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Ya I am definilely partial to the NForce boards. But I just read thia so I am holding on for the absolute best. The 3 boards for today are all Athlon64 boards tested with AMD’s new Athlon64 3200+. AMD has also announced it will release the Athlon64 in 3400+ speed rating in a few weeks. The upcoming 3400+ runs about the same real speed as the new Athlon64FX51.
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And ya know what.
The 64FX is not a gamer board. [ What is very true is that a server motherboard and a server CPU is a much different thing than a gamer motherboard and gamer CPU, and AMD doesn't want the additional complications and costs of making the two meet. The Opteron-That-Isn't-An-Opteron (aka Athlon FX) is still an Opteron. It's at most a slightly modified server chip, and to meet the demands of the server population, not the gamer population. It is built to meet certain standards which slow it down a bit and increases cost, in return for increased reliability. Standards like 6-layer plus mobos, and registered RAM. It's not built to be a gamer board, and the FX isn't meant to be a gamer chip. You may say, "but the FX does so well at games!" True, but irrelevant. The FX does that despite its server origins (and a lot of the same can be said about Intel's Extreme Edition). Take that Hammer core and build a platform designed for gaming, and it will do even better. It would also do so cheaper. Build a motherboard that isn't quite the brick an Opteron mobo is, one that emphasizes speed over reliability, and you can make one for less money. read more I was a little down at first cuz I wanted the "gamers processor" but I just spent $650 on ram last week to replace the $400 ram I bought 4 months ago and none of it is compatable with the 64FX. I Hyped now.
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Some pics an did an Aquamark Bench Looky looky...hehehe
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You should def. have around like 55,000 in AquaMark3 right now man, unless your doing something completely wrong, like driver errors, or running full AA and AF, as Z said, something is def. up, check on it man.
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It's on the plane and on the way... *starts shaking in anticipation*
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Yes maybe he should do with what he's good at, filling his wal... euh mean, erm..what was he good at again
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Well, when I get my machine up and running. I will post up the sandra and aida32 compare pics, of course along with 3dmark and aquamark.
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if its 64bit or has 64 bit versions like some game like ut2004 All the ATI radeons support 64 bit drivers Quote:
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Not that I know of, my board that I ordered supports DDR400+. EDIT: What problems with chipsets, drivers, or any other error with a computer means to me. Simple, it means progress, it means people are trying new things to improve on what we have. Without risk or mistakes, there really is no advancment. I'm fully ready to upgrade my board if a revised nForce3-150 comes out. It's all part of the computer loving life.
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faster on Ut64 with 64bit chip??
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Yeah.
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the system bus on an Athlon64 is currently 1.6Ghz (yes the bus not the CPU) and the memory bus is 400Mhz at this point. 400MHz = 3.2GB of data per second 1.6GHz = 6.4GB of data per second Since the memory bus and system bus are mostly isolated that equals 9.6GBPS of potential bandwidth when operating in 64bit mode. Trust me on this one some of the things we have now arent tapping into that bandwidth as they arent coded to use it yet. Just wait until some AMD64 optimized apps come out. Intel will be so far in the dust even their new CPU's will look like relics |
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![]() *Goes to work*
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W00T! I think I can fit my SP-94 on this beast!
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Here is a pic of the monstrous heatsink and chip installed.
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A64 > P4
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LOL...nice one m8, lets us know how you get on!!
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Ya Judas I'm in Vancouver. I have stoped looking online to buy a board due to the fact that the 64Bit 3400+ will be comming out in a few weeks and that is the processor I want. There should be plenty of 64bit boards in town by then. (I hope).
I was shopping arround on NCIX's site and then just random pages that I found by linking to.
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You should def. have around like 55,000 in AquaMark3 right now man, unless your doing something completely wrong, like driver errors, or running full AA and AF, as Z said, something is def. up, check on it man.
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I found them through www.pricenetwork.ca The only have one store listed in Sask sadly.
I shop at www.memoryexperss.com here in Calgary. They have rev2 for MSI and Gigabyte. They stopped carrying ABIT sadly, and seem to be moving more toward server boards. Good luck. |
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Ya know what I havent ordered from them online. But When I want to deal with professionals as opposed to the know it all's at my local extreme store I go to NCIX. I can tell you that they are "canada's online store".
I bought a soltek SL-FRN2-RL mobo from NCIX and there was a common NForce 2 problem where if your pc freezed or crashed while saving your bio's settings it would never boot again. Mine died 5 times and each time they exchanged it right there on the spot with no questions asked all 5 times. I would have to give them a thumbs up.
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First Run Second run: Benchmark 2 Dont really know much about the settings for the AA & AF ...plus it was alil limited by my ram which will be fixed tom. afternoon...19472 not to shabby I guess...
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