best heatsink/fan combo for an XP EXPERTS HELP PLEASE!!!!

May 12, 2002, 01:40 PM

im looking some help, I just bought an XP1800 and im not overclocking it, but my stock fan and heatsink I dont think are cooling it right.

my temps on idle are 53c and my case temps are 30... I know my case isnt really that great at cooling as I also have one case fan but if I added a good fan like a delta or something would my temps lower?

isnt it dangerous to have temperatures over 50c... can anyone help?

my radeon card works fine at 275/275 as well but im really worried im going to ruin the processor.. at full load its over 60c.........

EXPERTS PLEASE HELP !!!!!

Mize · May 12, 2002, 01:42 PM

I really like the ThermalRight AX-7 with a quiet 80 mm fan (I'm using and Enermax). For maximum cooling you can couple it with an 80 mm Delta screamer.

Mize

May 12, 2002, 01:45 PM

thanks Mize, you guys are so cool, I love your system btw, WOW.

are you a hardware engineer?

May 12, 2002, 01:46 PM

oh yeah I meant to say, I dont like alot of noise, are those Zalman fans anygood? they look cool id like to have a clear panel on the side of the pc.... with lighting at some stage, that would look neat.

is 60C really high?

Mize · May 12, 2002, 01:51 PM

Thanks Billy.

The Zalman's are great, but not so much for OC'ing. I put on in a rig I built for my Mom and she hangs at 39-42 on a non-overclocked XP 1800. You don't get much visual effect as the (92 mm) fan mounts on a bracket over the Zalman. I think the AX-7 with a 3000-3500 RPM fan is the best compromise between screamers and good cooling. You can probably do the same with an Alpha.

Mize

Necrosis · May 12, 2002, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Billy
im looking some help, I just bought an XP1800 and im not overclocking it, but my stock fan and heatsink I dont think are cooling it right.

my temps on idle are 53c and my case temps are 30... I know my case isnt really that great at cooling as I also have one case fan but if I added a good fan like a delta or something would my temps lower?

isnt it dangerous to have temperatures over 50c... can anyone help?

my radeon card works fine at 275/275 as well but im really worried im going to ruin the processor.. at full load its over 60c.........

EXPERTS PLEASE HELP !!!!!

Alpha PAL8045..one of these best socket A coolers around.

Candyman · May 13, 2002, 06:52 AM

I love my AX-7. I think it is probably the best 80mm cooler out there now. Couple it with a good 40+cfm fan and you are laughing. Right now I have the Sunon 43cfm fan on it and it is nice and quiet while keeping the T-bird cool. Of coarse, for optimal cooling, get a 60+cfm fan but be prepared for noise!

Necrosis · May 13, 2002, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Candyman
I love my AX-7. I think it is probably the best 80mm cooler out there now. Couple it with a good 40+cfm fan and you are laughing. Right now I have the Sunon 43cfm fan on it and it is nice and quiet while keeping the T-bird cool. Of coarse, for optimal cooling, get a 60+cfm fan but be prepared for noise!

Hey Candyman,

So you bascially just screw the fan ontop of it? After reading your post I went looked at this cooler, pretty good price and great performance. Where did get your's from? I'm thinking about getting one to replace my noisy Dynatron.

~~David~~ · May 14, 2002, 04:02 AM

I ll have to say Alpha 8045 aswell really that and mcx462 are the best alpha is alot cheaper
http://www.plycon.com are cheap on them and they are great ordered alot from them

~~Crash Override~~ · May 14, 2002, 08:39 AM

I know it sounds like a stock answer

But Im a fan of Thermaltake

Im planning on the Volcano 7 for my new rig

JavaFox · May 14, 2002, 09:45 AM

Hey, just thought I'd throw my opinion in. I overclock a little (1.4 TBird @ 1.533 -- same clockspeed as your XP), and I've had outstanding luck with ThermalTake's Volcano 7. Their Volcano 7+ (an all-copper model), I understand, works even better.

