p4 pin broken

**MIG-31** · May 27, 2004, 04:14 PM

This post is on behalf of a friend with no net access.

1st) i posted this image of my p4.

the problem is were i have circled in red the exact pin that has snapped of from his p4 3.2ghz 800fsb ht cpu.which he has had only for a very short while.

this is the confusing part the cpu is still working at the speed it is both by windows hardware monitor and in the bios of the mobo.

just a little curious to being able to somehow bridge the gap left by the missing pin by a small piece of copper.

is that a dangerous thing to do or worth while trying,as he is probably not going to be able to have it replaced as it is used and is not a natural fault.

if you need more info please ask.will appreciate the advice.

The_Neon_Cowboy · May 27, 2004, 05:17 PM

I Dunno you'd have to find a pin mapping to see what it does personally if you saved the fargment it's quite easy to put it back on. if not u could use copper of the same diameter.

Logla · May 27, 2004, 05:20 PM

I dont know for sure but. he can probably get away with finding a piece of metal small enough ad soldering it onto the chip.

I would imagine this would take a lot of care and would be something not to rush.

This is by no means perfect but It might work.

**MIG-31** · May 27, 2004, 05:49 PM

he does not have that peice. very small point on a long pile carpet..... not easy to find.don't know anybody who can solder good.i were just tinking of something along the lines of a small peice of copper then the cpu sitting tight on top as the cpu will not be removed for sometime,making contact with the existing solder point.

but as i did post i am very surprised it is still working even with that not making any contact in the socket point it goes in.

swimtech · May 27, 2004, 06:04 PM

This may seem juvenile, and I don't intend it to sound badly, but if it ain't broke - don't fix it.

Is he having any real problem?

**MIG-31** · May 27, 2004, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by swimtech
This may seem juvenile, and I don't intend it to sound badly, but if it ain't broke - don't fix it.

Is he having any real problem?

don't seem juvenile to me.i always take note to what members will say.

that were partly my point i past on and am doing so with my replies i will receive on his behalf.

everything seems stable,tried some heavy gaming no lockups or anything else that ma y be of a concern.

i would of thought that every single pin was there for a reason,i would of considered the bit i mentioned above but with it not being my rig the risk is even greater,the cost if things go wrong.

dipstick · May 27, 2004, 06:40 PM

If it still works he's better off just leaving it alone. It's probably just a power pin..

Zardon · May 27, 2004, 06:56 PM

he needs to clean that processor. if that artic silver gets onto his pins, he will have more to worry about.

**MIG-31** · May 27, 2004, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zardon
he needs to clean that processor. if that artic silver gets onto his pins, he will have more to worry about.

thats not the cpu in question. its mine that will be going up for sale soon. it will be cleaned in due course.

Asmoday · May 27, 2004, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnybravo
thats not the cpu in question. its mine that will be going up for sale soon. it will be cleaned in due course.

Damn!!..how did you get all that paste there...

**MIG-31** · May 27, 2004, 07:09 PM

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Originally posted by Cartman
Damn!!..how did you get all that paste there...

removing from heatsink!!!!! i am actually cleaning it up now.

been in there for some time it stuck so hard.

Zardon · May 27, 2004, 07:09 PM

you have been very lucky johny not to kill that cpu with that paste everywhere, it even looks on the pins to me.

swimtech · May 27, 2004, 07:13 PM

Yeah,

The likelihood of introducing a problem by trying to repair that pin then having it mate properly and lock in the socket is rather high.

I'd leave it alone - glad to hear that he isn't experiencing a failure...

Dom · May 27, 2004, 07:22 PM

If it's still working I would just leave it. Messing around with it by trying to replace the pin with copper is liable to fry it.

**MIG-31** · May 27, 2004, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zardon
you have been very lucky johny not to kill that cpu with that paste everywhere, it even looks on the pins to me.

look so on the piccie but believe me there not touching the pins.

now been cleaned up looks almost new.

Dom · May 27, 2004, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnybravo
look so on the piccie but believe me there not touching the pins.

now been cleaned up looks almost new.

Make sure it's all off before you reseat it, clean it with a tad of alcohol.

**MIG-31** · May 27, 2004, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dom
Make sure it's all off before you reseat it, clean it with a tad of alcohol.

like so.

Thanks i will be passing on the info.

swimtech · May 27, 2004, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnybravo
like so.

Thanks i will be passing on the info.

You look mahvelous dahlings!!!

Maybe a small watercolor brush dipped in alchohol along the top 2 rows (as viewed in pix) and the three rows along the left hand side... Those rows of pins look coated or discolored somehow..

I know... Picky, Picky, Picky...

free_refil · May 27, 2004, 09:34 PM

Not to mention half of the pins look bent! Bottom left hand ones bent, bottom two right pins bent, some bent ones on the top row, GEESH these things are fragile people!!!

**MIG-31** · May 27, 2004, 09:38 PM

they have been straightend out since the pic were taken.

Logla · May 27, 2004, 09:45 PM

And I for one can vouch for how easy it is for the pins to bend when removing the CPU cooler - which then takes the cpu with it and bends the pins on the way out of the ZIF socket.

Dom · May 27, 2004, 10:54 PM

Be careful with your CPUs, FFS!

***craig5320*** · May 27, 2004, 11:16 PM

how do you take the cpu off with the heatsink? i've never had one come out with the HS, I bent some pins tho only when i sat on it tho.

**MIG-31** · May 28, 2004, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by craig5320
how do you take the cpu off with the heatsink? i've never had one come out with the HS, I bent some pins tho only when i sat on it tho.

with mine its simple,just lift it straight up slowly & gently.the cpu comes out with the hs everytime.

**dj_stick** · May 28, 2004, 06:42 AM

my amd stays seated when i take my hsf off - maybe its only for p4s

pr0digal jenius · May 28, 2004, 09:02 AM

my xeons stay in when i pull the heatsinks off(that gets sloppy tho...damned grease)...of course..my heatsinks are the size of a SFF case....lol

Dom · May 28, 2004, 04:11 PM

It's do to the suction created in between the CPU and HSF when lifting the HSF off, because the P4 has a large area on which to apply the compound to, the pressure can rip the CPU out with the HSF.

Logla · May 28, 2004, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dom
It's do to the suction created in between the CPU and HSF when lifting the HSF off, because the P4 has a large area on which to apply the compound to, the pressure can rip the CPU out with the HSF.

Aah you beat me to it, Dom.

This happens with all my p4 cpus on which I have used things like AS3, AS5 and ceramique. Never with the thermal pad on the back of the stock hsf though

Asmoday · May 28, 2004, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dom
It's do to the suction created in between the CPU and HSF when lifting the HSF off, because the P4 has a large area on which to apply the compound to, the pressure can rip the CPU out with the HSF.

Jupp...same thing has happend numerous times to me too...in fact almost everytime i take off the cooling from the cpu, thats why i don't do it very often..

Dom · May 28, 2004, 06:47 PM

It actually happened to me once before...scared the crap out of me.

May 27, 2004, 04:14 PM	#1
MIG-31 HardwareHeaven News Mod Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nottingham,UK Posts: 56,821 Rep Power: 471 System Specs	p4 pin broken This post is on behalf of a friend with no net access. 1st) i posted this image of my p4. the problem is were i have circled in red the exact pin that has snapped of from his p4 3.2ghz 800fsb ht cpu.which he has had only for a very short while. this is the confusing part the cpu is still working at the speed it is both by windows hardware monitor and in the bios of the mobo. just a little curious to being able to somehow bridge the gap left by the missing pin by a small piece of copper. is that a dangerous thing to do or worth while trying,as he is probably not going to be able to have it replaced as it is used and is not a natural fault. if you need more info please ask.will appreciate the advice. __________________ Please Post Your News Submissions Here

May 27, 2004, 05:17 PM	#2
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	I Dunno you'd have to find a pin mapping to see what it does personally if you saved the fargment it's quite easy to put it back on. if not u could use copper of the same diameter. __________________

