major problem: fans are shutting down

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Jul 25, 2004, 04:54 AM

yesterday i got another stick of 512 ddr 400 just for some doom 3 prep

so its running in dual channel. just a bit ago i left the room for some ice cream, comp was turned off but i never turned it off. i tried power it on didnt power on. i got afraid my mobo went, cause my 800 athlon did the same thing and the mobo was fried (maybe a power spike).

so fine i reset the bios, computer is back to life but no fans are working. i reset again let everything sit for a few mins and everything comes back. as i reset my cmos values, my CPU temp was at 110 degress, i got so afraid so i blasted my volcano at 5500 rpm to cool it. starts dropping all the way down to its usual 55 degress which is still damn high. i boot into windows all the fans DIE except my radeon and northbridge fan. i turn it off really quickly. i take out my second stick of ram and needed to reset the bios.

CPU overheating protection is one of the greatest things invented by the way, saved my processor's life lol

so basically the second stick is messing everything up, i'm thinking this is a power related problem because i have a load of stuff and the second stick of ram might be killing it. my comp specs are below (including my PSU which is 350w, just a generic one) or could this be faulty ram

both samsung sticks of 512 ddr 400, i really got worried. I was running PAT (or MAT as MSI calls it) at turbo, someone please help me asap haha thanks

Judas · Jul 25, 2004, 04:57 AM

hmmm... 350 watt psu...... strange.. i'm running probably way more power sucking components than you and i'm pushing it all with a faily cheap model of enermax.. (not cheap cheap.).... 350 watts..... i SERIOUSLY need a better psu though.... strange... approx 20 watts drawn with an extra stick of ram... try unplugging some useless stuff or something that draw power... say disconnect a cd-rom drive and pull out your audigy or any other addin's that aren't being used..

BTW... remember... DISABLE anything that you don't use or don't plan on using in your bios.... say for example a Printer port.. or serial ports or even some IDE or SATA ports... anything that'll cut back on resources or anything....

**dj_stick** · Jul 25, 2004, 04:58 AM

ok it sounds like it could be a power supply issue - try swapping the sticks around to see if it is faulty ram - but that shouldn't affect fan speed - my guess is you have been hoverign close to the limits of your psu, and the second mem chip tipped it over

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Jul 25, 2004, 04:59 AM

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Originally posted by Judas
hmmm... 350 watt psu...... strange.. i'm running probably way more power sucking components than you and i'm pushing it all with a faily cheap model of enermax.. (not cheap cheap.).... 350 watts..... i SERIOUSLY need a better psu though.... strange... approx 20 watts drawn with an extra stick of ram... try unplugging some useless stuff or something that draw power... say disconnect a cd-rom drive and pull out your audigy or any other addin's that aren't being used..

hmm yea i could pull out my dvd drive but ill do it another day maybe monday. i just wanna watch some pr0n in peace tonite

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Jul 25, 2004, 04:59 AM

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Originally posted by dj_stick
ok it sounds like it could be a power supply issue - try swapping the sticks around to see if it is faulty ram - but that shouldn't affect fan speed - my guess is you have been hoverign close to the limits of your psu, and the second mem chip tipped it over

yea im thinking that too... err would somebody be able to give me an estimate of how much power my setup is sucking?

Judas · Jul 25, 2004, 05:00 AM

usually for a good quality PSU such as enermax or Antech.... if he had overloaded the PSU... the entire machine would shutdown... not just the fans.... makes me wonder.... BBP... you running a damn good over/under surger protector? not just any cheap one either.... it might be of value to pick up a damn cheap APC UPS power bar..... the cheapest ones go for 30-40 bucks canadian and give anywere from 5 to 15 minutes of backup time..

Judas · Jul 25, 2004, 05:03 AM

http://www.challenge-my.com/goopsulator/ <~ VERY detailed calculator

http://www.adecy.com/psu/ a bit simpler

there are a dozen out there...

