Check HDD Drive for consistency? (Heeeelp!)

astrolabos · Aug 25, 2003, 03:28 PM

Ok, hear this.
Every time I start the pc I get a message that Drive F (one of the two partions on a WD 80 JB) needs to be checked for consistency. I have run checkdisk several times, finishing it with no errors, but it keep asking me to run checkdisk!!
Plus another issue that came up yestarday, when I removed one WD 40 BB that I had @ my system. The system boots up but after it asks me to run checkdisk, it doesn't proceed to the GUI. The monitor's lamp just goes to standby mode, while the HDD is still working
After I enter safe mode and unistall the grafic card's drivers, everything comes back to normal

I have an Athlon XP 2000+ cpu on a Gigabyte GA 7VA mobo (with VIA KT400)
80 Gb Western digital w/ 8 MB cache
GF4 MX 400 w/ 64 Mb DDR
PSU Deer 400 W

Any suggestions before I throw the pc from the window?

PangingJr · Aug 25, 2003, 04:50 PM

lol dont do that..
answer to my Q and mayb i can help.. how many partition on the 80GB.? drive letter and size on each partition? what kind of datas on drive F and all otheres?

Dyre Straits · Aug 25, 2003, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by panging
lol dont do that..
answer to my Q and mayb i can help.. how many partition on the 80GB.? drive letter and size on each partition? what kind of datas on drive F and all otheres?

How much free space on each partition? What size clusters? NTFS? FAT32?

Zardon · Aug 25, 2003, 05:05 PM

I have no proof to back this up but im hearing from some inside sources that alot of people are experiencing this continual scandisk on every restart, and was in fact caused by one of the MS updates. it doesnt effect every system but I can say ive also seen it myself on my 240 gig RAID, drive F constantly rechecking, its happened twice and ive had to move all files from that partition onto another one and then a reformat via diskmgmt.msc to solve it, then copy the files back.

If I find out anything further ill be sure to post.

PangingJr · Aug 25, 2003, 07:35 PM

Zardon, you may want to try the following if it happen again..

open CMD windows, type " fsutil dirty query F: " (no qoutes, change drive letter to the drive/parttion that you want to check)

it should come back with...
---------------------------------
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\<YOUR NAME>fsutil dirty query F:
Volume - F: is NOT Dirty
-----------------------------------

if it comes back with "Dirty" or even "NOT Dirty" but you're having prob. with "Chkdsk Runs Each Time That You Start Computer"

you can try to use the coomand " chkntfs /D "
it will restore the machine to the default behavior; all drives are checked at boot time and chkdsk is run on those that are dirty.
and chkdsk should stop on next reboot.

edit --add
if you've disabled "Windows File Protection", turn it on before working on above steps.

PangingJr · Aug 25, 2003, 07:40 PM

in MS KB Q316506 ----"the System registry hive or the Software registry hive is damaged" is also cause "Chkdsk Runs Each Time That You Start Computer"
but let try the above 1st. mayb it helps

j0j081 · Aug 25, 2003, 07:55 PM

this happened to me one time right after using partition magic 8. i never bothered to fix it because i was planning on reformatting the next day.

PangingJr · Aug 25, 2003, 08:01 PM

i'd recommend not to use partition magic to prepare for any windows installation, use windows CD and then use partition magic for others, when done with parttioning you should format it again within windows.

astrolabos · Aug 25, 2003, 10:04 PM

First of all I want to thank you for your immediate answer

Second, I run "fsutil dirty query F:" as panging mentioned and I came up with this

Quote:

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\astrolabos> fsutil dirty query F:
Volume - F: is Dirty

So, can anyone tell me who I can repair that?

P.s. how can we know if we have disable windows file protection?

Thanx in advance

astrolabos · Aug 25, 2003, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by panging
lol dont do that..
answer to my Q and mayb i can help.. how many partition on the 80GB.? drive letter and size on each partition? what kind of datas on drive F and all otheres?

a. 2 partitions

b. C: 10 Gb
F: 64 Gb

c. C: Boot partition. I have only the basic stuff to run windows. All my programs and mp3 are in F:
Both drives are NTFS formatted

I can't back up data from F: to C: due to lack of space

PangingJr · Aug 25, 2003, 10:35 PM

windows file protection????
locate following registry key..
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon
"SFCDisable"=dword:00000000... this mean its enable.

next open CMD window, typein " chkntfs /D " (no qoutes) and enter.......close CMD window and reboot. and then reboot again.

if it's not work you'll have to move datas off the F: to CDs or something and then re-fomat the part. with windows tool.

astrolabos · Aug 25, 2003, 10:39 PM

and what about if c: shows that it is dirty too?

