Virtualisation

Takaharu · Nov 29, 2011, 10:04 PM

I made a post quite a while back with a similar problem but it seemed to be rectified when I reset the BIOS. This seems to have caught up with me again.

When I try to open VMWare for a 64-bit system it tells me that VT is disabled and that I can't use 64-bit support. This is the case with several of the systems that I have.
I have checked my settings in the BIOS and Virtualisation and VT-d are both enabled. I've also reset the BIOS back to defaults (where VT-d is disabled by default) but without success. I then went back and enabled VT-d with the same problem; I still can't use 64-bit systems.
The same thing happens with Virtual PC - when I try to open a 64-bit system it says that I have an x86 system and can't run the virtual machine.
My Windows installation is still 64-bit, as you would gather, but I'm not getting anywhere with the virtual machines.

Can anyone suggest anything else to try?

I've looked around a lot and this is the only issue I'm coming across - there are no errors, no faulty applications, nothing else that I can find wrong with my PC.

IvanV · Nov 29, 2011, 10:32 PM

Do you have the option to enable Secure Virtual Machine in your BIOS? This option is necessary if you want to create a 64-bit VM, but it might be AMD specific, so I can't say if it is relevant to you and what would be the Intel equivalent if there is one.

Takaharu · Nov 29, 2011, 10:48 PM

VMWare mentions something about Trusted Execution but I can't find anything of the sort in the BIOS.

IvanV · Nov 29, 2011, 11:44 PM

From what I was able to find (this), make sure that the following things are enabled:

Intel Virtualization Technology
No-Excute Memory Protection
VT-d

As for TXT (Trusted Execution Technology), apparently, it's a chipset feature and I'm not sure if P67 has it or whether it's necessary. Also, the article I linked to contains a link to a tool that checks if the system is ready to host 64-bit VMs.

Takaharu · Nov 30, 2011, 07:58 AM

Well the virtualisation is enabled and VT-d is enabled but I don't see any settings referring to memory protection.
As for the tool, it says that my system does not have hardware-assisted virtualisation.

For the record, my chipset is X58, not P67.

IvanV · Nov 30, 2011, 11:01 AM

My bad, I should have known by the CPU designation, I wanted to look at the board manual and the first result by both Bing and Google is the link to P67 Extreme6 for some reason.

Hopefully I got it right this time and this is the manual for your motherboard. On page 62, it shows the Advanced section of the BIOS and the second item below Intel (R) Virtualization Tech is the No-Excute Memory Protection option. It does say that the No-Excute Memory Protection option will be hidden if the CPU does not support it, but that should not be the case.

Takaharu · Nov 30, 2011, 12:25 PM

Yeah, I actually found it not long after making that post; I must've ignored it whilst looking for the phrase "trusted" with "memory". That setting is enabled by default. I disabled it just for a test and, believe it or not, it still doesn't work.
I've e-mailed ASRock support as well for sanity's sake. Being a large company, I'd expect that it may take a few days for them to respond.

I may try a bit of trial and error this evening to mix & match settings now that I know about the "no-execute memory protection" setting.

Sihastru · Nov 30, 2011, 04:30 PM

Give this thing a try: Processor Check for 64-Bit Compatibility

Takaharu · Dec 7, 2011, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sihastru

Give this thing a try: Processor Check for 64-Bit Compatibility

See post #5.

I'm still awaiting a response from ASRock. Has anyone got any other ideas on what I can try?

IvanV · Dec 7, 2011, 02:47 PM

You could try this utility. It's a bit more hassle as it requires you to burn it to a CD and boot from it, but it's sometimes capable of giving useful info on why you don't have 64-bit guest support at the moment.

Also, would you consider migrating to VMLite? I'm running a Windows 7 x64 guest on it even though that utility Sihastru posted says that I wouldn't be able to do that on VMWare (although that might be due to the obsoleteness of that particular utility).

blibbax · Dec 7, 2011, 03:04 PM

You might never get a response from Asrock, incidentally.

Sihastru · Dec 7, 2011, 04:28 PM

Ok, post #5 was indeed informative to my query. (I R facepalm)

I do have an idea.

