newegg AMD 64 + mobo = free farcry

Son_of_Thunder · Jul 18, 2004, 03:10 PM

http://images10.newegg.com/uploadFil...egg/farcry.htm

well, i just got done w/ my graduation open house...i racked in $855 USD

now, if you follow any of my other posts you know that i'm planning on getting a x800xtpe. that's a gift from someone else...so really you figure my total ammount in gifts is around $1400

w/ the XTPE coming in i'd like to upgrade the rest of my system to keep up w/ it (fairly well at least) i'm already going to be getting another stick of corsair value select pc3200 512mb ram (not too great, i kno...) but i'd like to know what processor and mobo you guys recommend.

i just read on hardocp.com that they took the abit kv8pro mobo and the Athlon 64 3000 and oc'ed it to reach the speeds of the 3500! so would you guys recommend getting the 3000 and the kv8pro and just buying the $25 version of farcry? i mean really that would save me 5 dollars off from their promotion offer if i was going to go w/ their abit.

feedback is appreciated

oh yah, if i order this by tuesday i get to bring it to a LAN party this upcoming weekend

dipstick · Jul 18, 2004, 03:17 PM

Good choice on the cpu, it will OC well. But you're really taking a chance on the board as not all via's have working locks. Apparently there are a few revisions and if you donâ€™t know which exactly you're getting it is a gamble. I would go for the NF3-250 personally. But I thought that FarCry came with all retail A64's, unless they changed that recently. Either way you can get a copy for almost nothing on ebay

Son_of_Thunder · Jul 18, 2004, 03:27 PM

i chose that mobo simply because of the review on hardocp http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjI5

however they did say that it was using a BIOS revision that was not yet out

also, is the Athlon 64bit 3200 worth the extra 60 dollars?

dipstick · Jul 18, 2004, 03:44 PM

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Originally posted by sthunder
i chose that mobo simply because of the review on hardocp http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjI5

however they did say that it was using a BIOS revision that was not yet out

also, is the Athlon 64bit 3200 worth the extra 60 dollars?

Well, I would not base my purchase on one review. If you go to the Abit section of amdmb.com you'll see that some have had great luck but there are many more unlucky ones. Itâ€™s just a gamble I would not be willing to make when a guaranteed to OC NF3 board is available to me. As for the 3200+, if it has the 1MB L2 I think it'd worth it for sure.

CDsDontBurn · Jul 18, 2004, 04:18 PM

I've sold some A64 systems/MoBo CPU combos at work; some of the A64 systems/MoBo CPU combos have had stability problems with low end memory. Spend a little more on Corsair XMS, or other high end name brand memory. I also agree w/getting the A64 3200 for another $60. Not only are you getting higher clock speeds, but you would also be getting a 1Mb L2 cache.

Son_of_Thunder · Jul 18, 2004, 04:50 PM

but the 3200's on newegg are only 512L2, unless i go for the OEM, but i tend not to deal w/ OEM stuff

--timelapse--

same thing w/ the 3200's on zipzoomfly

CDsDontBurn · Jul 18, 2004, 05:08 PM

well, get the 3200 for the higher stock clock speeds then.

Vampyromaniac · Jul 18, 2004, 06:42 PM

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Originally posted by sthunder
also, is the Athlon 64bit 3200 worth the extra 60 dollars?

Imo, not worth it. Paying an extra 25% just for 10% more clockspeed. But it's up to you.

@/2ct!< · Jul 18, 2004, 07:52 PM

If you can find a 3200+ CG non-mobile 1mb clammer, snatch that as fast as you can. If not, just grab the 3000+, no real need in getting a 3200+ newcastle unless you feel like burning money, seriously it could be spent much better somewhere else. THe 3000+ usually ocs farther than a C0 3200+

dipstick · Jul 18, 2004, 08:13 PM

I agree, if it doesn't have the 1mb L2 then its not really worth it. The 3000+ will OC nicely.

CDsDontBurn · Jul 18, 2004, 09:25 PM

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Originally posted by Vampyromaniac
Imo, not worth it. Paying an extra 25% just for 10% more clockspeed. But it's up to you.

The way i see it though is like this. If you're going from a p2 400Mhz or p3 800Mhz or something of that sort, and you're going to get a p4 3.2Ghz w/HT or an AMD64 3000 or 3200. So spending the extra 25% in that kind of scenario is more like getting 1000% performance increase.

CDsDontBurn · Jul 18, 2004, 09:42 PM

OCing is nice yes, but then you need to get into voltage and heat issues.

Son_of_Thunder · Jul 18, 2004, 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by Pac-Man
The way i see it though is like this. If you're going from a p2 400Mhz or p3 800Mhz or something of that sort, and you're going to get a p4 3.2Ghz w/HT or an AMD64 3000 or 3200. So spending the extra 25% in that kind of scenario is more like getting 1000% performance increase.

yes, but i'm going from a barton 2800+

zipzoomfly is also having the same sale, except that they're out of stock as far as farcry goes (so i can't add it to the order, but i want this new hardware before the weekend

) but anyways, i can get an MSI Neo Platnum nf3 250Gb for only 125 dollars, and from what i've read that is a great mobo!

so what i'm planning on doing right now, is getting the Neo Plat, athlon 64 3000, another 512mb of corsair value select, and then i'm just going to get farcry later...i guess...

Drakon · Jul 18, 2004, 10:29 PM

sorry to go a lil off-topic here, would buying an OEM cpu be a good thing to do? what really makes OEM different from Retail in the case of computer components?

dipstick · Jul 18, 2004, 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by Drakon
sorry to go a lil off-topic here, would buying an OEM cpu be a good thing to do? what really makes OEM different from Retail in the case of computer components?

3year vs 30 day warranty and no heatsink with oem

BTW, good mobo choice sthunder. That will not dissapoint

CDsDontBurn · Jul 18, 2004, 10:53 PM

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Originally posted by dipstick
3year vs 30 day warranty and no heatsink with oem

BTW, good mobo choice sthunder. That will not dissapoint

OEM = 1yr. warranty, not 30 day.

dipstick · Jul 18, 2004, 10:59 PM

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Originally posted by Pac-Man
OEM = 1yr. warranty, not 30 day.

Where did you see this? Must be a store warranty, newegg and all others I've seen are 30days.

Vampyromaniac · Jul 18, 2004, 11:18 PM

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Originally posted by Pac-Man
So spending the extra 25% in that kind of scenario is more like getting 1000% performance increase.

whereas not spending extra 25% with the 3000+ would be what, 910% better?
same difference, 10% between the two. only your way of looking at it is just more complicated.
it doesn't matter what you have before, when you are only talking about the difference between two new chips.

I can use an analogy.
Say you're buying bottles of Pepsi.
You can buy 3 bottles or 5 bottles.
5 would be 66% more Pepsi than 3.

It doesn't matter if you already have 2 bottles at home, it's still the same difference.
2 at home + buying 3, will be 150% more soda than before.
2 at home + buying 5, will be 250% more than before.
250 is how much more than 150?
66%

same, no matter which way you look at it.

Drakon · Jul 19, 2004, 02:26 AM

wow, someone surely passed math in school...

Vampyromaniac · Jul 19, 2004, 08:20 AM

To bade i suk at Inglish

mainman · Jul 19, 2004, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vampyromaniac
To bade i suk at Inglish

CDsDontBurn · Jul 19, 2004, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dipstick
Where did you see this? Must be a store warranty, newegg and all others I've seen are 30days.

At my work

Quote:

Originally posted by Vampyromaniac
whereas not spending extra 25% with the 3000+ would be what, 910% better?
same difference, 10% between the two. only your way of looking at it is just more complicated.
it doesn't matter what you have before, when you are only talking about the difference between two new chips.

I can use an analogy.
Say you're buying bottles of Pepsi.
You can buy 3 bottles or 5 bottles.
5 would be 66% more Pepsi than 3.

