Will you buy an A64?

MSX · Sep 21, 2003, 02:27 AM

Thats the question right there. I'm doing a bit of pre-marketing research here, being the Athlon 64 is almost upon us(hopefully), and finding out generally why you'd be doing it.

The question is not weather it'll be useful, more that if there will be a formidable market for it, because we all know high sales gets support from software companies. That would make this the dawn of 64 Bit on the average computer. I think its most valuable asset at the moment is the Opteron brings powerful 64 bit server tech down to a reasonable price. Though its success at home has yet to be known.

The 64 is fairly powerful in 32 bit, so it won't be a complete loss for AMD in any way. It defiantly makes the transition to 64 bit easier. Some might not even use the feature, as its just icing on the cake.

Personally I'm going to wait to see with the FX can do before I make the plunge.

Share your thoughts if there's an answer better suited for you.

~~craig588~~ · Sep 21, 2003, 02:33 AM

I'll get a A64 (mmm, thats a good nickname) when they fall really cheap, like the price of a barton now.

Driver 7 · Sep 21, 2003, 02:36 AM

Personally after seeing some benches I will be getting one right away. The only thing I will hold off on for a coulpe of weeks is the right motherboard. But I think the ABIT KV8-MAX3 will be the board for me.

Judas · Sep 21, 2003, 03:48 AM

..yes.... abit the way to go....for me as well...

WildChild · Sep 21, 2003, 06:15 AM

Ill be getting one also...thats gonna be my bday present to myself....new chip and mobo

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Sep 21, 2003, 06:20 AM

waiting for PCI xpress, BTX, ddr2

PoopyTheJ · Sep 21, 2003, 06:21 AM

too expenisve when they first come out I'll be waiting probably 6mo to a yr. Looking at a braton and new mobo until then.

Vampyromaniac · Sep 21, 2003, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by craig588
I'll get a A64 (mmm, thats a good nickname) when they fall really cheap, like the price of a barton now.

Ditto. Only because I prob won't be able to afford a chip till then

Dom · Sep 21, 2003, 07:19 AM

I will buy one, without question.

DriveEuro · Sep 21, 2003, 07:40 AM

I'm waiting on the FX just cuz I don't have money.

Kgentatszu] · Sep 21, 2003, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by craig588
I'll get a A64 (mmm, thats a good nickname) when they fall really cheap, like the price of a barton now.

count me in~~~~~~~

Sharkims · Sep 21, 2003, 08:17 AM

I still can't bring myself to get an A64, maybe when the price drops like Craig said.

I have yet to see a real reason to go to 64-bit.

Driver 7 · Sep 21, 2003, 04:01 PM

Check out this score for 3DMark01 on an Athlon64.http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7022251

krazy1 · Sep 21, 2003, 04:31 PM

Ahhh that link is no good... here is what I get...
"The project id is not valid - it is possible that this project has not been published. Please check the URL"

Logla · Sep 21, 2003, 04:33 PM

As soon as I can afford one, I'll be getting one. I'm just too excitable when it comes to new technology and I absolutley must have one in my case.

Driver 7 · Sep 21, 2003, 04:33 PM

Try this link
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...131#post207131

@/2ct!< · Sep 21, 2003, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BiGBrOWnPimpsta
waiting for PCI xpress, BTX, ddr2

Ditto, A64 should have an average quality price by that time, and we can see if the Prescott is that special.

Sharkims · Sep 21, 2003, 11:33 PM

Suppossedly the Prescott will have "64-bit Inside".

The A64 dosen't cut it for me, if I really wanted a higher 3DMark score, I would OC my system, but I don't even do that. I see no advantage to 64-bit with current software, except if it's a server.

Raven15 · Sep 22, 2003, 12:05 AM

When you people say "FX" do you mean the Athlon64 FX-51? And when are the BTX, DDR2, and PCI-X slated for release? And yeah, I'll be getting an Athlon64 FX-51

krazy1 · Sep 22, 2003, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Driver 7
Try this link
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...131#post207131

I get the same thing with this link as the other link.....

and yes I am logged in there too....

MSX · Sep 22, 2003, 01:56 AM

Yes raven. We do.

BTX wont be popular till next decade. A 2007 slated release means about 2 years till ATX is no longer being sold.(if BTX catches on completely) Not worth waiting for it for an enthusiast. Or even an average gamer.

DDR2 hah. Expect DDR 10,000 before DDR2. They could come out with it tomorow... but with DDR selling so well why would they?

As for PCIX... why? most boards are going everything onboard and video cards aren't even close to using up AGP 8x. In fact if anything more and more processing is being done on the chipset...

Meh, don't hold your breath for these features.

Hey Shankims. You calling Intel CEO a liar? LOL. They'll only let you know that theres a 64 bit mode if AMD succeeds... its kinda like what they tried to do with PAT on its third party vendors.

