New HD. Have a concern.

Dimension_IV · Aug 17, 2003, 04:17 PM

Well, after having to RMA one 60GXP I'm anything but confident in it. Last night I went out and bought a WD 80GB 8mb cache drive to replace it as my primary. However, look at my benchmarks:

WD800JB - Sisoft: 25125
IBM 60GXP - Sisoft: 29131

WD800JB - HDTach: 13.1ms
IBM 60GXP - HDTach: 12.1ms

According to sisoft, I should be getting around 31000 in the file system benchmark. My 60GXP is kicking the WD800JB all over the place. What's going on?

System Specs:

MSI K7T266 Pro2-RU
AMD Athlon XP 2100+
Kingston 896mb PC2100
Visiontek GF4 Ti4600
VIA Hyperion 4.48
Microsoft Windows XP SP1

Bane the ECF · Aug 17, 2003, 09:48 PM

Your 60GB hard drive was probably using one 60GB platter. The 80GB WD's use two 40GB platters, making it slower.

Aug 17, 2003, 09:53 PM

the point however is that it said that he should make around 31000 on file system... anyway i dont know what the problem would be...

~~HawK~~ · Aug 17, 2003, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bane the ECF
Your 60GB hard drive was probably using one 60GB platter. The 80GB WD's use two 40GB platters, making it slower.

Nah I have the same WD800JB who does 30500 in Sisoft, could be the acoustic-damping
or "smart" is still on
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Vampyromaniac · Aug 18, 2003, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by HawK
Nah I have the same WD800JB who does 30500 in Sisoft, could be the acoustic-damping
or "smart" is still on
Support WD Site

That might be it, but also remember HDD scores don't only depend on the HDD . . . The motherboard chipset, and the IDE drivers, both affect scores too. He has a KT266, and I bet you have something newer . . . .

~~HawK~~ · Aug 18, 2003, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vampyromaniac
That might be it, but also remember HDD scores don't only depend on the HDD . . . The motherboard chipset, and the IDE drivers, both affect scores too. He has a KT266, and I bet you have something newer . . . .

Sure... I have an KT266a

but you'r right could be many things, indexing service comes to mind, another (older) Hd/CD on the same controller, or the jumper on the HD itself

Vampyromaniac · Aug 18, 2003, 07:40 AM

ah lol

. . . yep, more factors

Dimension_IV · Aug 18, 2003, 08:13 AM

I appreciate the feedback. A few things:

1.) I have been building, troubleshooting, and obsessantly working with and on computers for the past 7 years. I have experience to solve problems.
2.) I've tried various VIA drivers including 4.38. 4.43, and 4.48 all yielding the same results.
3.) I'm running the latest BIOS.
4.) I just formatted again and installed Windows 2000 w/ SP4. No change.
5.) I have benchmarked with my IBM drive hooked up and without it hooked up (WD800JB being primary, 60GXP being secondary). No change.

The conclusions I came to is this:

1.) Either I have acoustic management on (sisoft says it's off but sandra often lies

)
2.) It's my motherboard (chipset. etc.)

I'm going to check to see acoustic management is infact on using the hitachi/ibm utility. I'll let you all know what happens.

~~HawK~~ · Aug 18, 2003, 08:54 AM

Quote:

2.) I've tried various VIA drivers including 4.38. 4.43, and 4.48 all yielding the same results.

Here is were we part, I'm using the driver of MS, not those from the VIA 44x .
What I do use is the PCI Latency patch.

Also Runnin on W2K & SP4 (NTFS)
Services disabled(manual) are(regarding the Hdd): indexing service, Log.diskman.(2x) Task Sch. & Removable StorageSystem.

MoBo = Shuttle AK32a
PSU = Q-tec 550 watt
Via drivers: 449p
mem = 2x 256mb_cl2.5 Hyund. DDR266mhz
Cpu = Amd Athlon 1600xp+
HD = WD- 800JB 80Gb - Seagate Barracuda ATA-IV 80Gb
Vid = Ati9700 driver: 2.4.74a (Omega)
OS = W2000 sp4 DX9b
Sound = Hercules FortissimoIII 7.1

Dimension_IV · Aug 19, 2003, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by HawK
Here is were we part, I'm using the driver of MS, not those from the VIA 44x .
What I do use is the PCI Latency patch.