VT-d is required for I/O MMU hardware level virtualisation (direct access of a virtual machine to some hardware components), and isn't really what you need to enable. VT-d is supported only by a few of the VMWare packages (VMWare calls it VMDirectPath and I think it's only available in ESXi/ESX). It does not give you 64bit guest support on 32/64bit host.

What you need is called VT-x. VT-x is what you need to enable support for 64bit guests. ASROCK sometimes call this "Vanderpool" or simply "Virtualisation Tech".

I hope this is enough to wash away some of my shame from #8.

Takaharu · Dec 8, 2011, 07:51 AM

I tried looking for any term matching "Vanderpool" in the BIOS with no success.

However, when I tried out the bootable CD that IvanV suggested it showed that I passed almost every test. The ones that stuck out the most were at the bottom, showing that I could indeed run VMWare 64-bit. In light of this, is it possible that something isn't registering in Windows, despite having the necessary options enabled in the BIOS?
I really don't fancy reformatting but for lack of a better option...

Sihastru · Dec 8, 2011, 08:15 AM

OK, I looked around the interwebs and your motherboard has VT-x simply named as "Intel(R) Virtualisation Tech". In the Advanced tab, the section is "Configure advanced CPU settings".

There is another option that you should play with, in the same section, it's called A20M. This setting refers to "Gate A20" and it influences the way memory is managed (it's old as sh*t, most BIOSes have it hidden and correctly set). It refers to the way the CPU will access the remapped memory space. This is the only setting I can think of that could influence the detection of 64bit compliant hardware properly.

I can't tell you exactly what is the correct setting for A20M you're looking for, but I can tell you that you might have problems concerning the detection of the full 24GB of RAM that I see you have installed. ASROCK (and some ASUS motherboards) are using this setting as a workaround exactly for this setup.

Don't worry, it's not permanent, if you get in trouble, just switch it back to what it was or some other setting. You'll just have to experiment a little.

If this fails, the next one on the list is the "No-Execute Memory Protection" option, or NX-bit how the world knows it, but this really shouldn't influence things, since it's a well known feature. You could give it a shot though.

Takaharu · Dec 8, 2011, 10:29 AM

Thanks, Sihastru, I'll give it a go.
As I mentioned above, I've played around a bit with the Virtualisation setting, the VT-d setting and the "No-Execute Memory Protection" option to no avail but I'll add Gate A20 to the mix and see what comes out.

Still strange how it used to work but now doesn't. C'est la vie.

Takaharu · Dec 8, 2011, 10:27 PM

Well I tried out the A20M, went from disabled to enabled (VT-d was disabled at the time) but still no joy. I then enabled VT-d and still it complains.

Sihastru · Dec 9, 2011, 09:16 AM

You keep calling it VT-d, but your CPU desn't actually support it. You should start calling it VT-x to avoid confusion.

Having said that, there is no point to play around with A20M if Intel(R) Virtualisation Tech (VT-x) is set to Disabled. You need to keep VT-x enabled at all times.

Takaharu · Dec 9, 2011, 03:50 PM

VT-d what what I meant; I'm referring to the named setting in the BIOS, not what it is.

These are the settings that I have used:
Virtualisation
VT-d
No-Execute Memory Protection
A20M

I have mixed & matched with each of those, enabling or disabling respectively.

Sihastru · Dec 9, 2011, 11:00 PM

Yeah, the platfrom (X58 chipset) does indeed support VT-d, but I wonder what CPU you need to enable that. Maybe an LGA1366 Xeon.

Sorry for the confusion. Then the "Virtualisation" would be the VT-x, while VT-d is indeed VT-d. The BIOS screens I saw must've been an older version since they only had "Intel(R) Virtualisation Tech" listed, hence the confusion.

Takaharu · Dec 10, 2011, 12:26 AM

I've now established for definite that it's not the BIOS settings at fault. I unplugged my harddrives, stuck in a spare, installed Windows 7 x64, installed VMWare and it worked fine. I then unplugged the spare, plugged my normal harddrives back in, tried out VMWare and, low and behold, 64-bit virtual systems don't work.

Looks like I'll be reformatting soon then X.X

IvanV · Dec 10, 2011, 12:40 AM

Too bad it turned out so much trouble, but at least you have a solution.

