New 74GB Raptor~30% speed boost

dipstick · Sep 20, 2003, 02:51 AM

Well there you have it, the best just got better. A 4.5ms access time is just insane if I must say...WTG WD!!!
Now to just see how much these babies will cost

http://www.wdc.com/en/company/releas...-A3DBED7B48C4}

~~craig588~~ · Sep 20, 2003, 03:00 AM

oooooooooo

That will definatly be my next 4 drive raid array, I just need to save up some money for the 1000$+ it costs.

peroni · Sep 20, 2003, 08:39 AM

Put me down for 2 in RAID0

mike2h · Sep 20, 2003, 09:25 AM

all the improvements, except dual platter will be in the new 36 gig vers too. so they should be almost as fast.

Kgentatszu] · Sep 20, 2003, 04:16 PM

will that increse gaming performance??

No_Style · Sep 20, 2003, 04:22 PM

This will increase gaming load times, I believe. Well, basically anything that has to do with your HDD.

Kgentatszu] · Sep 20, 2003, 04:27 PM

what 'bout fps????

dipstick · Sep 20, 2003, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Maxxypoos
what 'bout fps????

Nope. Those are cpu/gpu dependant

Sharkims · Sep 20, 2003, 11:06 PM

I've had two Raptors in RAID 0, so far I've had three fail. The increase in speed was minimal at the most. WD, has got a lot of explaining to do to get my business again.

I've had 4 WD drives fail in the last month alone.

dipstick · Sep 20, 2003, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sharkims
I've had two Raptors in RAID 0, so far I've had three fail. The increase in speed was minimal at the most. WD, has got a lot of explaining to do to get my business again.

I've had 4 WD drives fail in the last month alone.

Wow, that's insane man. Are you cooling those things at all?

WildChild · Sep 21, 2003, 06:17 AM

I'll stick to the serial ata maxtors very reliable and dont need extra cooling granted they spin @7200 rpm but the transfer rate is still up to 150

Sharkims · Sep 21, 2003, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kakarot
Wow, that's insane man. Are you cooling those things at all?

Yeah, I had two all aluminum Vantec HDD coolers with dual fans on them. They weren't that hot either. I've actualy noticed my 120GB SE WD-IDE runs hotter.

*EDIT* I have also been reading up some and supposedly WD, fixed a lot of the problems with the Raptor drives.
Sinse they were SCSI 10k-rpm drives, with just a redesigned interface, that caused a lot of problems.

~~Crash Override~~ · Sep 22, 2003, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sharkims
Yeah, I had two all aluminum Vantec HDD coolers with dual fans on them. They weren't that hot either. I've actualy noticed my 120GB SE WD-IDE runs hotter.

*EDIT* I have also been reading up some and supposedly WD, fixed a lot of the problems with the Raptor drives.
Sinse they were SCSI 10k-rpm drives, with just a redesigned interface, that caused a lot of problems.

me smells something full of pooey here considering that the Raptors are just revamped IDE-PATA drives with faster spin and lower seek times

FluffyChicken · Sep 22, 2003, 10:49 PM

They are not just revampt PATA drives, they are a smaller diameter platter.
The faster spin generally causes the lower seek time, but the heads need to be redesigned to cope with the faster spin, of course the technology is already there in SCSI drives

So it either a revampt IDE drive or a cut down SCSI drive with a SATA interface slapped on.
Personaly if you need the speed are are willing to pay the prices (even of the Raptors) you should look at getting SCSI drives. They are faster and the makers have been designing them for a long time now.
Yes WD used to make SCSI but they sold that buisiness off (as they couldn't cut the mustard

)

Certainly why bother with them in the RAID0 fashion when you should get he faster SCSI to start with.
After a few generations the 10K IDE drives will be fine.
And yes they have had reported problems (and many people having failed drives)

Looking at Oct/Nov release.
(also not they still use a pata to sata bridge so it's not true sata

)

Me, i'd rather have a reliable drive than a fast one that doesn't last long...

Sep 20, 2003, 02:51 AM	#1
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~~craig588~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In clothing Posts: 3,510 Rep Power: 0	oooooooooo That will definatly be my next 4 drive raid array, I just need to save up some money for the 1000$+ it costs.

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WildChild I'm Still Watching Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey,U.S.A. Posts: 1,068 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I'll stick to the serial ata maxtors very reliable and dont need extra cooling granted they spin @7200 rpm but the transfer rate is still up to 150 __________________ Knowledge is SCARY,Stupidity is REALLY frightening

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FluffyChicken DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: England Posts: 320 Rep Power: 0	They are not just revampt PATA drives, they are a smaller diameter platter. The faster spin generally causes the lower seek time, but the heads need to be redesigned to cope with the faster spin, of course the technology is already there in SCSI drives So it either a revampt IDE drive or a cut down SCSI drive with a SATA interface slapped on. Personaly if you need the speed are are willing to pay the prices (even of the Raptors) you should look at getting SCSI drives. They are faster and the makers have been designing them for a long time now. Yes WD used to make SCSI but they sold that buisiness off (as they couldn't cut the mustard ) Certainly why bother with them in the RAID0 fashion when you should get he faster SCSI to start with. After a few generations the 10K IDE drives will be fine. And yes they have had reported problems (and many people having failed drives) Looking at Oct/Nov release. (also not they still use a pata to sata bridge so it's not true sata ) Me, i'd rather have a reliable drive than a fast one that doesn't last long... __________________ [COLOR=#455b64]Team mauisun.org [/COLOR]