Also Runnin on W2K & SP4 (NTFS)
Services disabled(manual) are(regarding the Hdd): indexing service, Log.diskman.(2x) Task Sch. & Removable StorageSystem.

MoBo = Shuttle AK32a
PSU = Q-tec 550 watt
Via drivers: 449p
mem = 2x 256mb_cl2.5 Hyund. DDR266mhz
Cpu = Amd Athlon 1600xp+
HD = WD- 800JB 80Gb - Seagate Barracuda ATA-IV 80Gb
Vid = Ati9700 driver: 2.4.74a (Omega)
OS = W2000 sp4 DX9b
Sound = Hercules FortissimoIII 7.1

I have the same settings...no change.

I've given up on the benchmarking part. The drive seems like it's running well, so I'm going to stop worrying about it.

Thanks for the tips.

Aug 17, 2003, 04:17 PM	#1
Dimension_IV DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Tempe, AZ, USA Posts: 36 Rep Power: 0	New HD. Have a concern. Well, after having to RMA one 60GXP I'm anything but confident in it. Last night I went out and bought a WD 80GB 8mb cache drive to replace it as my primary. However, look at my benchmarks: WD800JB - Sisoft: 25125 IBM 60GXP - Sisoft: 29131 WD800JB - HDTach: 13.1ms IBM 60GXP - HDTach: 12.1ms According to sisoft, I should be getting around 31000 in the file system benchmark. My 60GXP is kicking the WD800JB all over the place. What's going on? System Specs: MSI K7T266 Pro2-RU AMD Athlon XP 2100+ Kingston 896mb PC2100 Visiontek GF4 Ti4600 VIA Hyperion 4.48 Microsoft Windows XP SP1

Aug 17, 2003, 09:48 PM	#2
Bane the ECF DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 220 Rep Power: 0	Your 60GB hard drive was probably using one 60GB platter. The 80GB WD's use two 40GB platters, making it slower. __________________ ASUS K8N-E Motherboard Athlon 64 3200+ 10x200MHz Zalman CNPS7000A-Cu Heatsink & Fan 2x512MB Mushkin Black Level 2 PC-3500 ATi Radeon X800 SE 256MB 100GB Western Digital SE 8MB 7200RPM 320GB Seagate 8MB 7200 RPM Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Sony 19" E400 Trinitron Thermaltake Xaser III V2000A All-Aluminum Logitech Z-5300 5.1 Surround Sound

Aug 18, 2003, 07:40 AM	#7
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Aug 18, 2003, 08:13 AM	Thread Starter #8
Dimension_IV DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Tempe, AZ, USA Posts: 36 Rep Power: 0	I appreciate the feedback. A few things: 1.) I have been building, troubleshooting, and obsessantly working with and on computers for the past 7 years. I have experience to solve problems. 2.) I've tried various VIA drivers including 4.38. 4.43, and 4.48 all yielding the same results. 3.) I'm running the latest BIOS. 4.) I just formatted again and installed Windows 2000 w/ SP4. No change. 5.) I have benchmarked with my IBM drive hooked up and without it hooked up (WD800JB being primary, 60GXP being secondary). No change. The conclusions I came to is this: 1.) Either I have acoustic management on (sisoft says it's off but sandra often lies ) 2.) It's my motherboard (chipset. etc.) I'm going to check to see acoustic management is infact on using the hitachi/ibm utility. I'll let you all know what happens. __________________ Antec P160 \| Shuttle AN35N 400 \| AMD Athlon XP 2500+@2.4ghz (Barton) \| Mushkin 1GB PC3200 \| ATI Radeon 9700 Pro (Sapphire) \| Hitachi Deskstar 180GXP 60GB \| Microsoft Windows XP Pro SP1

Aug 17, 2003, 09:53 PM	#3
generalstupid Guest Posts: n/a	the point however is that it said that he should make around 31000 on file system... anyway i dont know what the problem would be...