Takaharu · Dec 11, 2011, 01:43 PM

I've re-installed Windows now and all seems well. The system seems a lot more responsive too. Might have something to do with the fact that I had cloned my 40GB SSD to the 256GB...

Nov 29, 2011, 10:04 PM	#1
Takaharu I can fart in 7 languages Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: England, UK Posts: 1,850 Rep Power: 113 System Specs	Virtualisation I made a post quite a while back with a similar problem but it seemed to be rectified when I reset the BIOS. This seems to have caught up with me again. When I try to open VMWare for a 64-bit system it tells me that VT is disabled and that I can't use 64-bit support. This is the case with several of the systems that I have. I have checked my settings in the BIOS and Virtualisation and VT-d are both enabled. I've also reset the BIOS back to defaults (where VT-d is disabled by default) but without success. I then went back and enabled VT-d with the same problem; I still can't use 64-bit systems. The same thing happens with Virtual PC - when I try to open a 64-bit system it says that I have an x86 system and can't run the virtual machine. My Windows installation is still 64-bit, as you would gather, but I'm not getting anywhere with the virtual machines. Can anyone suggest anything else to try? I've looked around a lot and this is the only issue I'm coming across - there are no errors, no faulty applications, nothing else that I can find wrong with my PC. __________________ I don't get paid to know the answer, therefore I'm far more likely to give you a straight and honest answer. Mods Rig, Box Mods Rig, Folding details

Nov 29, 2011, 10:32 PM	#2
IvanV HH Assassin Guild Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,914 Rep Power: 333 System Specs	Re: Virtualisation Do you have the option to enable Secure Virtual Machine in your BIOS? This option is necessary if you want to create a 64-bit VM, but it might be AMD specific, so I can't say if it is relevant to you and what would be the Intel equivalent if there is one. __________________ If anyone has Portal 2 and hasn't played the co-op and wants to do me a favour, let me know (PM me or whatever).

Nov 29, 2011, 10:48 PM	Thread Starter #3
Takaharu I can fart in 7 languages Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: England, UK Posts: 1,850 Rep Power: 113 System Specs	Re: Virtualisation VMWare mentions something about Trusted Execution but I can't find anything of the sort in the BIOS. __________________ I don't get paid to know the answer, therefore I'm far more likely to give you a straight and honest answer. Mods Rig, Box Mods Rig, Folding details

Nov 29, 2011, 11:44 PM	#4
IvanV HH Assassin Guild Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,914 Rep Power: 333 System Specs	Re: Virtualisation From what I was able to find (this), make sure that the following things are enabled: Intel Virtualization Technology No-Excute Memory Protection VT-d As for TXT (Trusted Execution Technology), apparently, it's a chipset feature and I'm not sure if P67 has it or whether it's necessary. Also, the article I linked to contains a link to a tool that checks if the system is ready to host 64-bit VMs. __________________ If anyone has Portal 2 and hasn't played the co-op and wants to do me a favour, let me know (PM me or whatever).

Nov 30, 2011, 07:58 AM	Thread Starter #5
Takaharu I can fart in 7 languages Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: England, UK Posts: 1,850 Rep Power: 113 System Specs	Re: Virtualisation Well the virtualisation is enabled and VT-d is enabled but I don't see any settings referring to memory protection. As for the tool, it says that my system does not have hardware-assisted virtualisation. For the record, my chipset is X58, not P67. __________________ I don't get paid to know the answer, therefore I'm far more likely to give you a straight and honest answer. Mods Rig, Box Mods Rig, Folding details

Nov 30, 2011, 11:01 AM	#6
IvanV HH Assassin Guild Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,914 Rep Power: 333 System Specs	Re: Virtualisation My bad, I should have known by the CPU designation, I wanted to look at the board manual and the first result by both Bing and Google is the link to P67 Extreme6 for some reason. Hopefully I got it right this time and this is the manual for your motherboard. On page 62, it shows the Advanced section of the BIOS and the second item below Intel (R) Virtualization Tech is the No-Excute Memory Protection option. It does say that the No-Excute Memory Protection option will be hidden if the CPU does not support it, but that should not be the case. __________________ If anyone has Portal 2 and hasn't played the co-op and wants to do me a favour, let me know (PM me or whatever).

