12GX3M6A1866C9) since ripjaws is cheaper but only have 1600mhz while dominator is 1866 and my mobo supports it, is it a good idea to buy this expensive memory. I dont usually play games but if will dramatically speed up the rendering process id go with it but if there is not much difference well i'd go with ripjaws. Thanks a lot

Mar 24, 2011, 05:51 PM	#3
Tipstaff HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Real capital of Canada: Torauna Posts: 6,773 Rep Power: 190 System Specs	Re: Will 2 set of 3x4gb triple channel ram work? I have to add to this as it's not as cut and dry as Judas is making it out to be. I know this for a fact as I'm having an issue right now with a system I built for a client, and have researched this thing to death trying to get it work. Just wanted to say this up front. Whatever you take from this post don't let it scare you, or deter you from trying to run 24GB of RAM. I have had it work, in the past, and there are a ton of success stories, but there are also a ton of unsuccessful ones like my current one, which is the point of this post. All I can say is read everything you can about it, then make a choice. Also, buy your RAM from a seller that you are able to return it too just in case it doesn't work (make them aware of what you intended to do with it too so they know up front that you "might" be back). Or even better, get THEM to install it for you. That way they can try different kits until they find one that works. All I can say is, be careful. There are a half a dozen or so forums that talk about "successful" systems running specific 24GB of RAM on X58 board (what kits works, what don't work, and what settings to use), disappearing memory issues, and so forth, so be sure to read up on this. There's also a couple threads on Asus' website right HERE , and another HERE to do with Sabertooth X58 board. I highly suggest reading through them, as well as any others you can find on their site, and others. My warning comes from trying, like hell, to get 24GB of Mushkin RAM to work on an Intel DX58OG board.. newest of the newer X58 boards with SATA3 and USB3, and it won't work. Period. Specifically I have 2 kits of THIS RAM. Damn thing works fine with 12GB, but as soon as I start loading up Channel B I either get black screen boot issues, or Windows locks up once I get past 16GB. I'm trying like hell to find a compatible set of RAM right now. From what I can tell I need to stick with 1066mhz or 1333mhz RAM, perferably 1.65v (but 1.5 might work in some cases), buy RAM that has standard timings (9-9-9-24, but nothing faster), and to stick with either Corsairs XMS3, Crucial, or Patriot. Also, Windows 7 SP1 "apparently" has some sort of fix for the disappearing memory issue, however I didn't run into that issue before installing SP1 (only installed it to see if it would fix the crashing... which was fun as SP1 wouldn't install with more than 12GB installed.. ). BTW, if you find a stable/compatible kit, or any other info, PLEASE, I'M BEGGING YOU, post back here with the results. __________________ Portal: The Flash Version _________________________________ Brain: So, you sacked the cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker? Mr. Sackett: The second cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker I've sacked since the sixth sitting sheet slitter got sick. Last edited by Tipstaff; Mar 24, 2011 at 05:57 PM.

Mar 25, 2011, 12:44 AM	Thread Starter #6
prim3geek HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	Re: Will 2 set of 3x4gb triple channel ram work? guys im really flattered with your imputs T_T and i really appreciate your effort geez those are long comments thanks a lot. May be i should just stick with 1 kit triple channel 1600mhz 12gb ram from gskill which has been proven to work unlike making it 24gb that will just be PITA and in the future i hope when i upgrade i can find another triple channel but larger capacity as 2 sets.. i never had found a thread that never complaints.. thanks a lot guys

Mar 25, 2011, 02:09 AM	#7
synthesis204 Dragonborn Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,175 Rep Power: 97 System Specs	Re: Will 2 set of 3x4gb triple channel ram work? What you could possibly do is purchase a second set of 12GB, see if it works, and if it doesn't return it. You would have to check the store's return policy, but it's definitely an option. And as someone with 12GB of RAM...how are you managing to use all 12GB? I can't even with photoshop, aftereffects, and premiere running/rendering. __________________ Donate the spare computing power of your PC to help to cure alzheimers, ALS, huntington's, parkinson's disease and cancer: Fold for HH!

Mar 25, 2011, 03:39 AM	#8
Tipstaff HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Real capital of Canada: Torauna Posts: 6,773 Rep Power: 190 System Specs	Re: Will 2 set of 3x4gb triple channel ram work? I finally got it to work on my end, and believe it or not it was with the RAM I least expected: Kingston Value RAM. 3 x KVR1333D3N9K2/8G kits to be exact (the newer low profile kits, not the regular height/older ones). And guess who recommended them? Intel. It was suggested by one of their higher tiered techs that due to their design, specifically their shorter circuit path from chip to connector, and something about capacitance (not needing as much to drive the chips or some such), that they might work. And sure enough they did. Funny enough, as a test I mixed and matched the RAM with the Mushkin, with one channel full of the Mushkin, the other with the Kingston, and it still worked. __________________ Portal: The Flash Version _________________________________ Brain: So, you sacked the cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker? Mr. Sackett: The second cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker I've sacked since the sixth sitting sheet slitter got sick. Last edited by Tipstaff; Mar 25, 2011 at 06:35 PM.