A CPU temperature of 50C is absolutely nothing to worry about. But if you insist on being paranoid about it, I definitely suggest the TTV7. Mine runs at about 50C, but that's with the fan running at 7V instead of 12V (I hate noise). Not to mention the fact that TBirds run warmer than Palominos. So, yeah, you don't have to worry about 50C, but if you need to upgrade, I do highly reccomend the recent ThermalTake offerings.

Ciao and regards,
JavaFox

Silentst2000 · May 15, 2002, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mize
I really like the ThermalRight AX-7 with a quiet 80 mm fan (I'm using and Enermax). For maximum cooling you can couple it with an 80 mm Delta screamer.

Mize

Well put.

Msm80 · May 15, 2002, 10:11 PM

The Thermalright AX-7 works excellent. It works great even with a low RPM Panaflo for quiet cooling.
Check out this review: http://www.amdmb.com/article-display.php?ArticleID=155

Look at this

XSgore · May 17, 2002, 02:43 PM

I bought a ThermoEngine V60-4120 for my Athlon XP 1800 (overclocked to 1900 (1.64GHz))

And it runs at.... 47'C full load (with 1.84Volts)

It's got a 4500RPM fan on top, but i've just bought an 8000RPM Delta, but it is WAY too loud for my liking,

But seriously, if you don't need to overclock, and they are still available somewhere, i recommend it. Fitting is quite easy, comes with a thermal pad if u dont like using thermal paste.... cost me around £25 last summer.

Cheers
XSG

~~Crash Override~~ · May 18, 2002, 02:47 AM

one thing to remember ppl

its not the RPMS that matter but the CFM's

I have seen high RPM fans that do not cool as well and are loud but dont push enough air to do hardly anything

JavaFox · May 18, 2002, 07:41 AM

As far as this fox is concered, the most important specification of a fan is it's dB rating.

WyreTheWolf · May 18, 2002, 01:44 PM

OK, I know for a fact that a overclocked 2000+ @ 1.78GHz will stay right around 40*C with the new Thermaltake Volcano 7+ It is a solid copper heatsink with a sweet little 70mm fan on it. You have your choice of three settings Low, Med, and High... With the fan set to medium I was getting temps of around 42*C...

Here are some pics:

Overall this is probably one of the best solutions for powerful cooling, and quiet operation.

Good luck!

XSgore · May 18, 2002, 05:23 PM

urm the 8000RPM Delta pushes 51.6CFM i think

that enough?

(also emits around 50dB though)

~~Crash Override~~ · May 18, 2002, 08:50 PM

once again lol thats a high rpm fan

look at it this way.......when an engine in a car is pushing 9000 RPMS you get scared because thats red line on it

you can find fans that are only around 5000RPM or less that will push that much cfm its bigger to get a slightly larger fan with lower RPMs as it will still push the same amount of air as a smaller fan at higher RPMs just with less sound

XSgore · May 19, 2002, 10:44 PM

yeh the 8000RPM is DAMN LOUD !!!

What I need to do is get a fan mate from overclockers to go with it, jeez come to think of it i've got a list of things i want ;-)

with fan mate will probly throttle it down to 5000 or 6000 RPM

and when i leave it on during the daytime whack it up to 8K

GT

May 12, 2002, 01:40 PM	#1
Billy Guest Posts: n/a	best heatsink/fan combo for an XP EXPERTS HELP PLEASE!!!! im looking some help, I just bought an XP1800 and im not overclocking it, but my stock fan and heatsink I dont think are cooling it right. my temps on idle are 53c and my case temps are 30... I know my case isnt really that great at cooling as I also have one case fan but if I added a good fan like a delta or something would my temps lower? isnt it dangerous to have temperatures over 50c... can anyone help? my radeon card works fine at 275/275 as well but im really worried im going to ruin the processor.. at full load its over 60c......... EXPERTS PLEASE HELP !!!!!