Nov 30, 2011, 12:25 PM	Thread Starter #7
Takaharu I can fart in 7 languages Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: England, UK Posts: 1,850 Rep Power: 113 System Specs	Re: Virtualisation Yeah, I actually found it not long after making that post; I must've ignored it whilst looking for the phrase "trusted" with "memory". That setting is enabled by default. I disabled it just for a test and, believe it or not, it still doesn't work. I've e-mailed ASRock support as well for sanity's sake. Being a large company, I'd expect that it may take a few days for them to respond. I may try a bit of trial and error this evening to mix & match settings now that I know about the "no-execute memory protection" setting. __________________ I don't get paid to know the answer, therefore I'm far more likely to give you a straight and honest answer. Mods Rig, Box Mods Rig, Folding details

Nov 30, 2011, 04:30 PM	#8
Sihastru Never been clicked Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 433 Rep Power: 45 System Specs	Re: Virtualisation Give this thing a try: Processor Check for 64-Bit Compatibility __________________ There are more things in heaven and earth then are dreamt of in your philosophy. Intel Core i7 3820 \| Corsair H80 \| Asus P9X79 \| Kingston HyperX T1 Black 32GB DDR3 \| Gigabyte 8800 GTS 512 \| 2xIntel X25-M 160GB RAID0 + 2xWD 1TB Green RAID1 \| Asus Xonar DX \| Asus ES2-750 \| Sony OptiArc DVD+/-RW \| Corsair AX850 Gold \| Fractal Design Define R3 Titanium \| Dell 3007WFP-HC2 30" 2560x1600 \| Corsair SP2500 \| Logitech UltraX Premium \| CM Storm Advance \| Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64bit

Dec 7, 2011, 02:47 PM	#10
IvanV HH Assassin Guild Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,914 Rep Power: 333 System Specs	Re: Virtualisation You could try this utility. It's a bit more hassle as it requires you to burn it to a CD and boot from it, but it's sometimes capable of giving useful info on why you don't have 64-bit guest support at the moment. Also, would you consider migrating to VMLite? I'm running a Windows 7 x64 guest on it even though that utility Sihastru posted says that I wouldn't be able to do that on VMWare (although that might be due to the obsoleteness of that particular utility). __________________ If anyone has Portal 2 and hasn't played the co-op and wants to do me a favour, let me know (PM me or whatever).

Dec 7, 2011, 03:04 PM	#11
blibbax What does this do? Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 4,231 Rep Power: 254 System Specs	Re: Virtualisation You might never get a response from Asrock, incidentally. __________________ Donate the spare computing power of your PC to help to cure Alzheimer's, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease and cancer: Fold for HH!

Dec 7, 2011, 04:28 PM	#12
Sihastru Never been clicked Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 433 Rep Power: 45 System Specs	Re: Virtualisation Ok, post #5 was indeed informative to my query. (I R facepalm) I do have an idea. VT-d is required for I/O MMU hardware level virtualisation (direct access of a virtual machine to some hardware components), and isn't really what you need to enable. VT-d is supported only by a few of the VMWare packages (VMWare calls it VMDirectPath and I think it's only available in ESXi/ESX). It does not give you 64bit guest support on 32/64bit host. What you need is called VT-x. VT-x is what you need to enable support for 64bit guests. ASROCK sometimes call this "Vanderpool" or simply "Virtualisation Tech". I hope this is enough to wash away some of my shame from #8. __________________ There are more things in heaven and earth then are dreamt of in your philosophy. Intel Core i7 3820 \| Corsair H80 \| Asus P9X79 \| Kingston HyperX T1 Black 32GB DDR3 \| Gigabyte 8800 GTS 512 \| 2xIntel X25-M 160GB RAID0 + 2xWD 1TB Green RAID1 \| Asus Xonar DX \| Asus ES2-750 \| Sony OptiArc DVD+/-RW \| Corsair AX850 Gold \| Fractal Design Define R3 Titanium \| Dell 3007WFP-HC2 30" 2560x1600 \| Corsair SP2500 \| Logitech UltraX Premium \| CM Storm Advance \| Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64bit

