Network Problem

dorkz · Dec 19, 2003, 11:07 AM

Hay.

We've had this problem now with the network for a few weeks, I've got help from www.protonic.com and been unsucessful. wondered if any of you guys could help me out...

Both PC's are networked using NIC's and crossover, using WinXP. The network wizard has been ran on both PC's. Setting one up as host and one as client. The internet sharing is fine and works great but the file sharing will not work! I got to the stage last week where I could view files on the host from the client but not vice versa. (I've run the network wizard many times). I've configured my norton firewall to the IP of the client PC and XP firewall is disabled.

Whats going wrong?

d4rkz.

PangingJr · Dec 19, 2003, 08:14 PM

1st uninstall the Norton Firewall, and make sure that the XP inbuilt one is turned off, and check the following, after all networks been worked out... then the Norton can be reinstalled

Quote:

Originally posted by panging
check in "Advanced TCP/IP Settings" to see if the NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled or atleast its on the Default option in XP, also set the "TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper Service" to "Automatic" and the last one is to make sure that the File and Printer Sharing for MS Networks is installed on both PCs.

note-- you can also check the steps and see before removing the Norton.

dorkz · Dec 19, 2003, 09:59 PM

oke thanks bud. btw, when the client is set to auto does the ip remain static?

PangingJr · Dec 20, 2003, 12:10 PM

if you have 2 or more computers sharing a single internet connection and/or files and printers, all your computers likely use non-routable IP addresses (or Private IP addresses) - 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 with the Subnet - 255.255.255.0 .. these arrays of IP addrs are used for local networking. so you should use the "Use the following IP address:" options.. Not the Obtain an IP address automically.

i dont think you'll have to use the XP network wizard at all (Set up a home or small office network wizard ) just do the config manully, once you've done that and check all the needed, then the Norton will follow your configs as part of its installation.

dorkz · Dec 20, 2003, 12:25 PM

so...

host = 192.168.0.1
client = 192.168.0.2

Is that right?

d4rkz.

PangingJr · Dec 20, 2003, 12:30 PM

yep that should do... and the Subnet - 255.255.255.0 will be auto gen by windows when you click at the fill in box. Then do a check on the 3 steps as my previous posted, and try testing it by setting up a shere folders/drives and see if you all can see and use it on both PCs.

dorkz · Dec 20, 2003, 12:48 PM

Okie. I set static IP's:

192.168.0.1
192.168.0.2

And subnet masks:

255.255.255.0

And enabled netBIOS. There's now no communication (internet share) at all between both PC's with or without the firewall on.

Do the IP addresses have to be static?

d4rkz.

PangingJr · Dec 20, 2003, 01:28 PM

okay, open the Run.. box (start ->run) and type.. C:\WINDOWS\help\netcfg.chm
and hit enter. the command, will open network connections help file,
locate "Internet Connecttion Sharing", at the topic you'll check in the ICS settings, see if it helps.

dorkz · Dec 20, 2003, 01:42 PM

oke thanks. I scanned that...

originally when I made this post i said that ICS worked. I was set to static (192.168.0.1) and client was set to auto. The firewall was enabled and configured to 192.168.0.2. That now doesnt seem to work which is very strange...!

d4rkz.

dorkz · Dec 20, 2003, 01:49 PM

ahh wait... I got it sorted...! but sharing of files is still not working

mebbe next week when i reinstall windows the problem will be resolved!

d4rkz.

PangingJr · Dec 20, 2003, 01:50 PM

take your time, it'll work, just dont install the Norton firewall at this time, wait untill it all worked.

good infos about.. XP Internet Connection Sharing
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics

XP ICS - client setup..
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../clientwiz.htm

XP Pro file sharing
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...ring/index.htm

and pls keep us updates.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Dec 20, 2003, 01:59 PM

noratn will disable/block file shareing connetions ... you have to set it up in nortan itself right
unless you want to run with no firewall and fileing shareing open (hack bait)

dorkz · Dec 20, 2003, 01:59 PM

thanks m8, thanks for being so helpful

dorkz · Dec 20, 2003, 02:04 PM

yah there is a network wizard inside of norton, I've tried to use it doesnt work :S but manually doing it allows at least ICS which is okay for now.

I'm upgrading next week, so its time for a fresh install of XP. I will install the network b4 I install norton then and see how it goes from there.

thanks for all ure help ppl.

d4rkz.