@/2ct!< · Sep 22, 2003, 02:23 AM

I thought DDR2, PCIX and BTX were all coming early 2004, not to mention 64 Windows. Anyway, Im waiting more to see how they do, and then determine from there so I dont buy too early and realize the other is much better, etc. I thought PCIX was supposed to make graphics easier to access than AGP and thus better for combining overall. Only way to wait and see. I decided on this to see how well 64 bit apps are progressing too. Seems to be the date where a new computing generation will commence

The_Neon_Cowboy · Sep 22, 2003, 04:58 AM

Think of it this wayâ€¦

For 1 Intel sucks and will pull forth a 64 bit CPU from there arses just wait and seeâ€¦
Intel does more 180â€™s and 360â€™s then a skateboarderâ€¦. They say what ever it takes to keep their brain washed subordinates happy.

Amd on the other hand is trying new things moving in new directions. Consumer version of windows XP 64 bit, ut2003 64 bit, a lot of games already on board for users systems that support 64 bit. Itâ€™s only a matter of time till Intel wake up and realizes their error. 64 bit is the next best thing and all the vendors will eventually support it.

Anyone with Â½ a brain should wait unless you rolling in cash.

Because of the simple fact the price will go down! And that they will come out with new standards and new motherboards, new chipsets â€¦ not to mention arenâ€™t new slot style video cards are in the works... With all the new stuff hitting I wouldnâ€™t want to be the first to buy. The 30-90 days latter be sorry because these really cool new features just make what I have suck real bad in comparison â€¦.

Iâ€™ll wait a few more months â€¦ let the prices drop! thier overpriced right now. they allways price gouge the first ones to buy.....

Sharkims · Sep 22, 2003, 10:01 AM

I will not deny that the A64-FX's will be very nice chips, but I will be waiting untill the FX's come out, otherwise, I'm not willing to risk it. Unless I see a drastic following and explosion of 64-bit software.

Al_Vampyre · Sep 22, 2003, 10:10 AM

I won't be buying anything for 6months but I'm interested to see what the FX is like and what Intels response will be. I have always used Intel chips and chipsets but if the performance warrants it and the price is right I will change to AMD

Al_Vampyre · Sep 22, 2003, 10:10 AM

I won't be buying anything for 6months but I'm interested to see what the FX is like and what Intels response will be. I have always used Intel chips and chipsets but if the performance warrants it and the price is right I will change to AMD

@/2ct!< · Sep 22, 2003, 10:13 PM

I thought the FX was being launched same day :?

MSX · Sep 23, 2003, 08:57 AM

AMD wishes... prolly wont see fullscale FX's till christmas or after.

DriveEuro · Sep 23, 2003, 03:14 PM

Amazing.... How many thousands of people at this forum yet just 25 votes?

MSX · Sep 23, 2003, 07:06 PM

Hmm, yeah. Perhaps I put down too many options, too many are undecided, or don't frequent this particular section of the forums very often...

Sep 21, 2003, 02:27 AM	#1
MSX Burning the frozen... Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,201 Rep Power: 0	Will you buy an A64? Thats the question right there. I'm doing a bit of pre-marketing research here, being the Athlon 64 is almost upon us(hopefully), and finding out generally why you'd be doing it. The question is not weather it'll be useful, more that if there will be a formidable market for it, because we all know high sales gets support from software companies. That would make this the dawn of 64 Bit on the average computer. I think its most valuable asset at the moment is the Opteron brings powerful 64 bit server tech down to a reasonable price. Though its success at home has yet to be known. The 64 is fairly powerful in 32 bit, so it won't be a complete loss for AMD in any way. It defiantly makes the transition to 64 bit easier. Some might not even use the feature, as its just icing on the cake. Personally I'm going to wait to see with the FX can do before I make the plunge. Share your thoughts if there's an answer better suited for you.

Sep 21, 2003, 02:36 AM	#3
Driver 7 Discombobulated NVidiot Join Date: May 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC - CANADA Posts: 1,015 Rep Power: 0	Personally after seeing some benches I will be getting one right away. The only thing I will hold off on for a coulpe of weeks is the right motherboard. But I think the ABIT KV8-MAX3 will be the board for me. __________________ [COLOR=Black]Asus A8N Deluxe SLI, AMD64 4200 X2 Dual Core, 2x 6800's, Corsair TwinX PC4000 DDR500, Yamaha F1 cdrw, Soundblaster Audigy 2, 2 SATA 120 gig Maxtor HD's, Raid 0 array, Altec Lancing 5.1 Surround Speakers, Thermaltake Xaser III Case, Stealth 470w Power supply, 21.3" Samsung widescreen, MX1000 Lazer mouse.[/COLOR]