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Jul 25, 2004, 05:07 AM

judas man i love you honestly

i calculated and its 354.17625599999996

im sure its more than that since i put some stuff a little lower

so definitely i need a new PSU, having a good powerbar your very correct im gonna get one at my new house since power in my building is quite stable and i shouldnt have to worry for this next month and a half

Judas · Jul 25, 2004, 05:09 AM

you'd be serprised that even a house that looks stable.... may have the worse spikes ever..... nothing worse for a computer then a brown out..... i've learnt the hard way! BTW.. according to both Caculators. i'm 100 watt over my PSU's limit.....

**dj_stick** · Jul 25, 2004, 05:10 AM

according to that second one i am breaking the limit of my PSU but 57w - maybe that explains why my system has trouble cold booting

drakesteakn · Jul 25, 2004, 04:29 PM

well i checked my 3000+ system on the second one too and i'm 90 Watt short on my psu, and on my A64 3200+ i'm short 50Watt short. man i need to get new PSUs

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Jul 26, 2004, 03:08 AM

so you guys think if i get the new PSU my problems should be gone?

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Jul 27, 2004, 05:44 AM

bought a thermaltake purepower 420w PSU for 70 bucks CDN quickly and that did it, thanks a lot guys

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Jul 28, 2004, 04:01 AM

guys even if its in single channel its shutting off and im having problems cold booting at times

im getting worried... any additional advice would help

Judas · Jul 28, 2004, 07:04 AM

still having troubles?...hmm... possibly something faulty with the ram slot.. i know that if there is some kind of short detected or something... parts or most of the machine will cut power...

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Jul 29, 2004, 04:51 AM

well i sent it into the store where i bought it from

i just hope i can get a replacement board within a week at most

Jul 25, 2004, 04:54 AM	#1
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,717 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	major problem: fans are shutting down yesterday i got another stick of 512 ddr 400 just for some doom 3 prep so its running in dual channel. just a bit ago i left the room for some ice cream, comp was turned off but i never turned it off. i tried power it on didnt power on. i got afraid my mobo went, cause my 800 athlon did the same thing and the mobo was fried (maybe a power spike). so fine i reset the bios, computer is back to life but no fans are working. i reset again let everything sit for a few mins and everything comes back. as i reset my cmos values, my CPU temp was at 110 degress, i got so afraid so i blasted my volcano at 5500 rpm to cool it. starts dropping all the way down to its usual 55 degress which is still damn high. i boot into windows all the fans DIE except my radeon and northbridge fan. i turn it off really quickly. i take out my second stick of ram and needed to reset the bios. CPU overheating protection is one of the greatest things invented by the way, saved my processor's life lol so basically the second stick is messing everything up, i'm thinking this is a power related problem because i have a load of stuff and the second stick of ram might be killing it. my comp specs are below (including my PSU which is 350w, just a generic one) or could this be faulty ram both samsung sticks of 512 ddr 400, i really got worried. I was running PAT (or MAT as MSI calls it) at turbo, someone please help me asap haha thanks __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

Jul 25, 2004, 05:07 AM	Thread Starter #8
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,717 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	judas man i love you honestly i calculated and its 354.17625599999996 im sure its more than that since i put some stuff a little lower so definitely i need a new PSU, having a good powerbar your very correct im gonna get one at my new house since power in my building is quite stable and i shouldnt have to worry for this next month and a half __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

Jul 25, 2004, 04:29 PM	#11
drakesteakn boo!!!! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ft. Meyers, FL Posts: 2,041 Rep Power: 0	well i checked my 3000+ system on the second one too and i'm 90 Watt short on my psu, and on my A64 3200+ i'm short 50Watt short. man i need to get new PSUs __________________

Jul 26, 2004, 03:08 AM	Thread Starter #12
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,717 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	so you guys think if i get the new PSU my problems should be gone? __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

Jul 27, 2004, 05:44 AM	Thread Starter #13
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,717 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	bought a thermaltake purepower 420w PSU for 70 bucks CDN quickly and that did it, thanks a lot guys __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

Jul 28, 2004, 04:01 AM	Thread Starter #14
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,717 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	guys even if its in single channel its shutting off and im having problems cold booting at times im getting worried... any additional advice would help __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

Jul 29, 2004, 04:51 AM	Thread Starter #16
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,717 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	well i sent it into the store where i bought it from i just hope i can get a replacement board within a week at most __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard