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Old Jul 3, 2004, 02:58 PM   #1
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??? Monitor Problems??

Hey gang i recently noticed that my monitor is acting a lil funny. On the left side, the screen jerks back and forth quickly. It doesn't do this violently, but if u stare at it u will notice it. The right side is completely fine, it doesn' t move at all. I thought it might have been the video card because it's oc'ed, but i returned it to stock speeds and the jerkiness was still there. I've had this monitor for 3 yrs now, and it's a KDS AV-195TF. I can't remember if it did this before. Is this a normal thing, or is it a sign that my monitor needs to be replaced sometime soon?

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I just checked again and both sides jerk. The left is more noticeable than the right...

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Ide check for a driver update for your monitor first. Whats your refresh set on the monitor 75mhz or above?
But your monitor could be going out by the way your desribing to me sounds like the display might be going out. other thing you could try is does your video card have a vga and a digtal output for the monitor if so try connecting your monitor to the digtal output. let me me know if this helps you good luck man...............
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Ide check for a driver update for your monitor first. Whats your refresh set on the monitor 75mhz or above?
But your monitor could be going out by the way your desribing to me sounds like the display might be going out. other thing you could try is does your video card have a vga and a digtal output for the monitor if so try connecting your monitor to the digtal output. let me me know if this helps you good luck man...............
thanks for the suggestion. unfortuantely my model has be discontinued for a while now, so i doubt it has any driver updates. My refresh rate is set at 75 mhz, mainly because it is best for my eyes. I will try the digital output for my card.

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I tried to use the digital output using a dvi-i to vga converter, but the monitor didn't get any signal...

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Old Jul 3, 2004, 04:02 PM   #4
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Well if i was you ide think about getting a new monitor or you could try changing drivers for your video card its a thought good luck if you figure it out let me know.........
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well thanks for the suggestions so far, jeff. I wrote KDS and told them about the problem. Now i gotta wait for their reply. I am not sure if i am still under warranty. I will keep u informed...
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You don't happen to have anything magnetic or electrical standing closeby on the left side of the monitor? If so, then try increasing the space between the two.
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well i do have my klipsch front speakers to the left and right of the monitor, but i believe they r magnetically shielded... They r the 4.1's, btw.
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*bump*
just bumped it, cuz the "shaking" of the image on the screen is getting more noticable and wanted to know if anyone had any ideas why it is doing this... anyways, i also tried to get in contact with kds, but neither their support nor tech emails work; the message was sent back each time... so does anyone have any ideas why my monitor is acting up like this?
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does it get better if you lower your refresh rate?
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sounds like it's a magnetic problem. anything like fans or some screwdrivers could cause this.
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does it get better if you lower your refresh rate?
strangely vamp, when i decrease the refresh rate, it's still there, but less noticable. i currently have my rate at 75 mhz, but i need it there, because it's the best for my eyes. i decreased it to 70 and even 60, but my eyes started hurting....
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sounds like it's a magnetic problem. anything like fans or some screwdrivers could cause this.
well i do have my klipsch 4.1 front speakers to the left and right of the monitor, but they're magnetically shielded i believe... other than those, i don't have anything else, but a clock radio, but it's at a lower level than the monitor...
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Have you checked the cables, or tried a higher refresh rate as well?
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Have you checked the cables, or tried a higher refresh rate as well?
no, i haven't checked the cables, but i will. i did try 85 mhz and it is still there, but less noticable; i have to look closely at the screen to see it. so is this a monitor, or vid card or driver problem?
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it's your horizontal hold on the monitor... the capasitors or traces could be getting hot or having a lose connection...... please.. take your monitor to a place to get fixed ASAP.... you do not want to suddenly lose your computer while might having something important to do.. as you might not be able to slap it back into opteration.... hopefully you still have warranty... but to get it fixed is easy and doesn't take long at all as long as there isn't any additional damage....
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it's your horizontal hold on the monitor... the capasitors or traces could be getting hot or having a lose connection...... please.. take your monitor to a place to get fixed ASAP.... you do not want to suddenly lose your computer while might having something important to do.. as you might not be able to slap it back into opteration.... hopefully you still have warranty... but to get it fixed is easy and doesn't take long at all as long as there isn't any additional damage....
well it does seem to be somewhat warm to the touch at the top of it. as for "losing my computer" would it affect the other components or do u mean just losing the monitor alone? also i've been trying to contact kds via email but they don't seem to work, i will try their phone service. i don't know if i am still under warranty, though i doubt it...
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KDS monitors sometimes have a habit of having horizontal hold falling appart.. i have had 4 KDS monitors... 1 started flipping out on the left side 6 months after purchase.... AND NO, you will only lose your monitor until you get it fixed... i just said the computer as in general terms... as it's kinda use one without a monitor ....
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KDS monitors sometimes have a habit of having horizontal hold falling appart.. i have had 4 KDS monitors... 1 started flipping out on the left side 6 months after purchase.... AND NO, you will only lose your monitor until you get it fixed... i just said the computer as in general terms... as it's kinda use one without a monitor ....
well thanks for the info, judas. i will try and contact kds and see what they can do for me. btw, what monitor do u have now?
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currently happily sitting with a Samsung SyncMaster 900IFT one of the most high quality monitors Samsung has ever produced... next step up from it is a 1100DF...but is worth twice as much...
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currently happily sitting with a Samsung SyncMaster 900IFT one of the most high quality monitors Samsung has ever produced... next step up from it is a 1100DF...but is worth twice as much...
ohhh, where did u buy it? is it a CRT or LCD?
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CRT is the only way to get quality..... no matter what anyone says... you can not get the quality a CRT display compared to any form of LCD.. just not possible yet... or for awhile yet.... I got my samsung monitor from CompuSmart (local store here)..... i know you can pick em up alot of other places..... finding a 900IFT is probably not going to happen... but the 1100DF's are currently available all over the place... (1100 DF is a 22inch monitor supporting 2048x1536@80hz and a dot pitch of 0.20 currently going for 12-$1300 canadian here)
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what graphics card do you have, by the way?
i have a 9800 pro. recently bought, but oc'ed to 412/365. do u think it might be the card?
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no, I'd guess it's the monitor.
but I was gonna ask if you tried playing around with the hor/vert Synchronizations.
if not: open the ATI Control Panel, Displays tab, click on Monitor bar, Advanced tab
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no, I'd guess it's the monitor.
but I was gonna ask if you tried playing around with the hor/vert Synchronizations.
if not: open the ATI Control Panel, Displays tab, click on Monitor bar, Advanced tab
and just try different combinations of +/- on Horizontal and Vertical.
just something else to try.
thanks vampy, but that didn't work.
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sorry, bud. the only other thing I can think of is to check if any of the pins on the cable are bent,
or sometimes the tips can be "forked", look like split ends. if possible, try a new, high-quality shielded cable.
if none of the above, I'd say the monitor is just slowly dying/not that great.
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sorry, bud. the only other thing I can think of is to check if any of the pins on the cable are bent,
or sometimes the tips can be "forked", look like split ends. if possible, try a new, high-quality shielded cable.
if none of the above, I'd say the monitor is just slowly dying/not that great.
i will check the pins. dunno where i can find a shielded cable for it, cuz it use 2 agp adapters for it. one to connect to the monitor itself and the other for the vid card. it maybe the monitor is dying. i was growing so attached to it. it allowed me to view many a pr0n flick late at night...
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did you try to blow it out . it may be dusty i would just blow it out through the vents and NOT take off the back cover and dont forget to unlug it and let it cool before blowing it out
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did you try to blow it out . it may be dusty i would just blow it out through the vents and NOT take off the back cover and dont forget to unlug it and let it cool before blowing it out
no, i haven't tried that, but thanks for the suggestion. briefly looking at it, it does looks somewhat dusty through the vents. i don't know how much air i could in there, cuz the vents r a bunch of small holes. i will get me a few cans of air hopefully this weekend and try it.
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