OK you Opera Guru’s - Java vs. Non-Java Opera 7.2?

Redstone · Sep 26, 2003, 04:25 PM

I have never downloaded Opera before. The way I read it, the Orepa web site says if you have not downloaded Opera before use the Java version of Opera 7.2. If I have WinXP service pack 1 as my operating system I would think that there would not be a need to download the big Java version as Java is already on my machine. Is that right?

Rayder · Sep 26, 2003, 06:55 PM

Actually no, Java is not included with XP. 98 had it, but not XP. I'm not familiar with Opera to know anything about that browser though. I just use IE myself, I went to www.java.com and installed the java stuff from there, seems to work fine.

I'm sure someone here will give ya some help soon, be patient.

PoopyTheJ · Sep 26, 2003, 07:17 PM

XP doesn't have Java, didn't come with it then it did then it didn't now it doesn't. If you have a early version of SP1 you may have Java. I don't as I'm using the slipstream XP install. The Java download is worth it and once you've gotten it you can upgrade with the non Java versions. Short answer though is yes you need to get the java version, cause even if you have Microsofts VM it's implementation of Java is J-script and NOT Java. Good luck and enjoy opera, I love it.

Redstone · Sep 26, 2003, 08:24 PM

My OEM copy came with service pack 1 included, so I thought I had the Microsoft Java machine installed. Isn't SP1a the service pack that requires you to download Sun Java machine?

I'll check tonight to see if either is on my computer.
Anyway it looks like I can load Sun Java and switch between the two if I got Microsoft Java isntalled as well.

Sharkims · Sep 26, 2003, 10:27 PM

Try MyIE2, much nicer than Opera in my opinion.

studbagel9 · Sep 27, 2003, 03:58 PM

Sun Microsystems and Microsoft don't exactly have the best working relationship do they? I'm surprised Java even shipped with Windows 98

Sep 26, 2003, 04:25 PM	#1
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Sep 26, 2003, 07:17 PM	#3
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Sep 26, 2003, 08:24 PM	Thread Starter #4
Redstone CEO Vandelay Industries Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Left Coast Posts: 176 Rep Power: 0	My OEM copy came with service pack 1 included, so I thought I had the Microsoft Java machine installed. Isn't SP1a the service pack that requires you to download Sun Java machine? I'll check tonight to see if either is on my computer. Anyway it looks like I can load Sun Java and switch between the two if I got Microsoft Java isntalled as well. __________________ [COLOR=#66ccff]Intel [/COLOR][COLOR=sienna]PIV - 3.0e @ [COLOR=darkorange]3.39[/COLOR] [/COLOR][COLOR=yellowgreen][COLOR=sienna]Cooled by[/COLOR] [/COLOR][COLOR=#66ccff]SWIftech [/COLOR][COLOR=sienna]MCX4000[/COLOR] [COLOR=#66ccff]Asus[/COLOR][COLOR=#ffcc99] [COLOR=sienna]P4P800 SE[/COLOR] [/COLOR][COLOR=sienna]Powered by[/COLOR][COLOR=#66ccff] Antec [/COLOR][COLOR=sienna]TruePower 430[/COLOR] [COLOR=#66ccff]Kingston [/COLOR][COLOR=yellowgreen][COLOR=sienna]Hyperx 4x512MB - PC3200 - 2.5-3-3-8 @ 1:1 timings [/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#66ccff]ATI [/COLOR][COLOR=#ffcc99][COLOR=sienna]Radeon X1950 Pro AGP - Omega Drivers 3.8.421 (Cat 7.10) displayed on a [/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#66ccff]Samsung[/COLOR][COLOR=#ffcc99] [COLOR=sienna]930B LCD[/COLOR] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#66ccff]Creative [/COLOR][COLOR=sienna]Sound Blaster Audigy 4[/COLOR] [COLOR=#66ccff]Win[/COLOR][COLOR=#ffcc99][COLOR=sienna]XP Home stored on a[/COLOR] [/COLOR][COLOR=#66ccff]Western Digital[/COLOR][COLOR=#ffcc99] [COLOR=sienna]1200GB Sata with a[/COLOR] [/COLOR][COLOR=#66ccff]Seagate[/COLOR] [COLOR=sienna]10GB Barracuda IV Slave[/COLOR]

Sep 26, 2003, 10:27 PM	#5
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Sep 27, 2003, 03:58 PM	#6
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Sep 26, 2003, 06:55 PM	#2
Rayder Mostly lurking lately.... Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 2,161 Rep Power: 73	Actually no, Java is not included with XP. 98 had it, but not XP. I'm not familiar with Opera to know anything about that browser though. I just use IE myself, I went to www.java.com and installed the java stuff from there, seems to work fine. I'm sure someone here will give ya some help soon, be patient.