Dec 8, 2011, 07:51 AM	Thread Starter #13
Takaharu I can fart in 7 languages Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: England, UK Posts: 1,850 Rep Power: 113 System Specs	Re: Virtualisation I tried looking for any term matching "Vanderpool" in the BIOS with no success. However, when I tried out the bootable CD that IvanV suggested it showed that I passed almost every test. The ones that stuck out the most were at the bottom, showing that I could indeed run VMWare 64-bit. In light of this, is it possible that something isn't registering in Windows, despite having the necessary options enabled in the BIOS? I really don't fancy reformatting but for lack of a better option... __________________ I don't get paid to know the answer, therefore I'm far more likely to give you a straight and honest answer. Mods Rig, Box Mods Rig, Folding details

Dec 8, 2011, 08:15 AM	#14
Sihastru Never been clicked Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 433 Rep Power: 45 System Specs	Re: Virtualisation OK, I looked around the interwebs and your motherboard has VT-x simply named as "Intel(R) Virtualisation Tech". In the Advanced tab, the section is "Configure advanced CPU settings". There is another option that you should play with, in the same section, it's called A20M. This setting refers to "Gate A20" and it influences the way memory is managed (it's old as sht, most BIOSes have it hidden and correctly set). It refers to the way the CPU will access the remapped memory space. This is the only setting I can think of that could influence the detection of 64bit compliant hardware properly. I can't tell you exactly what is the correct setting for A20M you're looking for, but I can tell you that you might have problems concerning the detection of the full 24GB of RAM that I see you have installed. ASROCK (and some ASUS motherboards) are using this setting as a workaround exactly for this setup. Don't worry, it's not permanent, if you get in trouble, just switch it back to what it was or some other setting. You'll just have to experiment a little. If this fails, the next one on the list is the "No-Execute Memory Protection" option, or NX-bit how the world knows it, but this really shouldn't influence things, since it's a well known feature. You could give it a shot though. __________________ There are more things in heaven and earth then are dreamt of in your philosophy.* Intel Core i7 3820 \| Corsair H80 \| Asus P9X79 \| Kingston HyperX T1 Black 32GB DDR3 \| Gigabyte 8800 GTS 512 \| 2xIntel X25-M 160GB RAID0 + 2xWD 1TB Green RAID1 \| Asus Xonar DX \| Asus ES2-750 \| Sony OptiArc DVD+/-RW \| Corsair AX850 Gold \| Fractal Design Define R3 Titanium \| Dell 3007WFP-HC2 30" 2560x1600 \| Corsair SP2500 \| Logitech UltraX Premium \| CM Storm Advance \| Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64bit Last edited by Sihastru; Dec 8, 2011 at 08:18 AM. Reason: NX-bit

Dec 8, 2011, 10:29 AM	Thread Starter #15
Takaharu I can fart in 7 languages Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: England, UK Posts: 1,850 Rep Power: 113 System Specs	Re: Virtualisation Thanks, Sihastru, I'll give it a go. As I mentioned above, I've played around a bit with the Virtualisation setting, the VT-d setting and the "No-Execute Memory Protection" option to no avail but I'll add Gate A20 to the mix and see what comes out. Still strange how it used to work but now doesn't. C'est la vie. __________________ I don't get paid to know the answer, therefore I'm far more likely to give you a straight and honest answer. Mods Rig, Box Mods Rig, Folding details

Dec 8, 2011, 10:27 PM	Thread Starter #16
Takaharu I can fart in 7 languages Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: England, UK Posts: 1,850 Rep Power: 113 System Specs	Re: Virtualisation Well I tried out the A20M, went from disabled to enabled (VT-d was disabled at the time) but still no joy. I then enabled VT-d and still it complains. __________________ I don't get paid to know the answer, therefore I'm far more likely to give you a straight and honest answer. Mods Rig, Box Mods Rig, Folding details