Afterwards I've posted I tried to do the same thing with c:. This is what i had:

Quote:

C:\Documents and Settings\astrolabos> fsutil dirty query F:
Volume - F: is Dirty

C:\Documents and Settings\astrolabos> fsutil dirty query C:
Volume - C: is Dirty

Any Ideas??

PangingJr · Aug 25, 2003, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by panging
windows file protection????
locate following registry key..
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon
"SFCDisable"=dword:00000000... this mean its enable.

next open CMD window, typein " chkntfs /D " (no qoutes) and enter.......close CMD window and reboot. and then reboot again.

if it's not work you'll have to move datas off the F: to CDs or something and then re-fomat the part. with windows tool.

one step only for all drive/parts.

ONLY if the registry other than i mentioned DO NOT modify it.. just show me what you got?

astrolabos · Aug 25, 2003, 10:47 PM

ok. the value of SFCDisable is zero. I wrote the "chkntfs /D" and I'm waiting for your green light to go

PangingJr · Aug 25, 2003, 10:52 PM

yes please!

btw do you use PQ Magic? if yes, you may have to do something in the MBR too.

astrolabos · Aug 25, 2003, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by panging
yes please!

btw do you use PQ Magic? if yes, you may have to do something in the MBR too.

ok. I've done it and the situation still remains the same.
I've rebooted, the system checked both C: and F: it rebooted after the checkdisk was over, it checked again disk F: for consistency and after I entered WinXP again, it shows me that only F: is still dirty

Quote:

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\astrolabos> fsutil dirty query F:
Volume - F: is Dirty

C:\Documents and Settings\astrolabos> fsutil dirty query C:
Volume - C: is NOT Dirty

Any ideas panging?

PangingJr · Aug 25, 2003, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by astrolabos
ok. I've done it and the situation still remains the same.
I've rebooted, the system checked both C: and F: it rebooted after the checkdisk was over, it checked again disk F: for consistency and after I entered WinXP again, it shows me that only F: is still dirty
Any ideas panging?

you can try it again other than that..
it'll be alot of works in windows registry and some others, i can only do it if i've that prob on my own but not yours.. on your machine... sorry man i cant do it online,
have to re-format the parttition and then put the data back in.

BTW, do you use Partition Magic to prepare your windows installation?

PangingJr · Aug 25, 2003, 11:15 PM

OK i got your PM. Good Luck! man.

astrolabos · Aug 26, 2003, 12:34 AM

Well, i think i finally cleaned my dirty partition.

I run @ F: chkdsk /F from command prompt and after that the partition seemed to be ok...

We'll see after the reboot. Thnx all, especially panging

blade5545 · Aug 26, 2003, 01:29 AM

I have ran into the same problem as you before its a nightmare from hell, if you run the chkdsk from comand prompt in windows it wont fix the problem,the way to fix it is get you your Windows XP CD and boot to it just like you would when you install windows except this time instead of proccedding to installation you will go into the recovery console it may ask you for your admin password then enter the driver letter of the drive which is causing problems and the then run chkdsk /f and that should fix the problem I know it has for me.

astrolabos · Aug 26, 2003, 01:35 AM

I'll try that and I'll let you know

PangingJr · Aug 26, 2003, 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by blade5545
I have ran into the same problem as you before its a nightmare from hell, if you run the chkdsk from comand prompt in windows it wont fix the problem,the way to fix it is get you your Windows XP CD and boot to it just like you would when you install windows except this time instead of proccedding to installation you will go into the recovery console it may ask you for your admin password then enter the driver letter of the drive which is causing problems and the then run chkdsk /f and that should fix the problem I know it has for me.

that's actually a good advice

i forgot about all that before, i was focusing on something else too much.. if the prob. is the same and wont go.. will see if you can tweak windows abit and trying to fix if.

Aug 25, 2003, 03:28 PM	#1
astrolabos DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kalamata, Greece Posts: 91 Rep Power: 0	Check HDD Drive for consistency? (Heeeelp!) Ok, hear this. Every time I start the pc I get a message that Drive F (one of the two partions on a WD 80 JB) needs to be checked for consistency. I have run checkdisk several times, finishing it with no errors, but it keep asking me to run checkdisk!! Plus another issue that came up yestarday, when I removed one WD 40 BB that I had @ my system. The system boots up but after it asks me to run checkdisk, it doesn't proceed to the GUI. The monitor's lamp just goes to standby mode, while the HDD is still working After I enter safe mode and unistall the grafic card's drivers, everything comes back to normal I have an Athlon XP 2000+ cpu on a Gigabyte GA 7VA mobo (with VIA KT400) 80 Gb Western digital w/ 8 MB cache GF4 MX 400 w/ 64 Mb DDR PSU Deer 400 W Any suggestions before I throw the pc from the window? __________________ I Am The One, Orgasmatron...

