Rdram

~~Luck~~ · Jul 27, 2003, 02:30 AM

I currently have 512 RDRAM..two chips of 256..I'm going to upgrade to 1GB..should this help out my games a lot? And or my Frame Rate? Remember, it's TOP of the line Ram..RDRAM PEOPLE! Heh, well..that's how the guy at Circut City said it to me..anyways...help?

Vampyromaniac · Jul 27, 2003, 03:02 AM

Hmmm, let me say: don't expect too much

~~Luck~~ · Jul 27, 2003, 03:03 AM

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Originally posted by Vampyromaniac
Hmmm, let me say: don't expect too much

Well, in this case, I need to know which RDRAM I need..I'm running on a Dell Demension 8250..

But the FPS SHOULD increase, right?

~~craig588~~ · Jul 27, 2003, 03:03 AM

RDram is the 2nd slowest of the current styles of ram. DDR is the fastest, and regular SD is the slowest. RD costs a fortune too because of how difficult it is to make. You can get 512M of very high quality DDR ram for like 125$ while for RD ram it would be like 250$. It wouldn't provied that much of a performance increase compared to hom much it costs. You money would be better spent else where.

~~Luck~~ · Jul 27, 2003, 03:20 AM

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Originally posted by craig588
RDram is the 2nd slowest of the current styles of ram. DDR is the fastest, and regular SD is the slowest. RD costs a fortune too because of how difficult it is to make. You can get 512M of very high quality DDR ram for like 125$ while for RD ram it would be like 250$. It wouldn't provied that much of a performance increase compared to hom much it costs. You money would be better spent else where.

No, no..RDRAM is more powerful..Here But anyways, what should it go towards if I want more FPS?

Vampyromaniac · Jul 27, 2003, 03:26 AM

My own comment wasn't based on the fact that it's RDRAM, but the fact that more memory probably wouldn't help your system performance too much overall . . . .
If you want your games to play faster, the 1st thing to consider is a faster video card, then a faster CPU.
Increasing 512MB to 1024MB will have minimal effect.

~~Luck~~ · Jul 27, 2003, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vampyromaniac
My own comment wasn't based on the fact that it's RDRAM, but the fact that more memory probably wouldn't help your system performance too much overall . . . .
If you want your games to play faster, the 1st thing to consider is a faster video card, then a faster CPU.
Increasing 512MB to 1024MB will have minimal effect.

HEh, I have a Radeon 9700 Pro..

Is there any way I can add onto my CPU? I hear I can upgrade it..meh..I'm sorry that I'm not too fluent with this stuff, I'm new..BUT I'M A QUICK LEARNER! Just two days ago I heard of this thing called "overclocking" now since yesterday, I know what to do, what to install, how to do it..ect..so just tell me if I can upgrade it. I'm on an Intel Pentium Processor 4..2.40 Ghz..I'm so into Raven Shield, that I'm willing to upgrade my pc so it will run better on it (Raven Shield has some bug with the FPS, I can only get 70-80 FPS then it drops in certain areas.)

C0NAN · Jul 27, 2003, 03:31 AM

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Originally posted by Luck
No, no..RDRAM is more powerful..Here But anyways, what should it go towards if I want more FPS?

If you are already using RDRAM, I'd say go ahead and increase it. It may not increase your FPS but it would make your system load programs faster. As for RDRAM being the best it no longer is. Dual channel DDR400 motherboards have at least twice the performance of RDRAM.

~~craig588~~ · Jul 27, 2003, 03:32 AM

RDram only works at 16bit. All other ram works at 64bit. (1066*16/8)=2132MBs=the fastest DDR. (433*64/8)=3464=average high speed DDR ram, many types can get much faster.

~~Luck~~ · Jul 27, 2003, 03:52 AM

What about my CPU? Can't I upgrade it? I mean like..add stuff on? Add onto the P4?

digerati · Jul 27, 2003, 04:06 AM

If you have a motherboard that will support a faster pentium 4 then you can replace it with a faster chip.

~~Luck~~ · Jul 27, 2003, 04:07 AM

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Originally posted by ^_^
If you have a motherboard that will support a faster pentium 4 then you can replace it with a faster chip.

How do I find out if it supports a faster one?

mike2h · Jul 28, 2003, 08:18 AM

until the advent of the the 865 & 875 the over 2yrs old 850 rdram chipset has been the fastest setup out there. rdram is technologically superior to ddr, faster in the 'real world', & has absolutley no compatibility/stability problems. that said i am upgrading to 865 & the nightmare that is ddr. as far as upgrading to 1gig, spend your money elswhere. the best way to improve fps is 1st - video card 2nd cpu. i would look into a 9800 pro before spending a couple of hundred bucks + on a new cpu. i can not say this as a fact, but i really doubt a 2.4northwood is your limiting factor. you could look to your drivers vers and settings. there are plenty of ati experts on this board.

~~Luck~~ · Jul 28, 2003, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mike2h
until the advent of the the 865 & 875 the over 2yrs old 850 rdram chipset has been the fastest setup out there. rdram is technologically superior to ddr, faster in the 'real world', & has absolutley no compatibility/stability problems. that said i am upgrading to 865 & the nightmare that is ddr. as far as upgrading to 1gig, spend your money elswhere. the best way to improve fps is 1st - video card 2nd cpu. i would look into a 9800 pro before spending a couple of hundred bucks + on a new cpu. i can not say this as a fact, but i really doubt a 2.4northwood is your limiting factor. you could look to your drivers vers and settings. there are plenty of ati experts on this board.