Sep 21, 2003, 06:15 AM	#5
WildChild I'm Still Watching Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey,U.S.A. Posts: 1,068 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Ill be getting one also...thats gonna be my bday present to myself....new chip and mobo __________________ Knowledge is SCARY,Stupidity is REALLY frightening

Sep 21, 2003, 06:20 AM	#6
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,717 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	waiting for PCI xpress, BTX, ddr2 __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

Sep 21, 2003, 06:21 AM	#7
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 66	too expenisve when they first come out I'll be waiting probably 6mo to a yr. Looking at a braton and new mobo until then. __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]

Sep 21, 2003, 02:33 AM	#2
~~craig588~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In clothing Posts: 3,510 Rep Power: 0	I'll get a A64 (mmm, thats a good nickname) when they fall really cheap, like the price of a barton now.

Sep 21, 2003, 07:19 AM	#9
Dom DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,940 Rep Power: 0	I will buy one, without question.

Sep 21, 2003, 07:40 AM	#10
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	I'm waiting on the FX just cuz I don't have money. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Sep 21, 2003, 08:17 AM	#12
Sharkims Seen my brain? Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: WA,USA Posts: 760 Rep Power: 0	I still can't bring myself to get an A64, maybe when the price drops like Craig said. I have yet to see a real reason to go to 64-bit. __________________ System-1: MSI K8N Neo Platinum \|\| A64 3200+(200x11) - Zalman 7000A-AlCu \|\| 1x1gb OCZ PC3200@400(3-3-3-7) \|\| 9800XT \|\| WD Raptors 2x36 RAID0 System-2: MSI 875P Neo-FIS2R \|\| P4 2.4c(FSB:200) - Intel Cooler \|\| 2x256 GEIL PC3200@400(2-3-3-6) \|\| AIW9000 \|\| WD SE 120x2 RAID0 System-3: DELL Inspiron 9100 \|\| P4 3.0c(mobile) \|\| 2x256mb PC3200(3-3-3-8) \|\| Mobility Radeon 9700 - 128mb \|\| WSXGA+ 15.4" \|\| 60gb 5400RPM 8mb

Sep 21, 2003, 04:01 PM	#13
Driver 7 Discombobulated NVidiot Join Date: May 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC - CANADA Posts: 1,015 Rep Power: 0	Check out this score for 3DMark01 on an Athlon64.http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7022251 __________________ [COLOR=Black]Asus A8N Deluxe SLI, AMD64 4200 X2 Dual Core, 2x 6800's, Corsair TwinX PC4000 DDR500, Yamaha F1 cdrw, Soundblaster Audigy 2, 2 SATA 120 gig Maxtor HD's, Raid 0 array, Altec Lancing 5.1 Surround Speakers, Thermaltake Xaser III Case, Stealth 470w Power supply, 21.3" Samsung widescreen, MX1000 Lazer mouse.[/COLOR]

Sep 21, 2003, 04:31 PM	#14
krazy1 Live from the Dungeon Join Date: May 2003 Location: Between the SubWoofers Posts: 1,395 Rep Power: 0	Ahhh that link is no good... here is what I get... "The project id is not valid - it is possible that this project has not been published. Please check the URL" __________________

Sep 21, 2003, 04:33 PM	#15
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 0	As soon as I can afford one, I'll be getting one. I'm just too excitable when it comes to new technology and I absolutley must have one in my case.

Sep 21, 2003, 11:33 PM	#18
Sharkims Seen my brain? Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: WA,USA Posts: 760 Rep Power: 0	Suppossedly the Prescott will have "64-bit Inside". The A64 dosen't cut it for me, if I really wanted a higher 3DMark score, I would OC my system, but I don't even do that. I see no advantage to 64-bit with current software, except if it's a server. __________________ System-1: MSI K8N Neo Platinum \|\| A64 3200+(200x11) - Zalman 7000A-AlCu \|\| 1x1gb OCZ PC3200@400(3-3-3-7) \|\| 9800XT \|\| WD Raptors 2x36 RAID0 System-2: MSI 875P Neo-FIS2R \|\| P4 2.4c(FSB:200) - Intel Cooler \|\| 2x256 GEIL PC3200@400(2-3-3-6) \|\| AIW9000 \|\| WD SE 120x2 RAID0 System-3: DELL Inspiron 9100 \|\| P4 3.0c(mobile) \|\| 2x256mb PC3200(3-3-3-8) \|\| Mobility Radeon 9700 - 128mb \|\| WSXGA+ 15.4" \|\| 60gb 5400RPM 8mb

Sep 22, 2003, 12:05 AM	#19
Raven15 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	When you people say "FX" do you mean the Athlon64 FX-51? And when are the BTX, DDR2, and PCI-X slated for release? And yeah, I'll be getting an Athlon64 FX-51