It doesn't matter if you already have 2 bottles at home, it's still the same difference.
2 at home + buying 3, will be 150% more soda than before.
2 at home + buying 5, will be 250% more than before.
250 is how much more than 150?
66%

same, no matter which way you look at it.

True dat. However, in your analogy, 66% is a big increase. A 66% increase in pretty much everything is a pretty large increase, especially when it comes to computers today.

Jul 18, 2004, 03:10 PM	#1
Son_of_Thunder HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 1,441 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	newegg AMD 64 + mobo = free farcry http://images10.newegg.com/uploadFil...egg/farcry.htm well, i just got done w/ my graduation open house...i racked in $855 USD now, if you follow any of my other posts you know that i'm planning on getting a x800xtpe. that's a gift from someone else...so really you figure my total ammount in gifts is around $1400 w/ the XTPE coming in i'd like to upgrade the rest of my system to keep up w/ it (fairly well at least) i'm already going to be getting another stick of corsair value select pc3200 512mb ram (not too great, i kno...) but i'd like to know what processor and mobo you guys recommend. i just read on hardocp.com that they took the abit kv8pro mobo and the Athlon 64 3000 and oc'ed it to reach the speeds of the 3500! so would you guys recommend getting the 3000 and the kv8pro and just buying the $25 version of farcry? i mean really that would save me 5 dollars off from their promotion offer if i was going to go w/ their abit. feedback is appreciated oh yah, if i order this by tuesday i get to bring it to a LAN party this upcoming weekend __________________

Jul 18, 2004, 03:27 PM	Thread Starter #3
Son_of_Thunder HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 1,441 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	i chose that mobo simply because of the review on hardocp http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjI5 however they did say that it was using a BIOS revision that was not yet out also, is the Athlon 64bit 3200 worth the extra 60 dollars? __________________

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CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	I've sold some A64 systems/MoBo CPU combos at work; some of the A64 systems/MoBo CPU combos have had stability problems with low end memory. Spend a little more on Corsair XMS, or other high end name brand memory. I also agree w/getting the A64 3200 for another $60. Not only are you getting higher clock speeds, but you would also be getting a 1Mb L2 cache. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Jul 18, 2004, 04:50 PM	Thread Starter #6
Son_of_Thunder HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 1,441 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	but the 3200's on newegg are only 512L2, unless i go for the OEM, but i tend not to deal w/ OEM stuff --timelapse-- same thing w/ the 3200's on zipzoomfly __________________

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CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	well, get the 3200 for the higher stock clock speeds then. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Jul 18, 2004, 03:17 PM	#2
dipstick HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,609 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	Good choice on the cpu, it will OC well. But you're really taking a chance on the board as not all via's have working locks. Apparently there are a few revisions and if you donâ€™t know which exactly you're getting it is a gamble. I would go for the NF3-250 personally. But I thought that FarCry came with all retail A64's, unless they changed that recently. Either way you can get a copy for almost nothing on ebay

Jul 18, 2004, 07:52 PM	#9
@/2ct!< HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Not Vegas, anymore :( Posts: 1,391 Rep Power: 0	If you can find a 3200+ CG non-mobile 1mb clammer, snatch that as fast as you can. If not, just grab the 3000+, no real need in getting a 3200+ newcastle unless you feel like burning money, seriously it could be spent much better somewhere else. THe 3000+ usually ocs farther than a C0 3200+ __________________

Jul 18, 2004, 08:13 PM	#10
dipstick HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,609 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	I agree, if it doesn't have the 1mb L2 then its not really worth it. The 3000+ will OC nicely.

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CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	OCing is nice yes, but then you need to get into voltage and heat issues. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

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Drakon DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Floatin'... Posts: 4,957 Rep Power: 0	sorry to go a lil off-topic here, would buying an OEM cpu be a good thing to do? what really makes OEM different from Retail in the case of computer components?

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Drakon DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Floatin'... Posts: 4,957 Rep Power: 0	wow, someone surely passed math in school...

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