intel motherboard - best?

ins · Dec 16, 2003, 01:14 PM

what you guys think is the best intel p4 motherboard?
and also, is there one without onboard sound? (are there any mobos without onboard sound?)

steve

ta

~~Crash Override~~ · Dec 16, 2003, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ins
what you guys think is the best intel p4 motherboard?
and also, is there one without onboard sound? (are there any mobos without onboard sound?)

steve

ta

even if it comes with it there is always the option of disabling it in the bios

miguelpp · Dec 16, 2003, 05:43 PM

D875PBZKL or D865PERLK
The first one, hasn´t onboard sound, the second one, brings it.
Both very good , stable and reliable mobos.

ins · Dec 17, 2003, 09:48 AM

ta - onboard sound does my head in

~~Crash Override~~ · Dec 17, 2003, 09:51 AM

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Originally posted by ins
ta - onboard sound does my head in

whys that?

ins · Dec 17, 2003, 04:40 PM

my asus motherboard has onboard and even if i disable it when i put in my creative zs it becomes unstable

emailed creative but they gave me the most useless answer i think..could've been me being lazy :o think it said format or summut

*EDIT* i know, they went on summut about ACPI or something, and to stop my OS using virtual IRQs, dunno what it means or anything but was like effort :|

http://www.crs.nildram.co.uk/creative.txt - their reply if your interested. maybe you can decipher :P

ins · Dec 17, 2003, 04:59 PM

another thing, whats difference between springdale and 'canterwood' ?

miguelpp · Dec 17, 2003, 05:09 PM

Basically , two things:
PAT: a very little memory performance increase (5%) with Canterwood.
ECC memory capability with Canterwood.
Sata RAID depends from ICH5, if it has ICH5R, you got it. This is generally implemented in both boards (be sure if you buy Springdale, to have ICH5R).

~~Crash Override~~ · Dec 17, 2003, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ins
my asus motherboard has onboard and even if i disable it when i put in my creative zs it becomes unstable

emailed creative but they gave me the most useless answer i think..could've been me being lazy :o think it said format or summut

*EDIT* i know, they went on summut about ACPI or something, and to stop my OS using virtual IRQs, dunno what it means or anything but was like effort :|

http://www.crs.nildram.co.uk/creative.txt - their reply if your interested. maybe you can decipher :P

sounds like an issue I used to have with my SB Live.

I think its most likely the fact that creative has gone down the crapper for hardware quality.

The sound quality on them is decent but I found that with the Realtek audio codec on my board that at 16bit sound it actually tests out as a cleaner signal than even an audigy2

I was fairly amazed but Ive never had RMAA be wrong about the quality before so Im trusting it on this one

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Dec 17, 2003, 10:35 PM

the best board is the ABIT IC7 Max 3, best for overclocking also. I'm using the MSI 865 Neo-2 and its awesome also, looks great. If you wanna save money get the springdale chipset (865) if u wanna spend a little more get the Canterwood (875). Canterwood you really only benefit if your using good ram with ECC in dual channel because theres no ECC on 865 motherboards. both have PAT, onboard sound can be easily disabled in the BIOS. I say for reliability go for ASUS or Gigabyte, for speed and overclockibility go for ABIT. for features loooks and above avg performance go for MSI, Epox, Chaintech. Intel motherboards (made by intel) just suck! ugly also

DangerMouse18 · Dec 18, 2003, 12:54 AM

Well I've heard good things about the Gigabyte range of P4 mobos. Not sure about model numbers because I'm just about to go to bed, but a friend has one and it's impressive. Never had a problem with it. Only thing I don't like is the chipset fan sounds like my mum's hoover >.<

ins · Dec 18, 2003, 08:24 AM

thanks for responses

miguelpp · Dec 18, 2003, 08:33 AM

Oficially, PAT is not avalaible in 865 chipset. Some manufacturers, enabled it, but INTEL didn´t like the idea, so they had to change this name for another.

ToP3koms · Dec 18, 2003, 10:40 AM

Take a look at the Asus p4p800 or even better the p4c800-e deluxe.They have both gotten good reviews,from what I've read.I've been running the p4c800-e deluxe for a few months now without any problems.GL in your quest

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ins DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Evesham Posts: 207 Rep Power: 0	intel motherboard - best? what you guys think is the best intel p4 motherboard? and also, is there one without onboard sound? (are there any mobos without onboard sound?) steve ta __________________

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Dec 17, 2003, 04:40 PM	Thread Starter #6
ins DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Evesham Posts: 207 Rep Power: 0	my asus motherboard has onboard and even if i disable it when i put in my creative zs it becomes unstable emailed creative but they gave me the most useless answer i think..could've been me being lazy :o think it said format or summut EDIT i know, they went on summut about ACPI or something, and to stop my OS using virtual IRQs, dunno what it means or anything but was like effort :\| http://www.crs.nildram.co.uk/creative.txt - their reply if your interested. maybe you can decipher :P __________________ Last edited by ins; Dec 17, 2003 at 04:53 PM.

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ins DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Evesham Posts: 207 Rep Power: 0	another thing, whats difference between springdale and 'canterwood' ? __________________ Last edited by ins; Dec 17, 2003 at 05:05 PM.

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BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,717 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	the best board is the ABIT IC7 Max 3, best for overclocking also. I'm using the MSI 865 Neo-2 and its awesome also, looks great. If you wanna save money get the springdale chipset (865) if u wanna spend a little more get the Canterwood (875). Canterwood you really only benefit if your using good ram with ECC in dual channel because theres no ECC on 865 motherboards. both have PAT, onboard sound can be easily disabled in the BIOS. I say for reliability go for ASUS or Gigabyte, for speed and overclockibility go for ABIT. for features loooks and above avg performance go for MSI, Epox, Chaintech. Intel motherboards (made by intel) just suck! ugly also __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

Dec 16, 2003, 05:43 PM	#3
miguelpp DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: spain Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	D875PBZKL or D865PERLK The first one, hasn´t onboard sound, the second one, brings it. Both very good , stable and reliable mobos.

Dec 17, 2003, 05:09 PM	#8
miguelpp DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: spain Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	Basically , two things: PAT: a very little memory performance increase (5%) with Canterwood. ECC memory capability with Canterwood. Sata RAID depends from ICH5, if it has ICH5R, you got it. This is generally implemented in both boards (be sure if you buy Springdale, to have ICH5R).

Dec 18, 2003, 12:54 AM	#11
DangerMouse18 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	Gigabyte? Well I've heard good things about the Gigabyte range of P4 mobos. Not sure about model numbers because I'm just about to go to bed, but a friend has one and it's impressive. Never had a problem with it. Only thing I don't like is the chipset fan sounds like my mum's hoover >.<

Dec 18, 2003, 08:24 AM	Thread Starter #12
ins DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Evesham Posts: 207 Rep Power: 0	thanks for responses __________________

Dec 18, 2003, 08:33 AM	#13
miguelpp DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: spain Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	Oficially, PAT is not avalaible in 865 chipset. Some manufacturers, enabled it, but INTEL didn´t like the idea, so they had to change this name for another.

Dec 18, 2003, 10:40 AM	#14
ToP3koms Respect Human Rights Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: MD. US Posts: 149 Rep Power: 0	Take a look at the Asus p4p800 or even better the p4c800-e deluxe.They have both gotten good reviews,from what I've read.I've been running the p4c800-e deluxe for a few months now without any problems.GL in your quest