Dec 19, 2003, 11:07 AM	#1
dorkz Striving to overcome Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 100 Rep Power: 0	Network Problem Hay. We've had this problem now with the network for a few weeks, I've got help from www.protonic.com and been unsucessful. wondered if any of you guys could help me out... Both PC's are networked using NIC's and crossover, using WinXP. The network wizard has been ran on both PC's. Setting one up as host and one as client. The internet sharing is fine and works great but the file sharing will not work! I got to the stage last week where I could view files on the host from the client but not vice versa. (I've run the network wizard many times). I've configured my norton firewall to the IP of the client PC and XP firewall is disabled. Whats going wrong? d4rkz.

Dec 20, 2003, 01:59 PM	#12
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	noratn will disable/block file shareing connetions ... you have to set it up in nortan itself right unless you want to run with no firewall and fileing shareing open (hack bait) __________________

Dec 19, 2003, 09:59 PM	Thread Starter #3
dorkz Striving to overcome Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 100 Rep Power: 0	oke thanks bud. btw, when the client is set to auto does the ip remain static?

Dec 20, 2003, 12:10 PM	#4
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	if you have 2 or more computers sharing a single internet connection and/or files and printers, all your computers likely use non-routable IP addresses (or Private IP addresses) - 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 with the Subnet - 255.255.255.0 .. these arrays of IP addrs are used for local networking. so you should use the "Use the following IP address:" options.. Not the Obtain an IP address automically. i dont think you'll have to use the XP network wizard at all (Set up a home or small office network wizard ) just do the config manully, once you've done that and check all the needed, then the Norton will follow your configs as part of its installation.

Dec 20, 2003, 12:25 PM	Thread Starter #5
dorkz Striving to overcome Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 100 Rep Power: 0	so... host = 192.168.0.1 client = 192.168.0.2 Is that right? d4rkz.

Dec 20, 2003, 12:30 PM	#6
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	yep that should do... and the Subnet - 255.255.255.0 will be auto gen by windows when you click at the fill in box. Then do a check on the 3 steps as my previous posted, and try testing it by setting up a shere folders/drives and see if you all can see and use it on both PCs.

Dec 20, 2003, 12:48 PM	Thread Starter #7
dorkz Striving to overcome Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 100 Rep Power: 0	Okie. I set static IP's: 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.2 And subnet masks: 255.255.255.0 And enabled netBIOS. There's now no communication (internet share) at all between both PC's with or without the firewall on. Do the IP addresses have to be static? d4rkz.

Dec 20, 2003, 01:28 PM	#8
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	okay, open the Run.. box (start ->run) and type.. C:\WINDOWS\help\netcfg.chm and hit enter. the command, will open network connections help file, locate "Internet Connecttion Sharing", at the topic you'll check in the ICS settings, see if it helps.

Dec 20, 2003, 01:42 PM	Thread Starter #9
dorkz Striving to overcome Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 100 Rep Power: 0	oke thanks. I scanned that... originally when I made this post i said that ICS worked. I was set to static (192.168.0.1) and client was set to auto. The firewall was enabled and configured to 192.168.0.2. That now doesnt seem to work which is very strange...! d4rkz.

Dec 20, 2003, 01:49 PM	Thread Starter #10
dorkz Striving to overcome Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 100 Rep Power: 0	ahh wait... I got it sorted...! but sharing of files is still not working mebbe next week when i reinstall windows the problem will be resolved! d4rkz.

Dec 20, 2003, 01:50 PM	#11
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	take your time, it'll work, just dont install the Norton firewall at this time, wait untill it all worked. good infos about.. XP Internet Connection Sharing http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics XP ICS - client setup.. http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../clientwiz.htm XP Pro file sharing http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...ring/index.htm and pls keep us updates.

Dec 20, 2003, 01:59 PM	Thread Starter #13
dorkz Striving to overcome Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 100 Rep Power: 0	thanks m8, thanks for being so helpful

Dec 20, 2003, 02:04 PM	Thread Starter #14
dorkz Striving to overcome Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 100 Rep Power: 0	yah there is a network wizard inside of norton, I've tried to use it doesnt work :S but manually doing it allows at least ICS which is okay for now. I'm upgrading next week, so its time for a fresh install of XP. I will install the network b4 I install norton then and see how it goes from there. thanks for all ure help ppl. d4rkz.