UPS

BlueMak · Jun 12, 2011, 05:22 PM

Cause I know almost nothing about them, what would I need to protect (and let it work for at least a couple of minutes) my PC including monitor?

***Veridian3*** · Jun 12, 2011, 05:41 PM

I would imagine that as long as you pack it well... like loads of bubble wrap and a sturdy box, it will get from place to place ok. DHL tend to be a little better though.

BlueMak · Jun 12, 2011, 05:43 PM

Thanks, although I was thinking that perhaps something like this might be a bit better.

NILOX UPS SMART 1100 - UPS - E-SHOP.GR

Or was the smiley at the end because of it?

***Veridian3*** · Jun 12, 2011, 05:46 PM

Yeah, just my crappy sense of humour.

BlueMak · Jun 12, 2011, 06:22 PM

It's not that bad. Just a bit ice cold. Women love that.

blibbax · Jun 12, 2011, 07:13 PM

Looks good to me BlueMak. Not sure about the brand though, never heard of them.

I presume it comes with the cables to connect those power outputs to your monitor/PC - I've not seen a female to male cable of that type before, only ever power socket to PC/monitor.

Tyrsonswood · Jun 12, 2011, 08:46 PM

Those cables are fairly "common" but not in general use anymore...... Years ago everybody turned on their monitor via the PSU in the computer that way.

You know, back in the caveman days.

blibbax · Jun 12, 2011, 08:58 PM

:O

I saw a PSU with an output of that kind once, and wondered what on earth it was for

Oh, and btw, nothing wrong with a dry sense of humour V3

Kizo · Jun 12, 2011, 09:00 PM

From my experience, the best UPS manufacturer is APC. We use it where I work.

I don't own one myself because they're a little expensive...

Anyway, when buying you should watch for the same things as PSU (i.e. real capacity), since the declared one is not always what it is...

Also overvoltage protection (AVR, OVP) is a must.. and USB connection with PC is a nice thing to have...

Check also if the battery is replaceable, or you will have to buy a new one when the battery weakens (usually after cca 3 years)

I currently have a Nova AVR 625VA which holds my current system about 15min. even though its a year old now.

Cheers

BlueMak · Jun 12, 2011, 09:37 PM

Thanks guys. The cost for anything good enough is way too high. Much higher than expected. From next Monday we are going to have rolling blackouts, I will have to rely on my surge protected sockets than a UPS lol. Wish me luck.

blibbax · Jun 12, 2011, 10:05 PM

Holy crap oO

That due to strikes at power stations or something? Or a lack of fuel to put in them?

Also, what made you think that the one that you originally linked wasn't good enough?

BlueMak · Jun 12, 2011, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blibbax

Holy crap oO

That due to strikes at power stations or something? Or a lack of fuel to put in them?

Also, what made you think that the one that you originally linked wasn't good enough?

Strikes. How could it be lack of fuel?

Because it looks like it is built in such a way to directly plug in the PSU in it. That's not what I need. I need one with at least a couple of sockets to plug in computer, monitor, external drives, PS3, Xbox 360 at the same time.

blibbax · Jun 13, 2011, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueMak

Strikes. How could it be lack of fuel?

Because it looks like it is built in such a way to directly plug in the PSU in it. That's not what I need. I need one with at least a couple of sockets to plug in computer, monitor, external drives, PS3, Xbox 360 at the same time.

I see.

I was thinking perhaps that if the government had a fuel shortage (perhaps due to inability to borrow to buy it) they'd be turning off power stations periodically to conserve what fuel they had.

Anyway, good luck!

Takaharu · Jun 13, 2011, 11:35 AM

If you know you've got a blackout (ie: Something that doesn't automatically shut down your PC) you can go for something like this. Presumably the wattage is insufficient but that should put you on the right track.

BlueMak · Jun 13, 2011, 12:53 PM

The problem is the cost, I would probably need something about 700W to be safe, but anything close to that costs at least 150 euros + if you are lucky.
Thank you, but I will just have to take my chances.

Blibbax, I don't know about other countries, but, the government doesn't buy fuel for the companies. As for the particular company, it has its own resource gathering facilities (for example coal, etc).

blibbax · Jun 13, 2011, 01:02 PM

I meant state run power stations, I've no idea whether or not you have any though.

Judas · Jun 14, 2011, 04:49 PM

Personally...... if you can afford it.... it's worth EVERY DAMN PENNY to go with an APC made UPS..

and depending on your machine..... nothing less then 600VA model... best if you can snag one with a built in LCD that can give you a volt/watt/amp/hz/input/output/minutes remaining and load information.

APC's warranty is out of this world as well... not to mention their guarantee to replace anything and everything reguardless of the cost IF their unit doesn't do it's job.

Ever since the one lightning strike that blew up one of my customers machines that i had sold them a APC UPS with, i've been quite impressed and happy....

APC replaced the unit with a new one.. and sent them a cheque with the exact value of all the equipment that was connected to it even if some of it was quite old.. (provided that you kept the receipts)

The guy had spent about $2000 on the computer.. but kept an old printer and speakers... the speakers were fairly cheap.. but the printer he had paid nearly $600 for years ago was paid in full as well... not to mention he had a LCD 37" Inch HDTV that he had bought and used with it for nearly 4 years.. it was only a 720p tv.. but orginal retail on it when it was purchased was almost $5000....