May 12, 2002, 01:42 PM	#2
Mize The quiet one Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 150 Rep Power: 0	I really like the ThermalRight AX-7 with a quiet 80 mm fan (I'm using and Enermax). For maximum cooling you can couple it with an 80 mm Delta screamer. Mize __________________ Rage3D > Voodoo 2 / TNT > Voodoo 3 3000 > Voodoo 5 5500 > GeForce 3 Ti200 > Radeon 8500 > Radeon 9700 Pro > Radeon X1800 XT > GeForce 8800 GTS > Radeon HD 5870 > Geforce GTX 580 #1 (died) > Geforce GTX 580 #2 (died) > 2x6970 in CFX > 2xGTX 580 3GB in SLI (fingers crossed)

May 12, 2002, 01:51 PM	#5
Mize The quiet one Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 150 Rep Power: 0	Thanks Billy. The Zalman's are great, but not so much for OC'ing. I put on in a rig I built for my Mom and she hangs at 39-42 on a non-overclocked XP 1800. You don't get much visual effect as the (92 mm) fan mounts on a bracket over the Zalman. I think the AX-7 with a 3000-3500 RPM fan is the best compromise between screamers and good cooling. You can probably do the same with an Alpha. Mize __________________ Rage3D > Voodoo 2 / TNT > Voodoo 3 3000 > Voodoo 5 5500 > GeForce 3 Ti200 > Radeon 8500 > Radeon 9700 Pro > Radeon X1800 XT > GeForce 8800 GTS > Radeon HD 5870 > Geforce GTX 580 #1 (died) > Geforce GTX 580 #2 (died) > 2x6970 in CFX > 2xGTX 580 3GB in SLI (fingers crossed)

May 13, 2002, 06:52 AM	#7
Candyman [DH] Lover! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 284 Rep Power: 0	I love my AX-7. I think it is probably the best 80mm cooler out there now. Couple it with a good 40+cfm fan and you are laughing. Right now I have the Sunon 43cfm fan on it and it is nice and quiet while keeping the T-bird cool. Of coarse, for optimal cooling, get a 60+cfm fan but be prepared for noise! __________________ AMD Athlon XP 1700+ @ 2.53GHz Abit NF7-S v.2 Thermalright SP-97 w/ TT Smart Fan 2 2 x 512MB GeIL PC3500 Platinum DDR 2 x 120GB WD HDD - RAID-0 2 x 80GB Barracuda V HDD - RAID-0 ATI Radeon AIW 9800PRO SB Audigy 2 HP L2335 23" LCD (DVI-D) WinXP Pro SP2

May 17, 2002, 02:43 PM	#14
XSgore DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: UK Posts: 33 Rep Power: 0	My 2 cents... I bought a ThermoEngine V60-4120 for my Athlon XP 1800 (overclocked to 1900 (1.64GHz)) And it runs at.... 47'C full load (with 1.84Volts) It's got a 4500RPM fan on top, but i've just bought an 8000RPM Delta, but it is WAY too loud for my liking, But seriously, if you don't need to overclock, and they are still available somewhere, i recommend it. Fitting is quite easy, comes with a thermal pad if u dont like using thermal paste.... cost me around £25 last summer. Cheers XSG __________________ =========================================== Athlon XP1800+@2000+(1670MHz), Soltek SL75DRV4 512MB PC2100 DDR, Leadtek GeForce 2Ti (266/433) WBB600 60.1Gb Philips CDD4801 & 16X40 DVD Soundblaster Audigy Player, Typhoon 5.1 DTS WinXPPro, soon to be Win2KS P2

May 12, 2002, 01:45 PM	#3
Billy Guest Posts: n/a	thanks Mize, you guys are so cool, I love your system btw, WOW. are you a hardware engineer?

May 12, 2002, 01:46 PM	#4
Billy Guest Posts: n/a	oh yeah I meant to say, I dont like alot of noise, are those Zalman fans anygood? they look cool id like to have a clear panel on the side of the pc.... with lighting at some stage, that would look neat. is 60C really high?