Sep 22, 2003, 01:56 AM	Thread Starter #21
MSX Burning the frozen... Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,201 Rep Power: 0	Yes raven. We do. BTX wont be popular till next decade. A 2007 slated release means about 2 years till ATX is no longer being sold.(if BTX catches on completely) Not worth waiting for it for an enthusiast. Or even an average gamer. DDR2 hah. Expect DDR 10,000 before DDR2. They could come out with it tomorow... but with DDR selling so well why would they? As for PCIX... why? most boards are going everything onboard and video cards aren't even close to using up AGP 8x. In fact if anything more and more processing is being done on the chipset... Meh, don't hold your breath for these features. Hey Shankims. You calling Intel CEO a liar? LOL. They'll only let you know that theres a 64 bit mode if AMD succeeds... its kinda like what they tried to do with PAT on its third party vendors.

Sep 22, 2003, 02:23 AM	#22
@/2ct!< HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Not Vegas, anymore :( Posts: 1,391 Rep Power: 0	I thought DDR2, PCIX and BTX were all coming early 2004, not to mention 64 Windows. Anyway, Im waiting more to see how they do, and then determine from there so I dont buy too early and realize the other is much better, etc. I thought PCIX was supposed to make graphics easier to access than AGP and thus better for combining overall. Only way to wait and see. I decided on this to see how well 64 bit apps are progressing too. Seems to be the date where a new computing generation will commence __________________

Sep 22, 2003, 04:58 AM	#23
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	Think of it this wayâ€¦ For 1 Intel sucks and will pull forth a 64 bit CPU from there arses just wait and seeâ€¦ Intel does more 180â€™s and 360â€™s then a skateboarderâ€¦. They say what ever it takes to keep their brain washed subordinates happy. Amd on the other hand is trying new things moving in new directions. Consumer version of windows XP 64 bit, ut2003 64 bit, a lot of games already on board for users systems that support 64 bit. Itâ€™s only a matter of time till Intel wake up and realizes their error. 64 bit is the next best thing and all the vendors will eventually support it. Anyone with Â½ a brain should wait unless you rolling in cash. Because of the simple fact the price will go down! And that they will come out with new standards and new motherboards, new chipsets â€¦ not to mention arenâ€™t new slot style video cards are in the works... With all the new stuff hitting I wouldnâ€™t want to be the first to buy. The 30-90 days latter be sorry because these really cool new features just make what I have suck real bad in comparison â€¦. Iâ€™ll wait a few more months â€¦ let the prices drop! thier overpriced right now. they allways price gouge the first ones to buy..... __________________

Sep 22, 2003, 10:01 AM	#24
Sharkims Seen my brain? Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: WA,USA Posts: 760 Rep Power: 0	I will not deny that the A64-FX's will be very nice chips, but I will be waiting untill the FX's come out, otherwise, I'm not willing to risk it. Unless I see a drastic following and explosion of 64-bit software. __________________ System-1: MSI K8N Neo Platinum \|\| A64 3200+(200x11) - Zalman 7000A-AlCu \|\| 1x1gb OCZ PC3200@400(3-3-3-7) \|\| 9800XT \|\| WD Raptors 2x36 RAID0 System-2: MSI 875P Neo-FIS2R \|\| P4 2.4c(FSB:200) - Intel Cooler \|\| 2x256 GEIL PC3200@400(2-3-3-6) \|\| AIW9000 \|\| WD SE 120x2 RAID0 System-3: DELL Inspiron 9100 \|\| P4 3.0c(mobile) \|\| 2x256mb PC3200(3-3-3-8) \|\| Mobility Radeon 9700 - 128mb \|\| WSXGA+ 15.4" \|\| 60gb 5400RPM 8mb

Sep 22, 2003, 10:10 AM	#25
Al_Vampyre HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,532 Rep Power: 72 System Specs	I won't be buying anything for 6months but I'm interested to see what the FX is like and what Intels response will be. I have always used Intel chips and chipsets but if the performance warrants it and the price is right I will change to AMD __________________ "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit; wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad" - Brian O'Driscoll - Ireland Rugby Team 2009 Grand Slam winning Captain.

Sep 22, 2003, 10:13 PM	#27
@/2ct!< HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Not Vegas, anymore :( Posts: 1,391 Rep Power: 0	I thought the FX was being launched same day :? __________________

Sep 23, 2003, 08:57 AM	Thread Starter #28
MSX Burning the frozen... Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,201 Rep Power: 0	AMD wishes... prolly wont see fullscale FX's till christmas or after.

Sep 23, 2003, 03:14 PM	#29
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Amazing.... How many thousands of people at this forum yet just 25 votes? __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Sep 23, 2003, 07:06 PM	Thread Starter #30
MSX Burning the frozen... Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,201 Rep Power: 0	Hmm, yeah. Perhaps I put down too many options, too many are undecided, or don't frequent this particular section of the forums very often...