APC Paid out a wopping $9600 by the time everything was caculated.

And it was done within a short period of time...

Unit was registered prior.

the unit was boxed up in it's charred state in the orginal box with the pass code slips and such.... a copy of the purchase receipt was sent along with it back to apc.

apc had also requested that all the orginal receipts for the connected devices that were damaged to be sent along with it.

5 weeks later... cheque arrived with a brand new APC ups newer model.

Jun 12, 2011, 05:22 PM	#1
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,465 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	UPS Cause I know almost nothing about them, what would I need to protect (and let it work for at least a couple of minutes) my PC including monitor? __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Jun 12, 2011, 05:41 PM	#2
*Veridian3* Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cloaked Posts: 5,028 Rep Power: 181	Re: UPS I would imagine that as long as you pack it well... like loads of bubble wrap and a sturdy box, it will get from place to place ok. DHL tend to be a little better though.

Jun 12, 2011, 05:43 PM	Thread Starter #3
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,465 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	Re: UPS Thanks, although I was thinking that perhaps something like this might be a bit better. NILOX UPS SMART 1100 - UPS - E-SHOP.GR Or was the smiley at the end because of it? __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Jun 12, 2011, 05:46 PM	#4
*Veridian3* Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cloaked Posts: 5,028 Rep Power: 181	Re: UPS Yeah, just my crappy sense of humour.

Jun 12, 2011, 06:22 PM	Thread Starter #5
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,465 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	Re: UPS It's not that bad. Just a bit ice cold. Women love that. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Jun 12, 2011, 07:13 PM	#6
blibbax What does this do? Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 4,231 Rep Power: 254 System Specs	Re: UPS Looks good to me BlueMak. Not sure about the brand though, never heard of them. I presume it comes with the cables to connect those power outputs to your monitor/PC - I've not seen a female to male cable of that type before, only ever power socket to PC/monitor. __________________ Donate the spare computing power of your PC to help to cure Alzheimer's, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease and cancer: Fold for HH!

Jun 12, 2011, 08:58 PM	#8
blibbax What does this do? Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 4,231 Rep Power: 254 System Specs	Re: UPS :O I saw a PSU with an output of that kind once, and wondered what on earth it was for Oh, and btw, nothing wrong with a dry sense of humour V3 __________________ Donate the spare computing power of your PC to help to cure Alzheimer's, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease and cancer: Fold for HH!

Jun 12, 2011, 09:00 PM	#9
Kizo HHs Valve fanatic/C++ dev Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 281 Rep Power: 73 System Specs	Re: UPS From my experience, the best UPS manufacturer is APC. We use it where I work. I don't own one myself because they're a little expensive... Anyway, when buying you should watch for the same things as PSU (i.e. real capacity), since the declared one is not always what it is... Also overvoltage protection (AVR, OVP) is a must.. and USB connection with PC is a nice thing to have... Check also if the battery is replaceable, or you will have to buy a new one when the battery weakens (usually after cca 3 years) I currently have a Nova AVR 625VA which holds my current system about 15min. even though its a year old now. Cheers Last edited by Kizo; Jun 12, 2011 at 09:06 PM.

Jun 12, 2011, 09:37 PM	Thread Starter #10
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,465 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	Re: UPS Thanks guys. The cost for anything good enough is way too high. Much higher than expected. From next Monday we are going to have rolling blackouts, I will have to rely on my surge protected sockets than a UPS lol. Wish me luck. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Jun 12, 2011, 10:05 PM	#11
blibbax What does this do? Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 4,231 Rep Power: 254 System Specs	Re: UPS Holy crap oO That due to strikes at power stations or something? Or a lack of fuel to put in them? Also, what made you think that the one that you originally linked wasn't good enough? __________________ Donate the spare computing power of your PC to help to cure Alzheimer's, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease and cancer: Fold for HH!

Jun 13, 2011, 11:35 AM	#14
Takaharu I can fart in 7 languages Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: England, UK Posts: 1,850 Rep Power: 113 System Specs	Re: UPS If you know you've got a blackout (ie: Something that doesn't automatically shut down your PC) you can go for something like this. Presumably the wattage is insufficient but that should put you on the right track. __________________ I don't get paid to know the answer, therefore I'm far more likely to give you a straight and honest answer. Mods Rig, Box Mods Rig, Folding details

Jun 13, 2011, 12:53 PM	Thread Starter #15
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,465 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	Re: UPS The problem is the cost, I would probably need something about 700W to be safe, but anything close to that costs at least 150 euros + if you are lucky. Thank you, but I will just have to take my chances. Blibbax, I don't know about other countries, but, the government doesn't buy fuel for the companies. As for the particular company, it has its own resource gathering facilities (for example coal, etc). __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Jun 13, 2011, 01:02 PM	#16
blibbax What does this do? Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 4,231 Rep Power: 254 System Specs	Re: UPS I meant state run power stations, I've no idea whether or not you have any though. __________________ Donate the spare computing power of your PC to help to cure Alzheimer's, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease and cancer: Fold for HH!