May 27, 2004, 05:49 PM	Thread Starter #4
MIG-31 HardwareHeaven News Mod Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nottingham,UK Posts: 56,821 Rep Power: 471 System Specs	he does not have that peice. very small point on a long pile carpet..... not easy to find.don't know anybody who can solder good.i were just tinking of something along the lines of a small peice of copper then the cpu sitting tight on top as the cpu will not be removed for sometime,making contact with the existing solder point. but as i did post i am very surprised it is still working even with that not making any contact in the socket point it goes in. __________________ Please Post Your News Submissions Here

May 27, 2004, 06:04 PM	#5
swimtech HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,040 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	This may seem juvenile, and I don't intend it to sound badly, but if it ain't broke - don't fix it. Is he having any real problem? __________________ It's not so much getting your way that matters or not - what matters is how you go about getting it.

May 27, 2004, 06:56 PM	#8
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	what a mess he needs to clean that processor. if that artic silver gets onto his pins, he will have more to worry about.

May 27, 2004, 05:20 PM	#3
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 0	I dont know for sure but. he can probably get away with finding a piece of metal small enough ad soldering it onto the chip. I would imagine this would take a lot of care and would be something not to rush. This is by no means perfect but It might work.

May 27, 2004, 06:40 PM	#7
dipstick HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,609 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	If it still works he's better off just leaving it alone. It's probably just a power pin..

May 27, 2004, 07:09 PM	#12
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	you have been very lucky johny not to kill that cpu with that paste everywhere, it even looks on the pins to me.

May 27, 2004, 07:13 PM	#13
swimtech HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,040 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	Yeah, The likelihood of introducing a problem by trying to repair that pin then having it mate properly and lock in the socket is rather high. I'd leave it alone - glad to hear that he isn't experiencing a failure... __________________ It's not so much getting your way that matters or not - what matters is how you go about getting it.

May 27, 2004, 07:22 PM	#14
Dom DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,940 Rep Power: 0	If it's still working I would just leave it. Messing around with it by trying to replace the pin with copper is liable to fry it.

May 27, 2004, 09:34 PM	#19
free_refil DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Stationed in Bahrain (Middle East) Posts: 100 Rep Power: 0	Not to mention half of the pins look bent! Bottom left hand ones bent, bottom two right pins bent, some bent ones on the top row, GEESH these things are fragile people!!! __________________ P4 2.8C 1:1 225MHz FSB Abit IC-7 Max 3 BIOS = F1, Strengthened, Auto x3 Geil GD @ 2/7/4/4 2.7v R9800 Pro 400/375 36.6 Raptors Raid 0 on ICH-5 CPU Cooling: SP-94 80mm Panaflo VGA Cooling: ZM-80C & ZM-OP1 Chipset Cooling: MCX-159

May 27, 2004, 09:38 PM	Thread Starter #20
MIG-31 HardwareHeaven News Mod Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nottingham,UK Posts: 56,821 Rep Power: 471 System Specs	they have been straightend out since the pic were taken. __________________ Please Post Your News Submissions Here

May 27, 2004, 09:45 PM	#21
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 0	And I for one can vouch for how easy it is for the pins to bend when removing the CPU cooler - which then takes the cpu with it and bends the pins on the way out of the ZIF socket.

May 27, 2004, 10:54 PM	#22
Dom DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,940 Rep Power: 0	Be careful with your CPUs, FFS!

May 27, 2004, 11:16 PM	#23
*craig5320* HH Administrator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 8,568 Rep Power: 445 System Specs	how do you take the cpu off with the heatsink? i've never had one come out with the HS, I bent some pins tho only when i sat on it tho. __________________ HardwareHeaven on Facebook

May 28, 2004, 09:02 AM	#26
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	my xeons stay in when i pull the heatsinks off(that gets sloppy tho...damned grease)...of course..my heatsinks are the size of a SFF case....lol

May 28, 2004, 04:11 PM	#27
Dom DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,940 Rep Power: 0	It's do to the suction created in between the CPU and HSF when lifting the HSF off, because the P4 has a large area on which to apply the compound to, the pressure can rip the CPU out with the HSF.

May 28, 2004, 06:47 PM	#30
Dom DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,940 Rep Power: 0	It actually happened to me once before...scared the crap out of me.