It's the game that's giving me low fps, it's a beta engine and has bugs..(Raven Shield) but all in all, I wanted to get smooth FPS throught everything. I have a Radeon 9700 Pro anyways.

Kgentatszu] · Jul 28, 2003, 09:12 AM

first of all, 1 gig of RAM doesnt relly make any difference in GAMES, i've tried that, and got the same fps in games, the same quality, the same speed, not in current games anyway, and 512 is already more than enough for today's games...........so, basicly its a waste of money........by the way, what craig said 'bout RD and DDR rams are very true.........~LOL

mike2h · Jul 28, 2003, 10:17 PM

what he said is true only as far as it goes. rdram is much more effecient & faster clock to clock. if intel used the same tech from the 865/875 chipsets on rambus platform the rambus platform would be faster. even though they are technically both supplying the same amount of banwidth. it toof intel almost 3 yrs to come up with a ddr platform that could outperform their old 850.

Jul 27, 2003, 02:30 AM	#1
~~Luck~~ I like to whinge Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 820 Rep Power: 0	Rdram I currently have 512 RDRAM..two chips of 256..I'm going to upgrade to 1GB..should this help out my games a lot? And or my Frame Rate? Remember, it's TOP of the line Ram..RDRAM PEOPLE! Heh, well..that's how the guy at Circut City said it to me..anyways...help?

Jul 27, 2003, 03:02 AM	#2
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Jul 27, 2003, 03:26 AM	#6
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	My own comment wasn't based on the fact that it's RDRAM, but the fact that more memory probably wouldn't help your system performance too much overall . . . . If you want your games to play faster, the 1st thing to consider is a faster video card, then a faster CPU. Increasing 512MB to 1024MB will have minimal effect. __________________ *Digitalis 3.3* Athlon 64 3000 // ASUS K8V SE Deluxe // 1024MB PC3200 (2-2-2-10 1T) ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro // 20" Dell 2005FPW (DVI) M-Audio Revo 7.1 + Philips Acoustic Edge // Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 320/16 Western Digital WD3200KS + 120/8 Seagate 7200.7 NEC ND-3550A 16x DVD±RW + Lite-On 52x24x CD-RW Antec Sonata case // 480W Antec TruePower personal bests \|\| Aq'3: 46796 \| 3D'01: 20461 \| 3D'03: 6336 \| 3D'05: 2677 \| PC'04: 4605 \| PC'02: 7691,9092,1250

Jul 28, 2003, 08:18 AM	#13
mike2h DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: norcal Posts: 6,483 Rep Power: 91 System Specs	until the advent of the the 865 & 875 the over 2yrs old 850 rdram chipset has been the fastest setup out there. rdram is technologically superior to ddr, faster in the 'real world', & has absolutley no compatibility/stability problems. that said i am upgrading to 865 & the nightmare that is ddr. as far as upgrading to 1gig, spend your money elswhere. the best way to improve fps is 1st - video card 2nd cpu. i would look into a 9800 pro before spending a couple of hundred bucks + on a new cpu. i can not say this as a fact, but i really doubt a 2.4northwood is your limiting factor. you could look to your drivers vers and settings. there are plenty of ati experts on this board. __________________

Jul 28, 2003, 10:17 PM	#16
mike2h DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: norcal Posts: 6,483 Rep Power: 91 System Specs	Maxxypoos what he said is true only as far as it goes. rdram is much more effecient & faster clock to clock. if intel used the same tech from the 865/875 chipsets on rambus platform the rambus platform would be faster. even though they are technically both supplying the same amount of banwidth. it toof intel almost 3 yrs to come up with a ddr platform that could outperform their old 850. __________________

Jul 27, 2003, 03:03 AM	#4
~~craig588~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In clothing Posts: 3,510 Rep Power: 0	RDram is the 2nd slowest of the current styles of ram. DDR is the fastest, and regular SD is the slowest. RD costs a fortune too because of how difficult it is to make. You can get 512M of very high quality DDR ram for like 125$ while for RD ram it would be like 250$. It wouldn't provied that much of a performance increase compared to hom much it costs. You money would be better spent else where.

Jul 27, 2003, 03:32 AM	#9
~~craig588~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In clothing Posts: 3,510 Rep Power: 0	RDram only works at 16bit. All other ram works at 64bit. (106616/8)=2132MBs=the fastest DDR. (43364/8)=3464=average high speed DDR ram, many types can get much faster.

Jul 27, 2003, 03:52 AM	Thread Starter #10
~~Luck~~ I like to whinge Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 820 Rep Power: 0	What about my CPU? Can't I upgrade it? I mean like..add stuff on? Add onto the P4?

Jul 27, 2003, 04:06 AM	#11
digerati Everyones life has worth Join Date: May 2003 Location: My Yellow Bug Posts: 3,779 Rep Power: 0	If you have a motherboard that will support a faster pentium 4 then you can replace it with a faster chip.

Jul 28, 2003, 09:12 AM	#15
Kgentatszu] DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,802 Rep Power: 0	first of all, 1 gig of RAM doesnt relly make any difference in GAMES, i've tried that, and got the same fps in games, the same quality, the same speed, not in current games anyway, and 512 is already more than enough for today's games...........so, basicly its a waste of money........by the way, what craig said 'bout RD and DDR rams are very true.........~LOL