Aug 25, 2003, 07:35 PM	#5
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	Zardon, you may want to try the following if it happen again.. open CMD windows, type " fsutil dirty query F: " (no qoutes, change drive letter to the drive/parttion that you want to check) it should come back with... --------------------------------- Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\<YOUR NAME>fsutil dirty query F: Volume - F: is NOT Dirty ----------------------------------- if it comes back with "Dirty" or even "NOT Dirty" but you're having prob. with "Chkdsk Runs Each Time That You Start Computer" you can try to use the coomand " chkntfs /D " it will restore the machine to the default behavior; all drives are checked at boot time and chkdsk is run on those that are dirty. and chkdsk should stop on next reboot. edit --add if you've disabled "Windows File Protection", turn it on before working on above steps. Last edited by Net; Aug 25, 2003 at 07:46 PM.

Aug 25, 2003, 10:47 PM	Thread Starter #14
astrolabos DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kalamata, Greece Posts: 91 Rep Power: 0	ok. the value of SFCDisable is zero. I wrote the "chkntfs /D" and I'm waiting for your green light to go __________________ I Am The One, Orgasmatron...

Aug 26, 2003, 12:34 AM	Thread Starter #19
astrolabos DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kalamata, Greece Posts: 91 Rep Power: 0	Well, i think i finally cleaned my dirty partition. I run @ F: chkdsk /F from command prompt and after that the partition seemed to be ok... We'll see after the reboot. Thnx all, especially panging __________________ I Am The One, Orgasmatron...

Aug 26, 2003, 01:29 AM	#20
blade5545 Shoots first ask's questions later Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Austin,TX Posts: 330 Rep Power: 0	I have ran into the same problem as you before its a nightmare from hell, if you run the chkdsk from comand prompt in windows it wont fix the problem,the way to fix it is get you your Windows XP CD and boot to it just like you would when you install windows except this time instead of proccedding to installation you will go into the recovery console it may ask you for your admin password then enter the driver letter of the drive which is causing problems and the then run chkdsk /f and that should fix the problem I know it has for me. __________________ Dell Inspiron 700m 2 ghz Intel Mobile 2mb L2 cache 12.1 Ultrabrite 1.25 gig ram 80gig hdd 8x DVD-RW 4.5lbs 1.5" thick 5 hours battery DFI NF4 Ultra - D AMD Winchester 64 3200+ @4125+ 2.62ghz sold Swiftech H20-120-BB REV. 3 LIQUID COOLING KIT 2x512 OCZ EL DDR PC-3200 Dual Channel sold Platinum Rev 2 OCZ POWERSTREAM 520W sold ATI X700 PRO SEAGATE 160GIG SATA Windows XP PRO SP2 / PearPC - Apple OS X 10.2 Unknown "The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself."

Aug 25, 2003, 04:50 PM	#2
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	lol dont do that.. answer to my Q and mayb i can help.. how many partition on the 80GB.? drive letter and size on each partition? what kind of datas on drive F and all otheres?

Aug 25, 2003, 05:05 PM	#4
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	I have no proof to back this up but im hearing from some inside sources that alot of people are experiencing this continual scandisk on every restart, and was in fact caused by one of the MS updates. it doesnt effect every system but I can say ive also seen it myself on my 240 gig RAID, drive F constantly rechecking, its happened twice and ive had to move all files from that partition onto another one and then a reformat via diskmgmt.msc to solve it, then copy the files back. If I find out anything further ill be sure to post.

Aug 25, 2003, 07:40 PM	#6
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	in MS KB Q316506 ----"the System registry hive or the Software registry hive is damaged" is also cause "Chkdsk Runs Each Time That You Start Computer" but let try the above 1st. mayb it helps

Aug 25, 2003, 07:55 PM	#7
j0j081 HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 107 Rep Power: 0	this happened to me one time right after using partition magic 8. i never bothered to fix it because i was planning on reformatting the next day.

Aug 25, 2003, 08:01 PM	#8
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	i'd recommend not to use partition magic to prepare for any windows installation, use windows CD and then use partition magic for others, when done with parttioning you should format it again within windows.

Aug 25, 2003, 10:35 PM	#11
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	windows file protection???? locate following registry key.. HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon "SFCDisable"=dword:00000000... this mean its enable. next open CMD window, typein " chkntfs /D " (no qoutes) and enter.......close CMD window and reboot. and then reboot again. if it's not work you'll have to move datas off the F: to CDs or something and then re-fomat the part. with windows tool.

Aug 25, 2003, 10:52 PM	#15
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	yes please! btw do you use PQ Magic? if yes, you may have to do something in the MBR too.

Aug 25, 2003, 11:15 PM	#18
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	OK i got your PM. Good Luck! man.

Aug 26, 2003, 01:35 AM	Thread Starter #21
astrolabos DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kalamata, Greece Posts: 91 Rep Power: 0	I'll try that and I'll let you know __________________ I Am The One, Orgasmatron...