Dec 9, 2011, 09:16 AM	#17
Sihastru Never been clicked Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 433 Rep Power: 45 System Specs	Re: Virtualisation You keep calling it VT-d, but your CPU desn't actually support it. You should start calling it VT-x to avoid confusion. Having said that, there is no point to play around with A20M if Intel(R) Virtualisation Tech (VT-x) is set to Disabled. You need to keep VT-x enabled at all times. __________________ There are more things in heaven and earth then are dreamt of in your philosophy. Intel Core i7 3820 \| Corsair H80 \| Asus P9X79 \| Kingston HyperX T1 Black 32GB DDR3 \| Gigabyte 8800 GTS 512 \| 2xIntel X25-M 160GB RAID0 + 2xWD 1TB Green RAID1 \| Asus Xonar DX \| Asus ES2-750 \| Sony OptiArc DVD+/-RW \| Corsair AX850 Gold \| Fractal Design Define R3 Titanium \| Dell 3007WFP-HC2 30" 2560x1600 \| Corsair SP2500 \| Logitech UltraX Premium \| CM Storm Advance \| Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64bit

Dec 9, 2011, 03:50 PM	Thread Starter #18
Takaharu I can fart in 7 languages Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: England, UK Posts: 1,850 Rep Power: 113 System Specs	Re: Virtualisation VT-d what what I meant; I'm referring to the named setting in the BIOS, not what it is. These are the settings that I have used: Virtualisation VT-d No-Execute Memory Protection A20M I have mixed & matched with each of those, enabling or disabling respectively. __________________ I don't get paid to know the answer, therefore I'm far more likely to give you a straight and honest answer. Mods Rig, Box Mods Rig, Folding details

Dec 9, 2011, 11:00 PM	#19
Sihastru Never been clicked Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 433 Rep Power: 45 System Specs	Re: Virtualisation Yeah, the platfrom (X58 chipset) does indeed support VT-d, but I wonder what CPU you need to enable that. Maybe an LGA1366 Xeon. Sorry for the confusion. Then the "Virtualisation" would be the VT-x, while VT-d is indeed VT-d. The BIOS screens I saw must've been an older version since they only had "Intel(R) Virtualisation Tech" listed, hence the confusion. __________________ There are more things in heaven and earth then are dreamt of in your philosophy. Intel Core i7 3820 \| Corsair H80 \| Asus P9X79 \| Kingston HyperX T1 Black 32GB DDR3 \| Gigabyte 8800 GTS 512 \| 2xIntel X25-M 160GB RAID0 + 2xWD 1TB Green RAID1 \| Asus Xonar DX \| Asus ES2-750 \| Sony OptiArc DVD+/-RW \| Corsair AX850 Gold \| Fractal Design Define R3 Titanium \| Dell 3007WFP-HC2 30" 2560x1600 \| Corsair SP2500 \| Logitech UltraX Premium \| CM Storm Advance \| Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64bit

Dec 10, 2011, 12:26 AM	Thread Starter #20
Takaharu I can fart in 7 languages Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: England, UK Posts: 1,850 Rep Power: 113 System Specs	Re: Virtualisation I've now established for definite that it's not the BIOS settings at fault. I unplugged my harddrives, stuck in a spare, installed Windows 7 x64, installed VMWare and it worked fine. I then unplugged the spare, plugged my normal harddrives back in, tried out VMWare and, low and behold, 64-bit virtual systems don't work. Looks like I'll be reformatting soon then X.X __________________ I don't get paid to know the answer, therefore I'm far more likely to give you a straight and honest answer. Mods Rig, Box Mods Rig, Folding details

Dec 10, 2011, 12:40 AM	#21
IvanV HH Assassin Guild Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,914 Rep Power: 333 System Specs	Re: Virtualisation Too bad it turned out so much trouble, but at least you have a solution. __________________ If anyone has Portal 2 and hasn't played the co-op and wants to do me a favour, let me know (PM me or whatever).

Dec 11, 2011, 01:43 PM	Thread Starter #22
Takaharu I can fart in 7 languages Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: England, UK Posts: 1,850 Rep Power: 113 System Specs	Re: Virtualisation I've re-installed Windows now and all seems well. The system seems a lot more responsive too. Might have something to do with the fact that I had cloned my 40GB SSD to the 256GB... __________________ I don't get paid to know the answer, therefore I'm far more likely to give you a straight and honest answer. Mods Rig, Box Mods Rig, Folding details