May 14, 2002, 04:02 AM	#9
~~David~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 959 Rep Power: 0	I ll have to say Alpha 8045 aswell really that and mcx462 are the best alpha is alot cheaper http://www.plycon.com are cheap on them and they are great ordered alot from them

May 14, 2002, 08:39 AM	#10
~~Crash Override~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 2,448 Rep Power: 0	I know it sounds like a stock answer But Im a fan of Thermaltake Im planning on the Volcano 7 for my new rig

May 14, 2002, 09:45 AM	#11
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	Hey, just thought I'd throw my opinion in. I overclock a little (1.4 TBird @ 1.533 -- same clockspeed as your XP), and I've had outstanding luck with ThermalTake's Volcano 7. Their Volcano 7+ (an all-copper model), I understand, works even better. A CPU temperature of 50C is absolutely nothing to worry about. But if you insist on being paranoid about it, I definitely suggest the TTV7. Mine runs at about 50C, but that's with the fan running at 7V instead of 12V (I hate noise). Not to mention the fact that TBirds run warmer than Palominos. So, yeah, you don't have to worry about 50C, but if you need to upgrade, I do highly reccomend the recent ThermalTake offerings. Ciao and regards, JavaFox

May 15, 2002, 10:11 PM	#13
Msm80 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 31 Rep Power: 0	The Thermalright AX-7 works excellent. It works great even with a low RPM Panaflo for quiet cooling. Check out this review: http://www.amdmb.com/article-display.php?ArticleID=155 Look at this

May 18, 2002, 02:47 AM	#15
~~Crash Override~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 2,448 Rep Power: 0	one thing to remember ppl its not the RPMS that matter but the CFM's I have seen high RPM fans that do not cool as well and are loud but dont push enough air to do hardly anything

May 18, 2002, 07:41 AM	#16
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	CFM vs. RPM As far as this fox is concered, the most important specification of a fan is it's dB rating.

May 18, 2002, 01:44 PM	#17
WyreTheWolf Wolfish Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cave; Ozark Mountains Posts: 2,111 Rep Power: 0	OK, I know for a fact that a overclocked 2000+ @ 1.78GHz will stay right around 40C with the new Thermaltake Volcano 7+ It is a solid copper heatsink with a sweet little 70mm fan on it. You have your choice of three settings Low, Med, and High... With the fan set to medium I was getting temps of around 42C... Here are some pics: Overall this is probably one of the best solutions for powerful cooling, and quiet operation. Good luck!

May 18, 2002, 05:23 PM	#18
XSgore DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: UK Posts: 33 Rep Power: 0	urm the 8000RPM Delta pushes 51.6CFM i think that enough? (also emits around 50dB though) __________________ =========================================== Athlon XP1800+@2000+(1670MHz), Soltek SL75DRV4 512MB PC2100 DDR, Leadtek GeForce 2Ti (266/433) WBB600 60.1Gb Philips CDD4801 & 16X40 DVD Soundblaster Audigy Player, Typhoon 5.1 DTS WinXPPro, soon to be Win2KS P2

May 18, 2002, 08:50 PM	#19
~~Crash Override~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 2,448 Rep Power: 0	once again lol thats a high rpm fan look at it this way.......when an engine in a car is pushing 9000 RPMS you get scared because thats red line on it you can find fans that are only around 5000RPM or less that will push that much cfm its bigger to get a slightly larger fan with lower RPMs as it will still push the same amount of air as a smaller fan at higher RPMs just with less sound

May 19, 2002, 10:44 PM	#20
XSgore DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: UK Posts: 33 Rep Power: 0	hmmm no shit... it's loud!! yeh the 8000RPM is DAMN LOUD !!! What I need to do is get a fan mate from overclockers to go with it, jeez come to think of it i've got a list of things i want ;-) with fan mate will probly throttle it down to 5000 or 6000 RPM and when i leave it on during the daytime whack it up to 8K GT __________________ =========================================== Athlon XP1800+@2000+(1670MHz), Soltek SL75DRV4 512MB PC2100 DDR, Leadtek GeForce 2Ti (266/433) WBB600 60.1Gb Philips CDD4801 & 16X40 DVD Soundblaster Audigy Player, Typhoon 5.1 DTS WinXPPro, soon to be Win2KS P2