3200 Xl Pro ram problem

madcat1488 · Aug 4, 2004, 03:06 AM

I had a one gig of this low latency ram in my pc. I decided to add another gig of the same ram of course. BUt now I notice when i put in an extra gig the ram mhgz goes from 200 to 166 and it changes to 333 instead of 400. And my bios doesnt let me change the mghz back up to 200 why is it doing this when i add the extra ram?

dipstick · Aug 4, 2004, 04:03 AM

Some boards do this for stability. What size are the sticks and what mobo are you using?

madcat1488 · Aug 4, 2004, 04:25 AM

I have four 512mb it's the av8 abit board for the 939 chips
They disable fsb overcllocking and it pisses me of and now I can't even put my ram at default anymore

dipstick · Aug 4, 2004, 11:30 AM

It wont even let you overide to DDR400? That just hurts bud. I guess all you can do is hope for a new bios to fix it(doubtfull) or wait for NF3 Ultra prices to drop. Sorry

Vampyromaniac · Aug 5, 2004, 07:28 AM

didnt you have a similar problem with a Asus K8V board, dipstick?

dipstick · Aug 5, 2004, 01:14 PM

Yep, and it seems they still haven't haven't fixed it after two new chipsets

Vampyromaniac · Aug 5, 2004, 07:28 PM

ah wait I think there are 2 separate issues . . . one being when you populate too many slots, they run at slower speed (like madcat), the other being the mobo forcing even just one DIMM to slower speed because it reads the rating from the SPD (like dipstick had). wonder if they've changed the latter by now?

dipstick · Aug 5, 2004, 08:44 PM

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Originally posted by Vampyromaniac
ah wait I think there are 2 separate issues . . . one being when you populate too many slots, they run at slower speed (like madcat), the other being the mobo forcing even just one DIMM to slower speed because it reads the rating from the SPD (like dipstick had). wonder if they've changed the latter by now?

yeah, those are two separate ones but I dont think he's suffering from the SPD reading since the XL ram is very new and should definitely be getting picked up as DDR400.

madcat1488 · Aug 5, 2004, 09:17 PM

thats true as long as it is no moree then a gig it reads as 400

GutterPunk · Aug 5, 2004, 09:42 PM

running 1 stick at a time do you get ddr400 on each stick, try running something like memtest to search for errors as an error can bring your ram functionality down. i dunno if it would drop the speed tho

Vampyromaniac · Aug 5, 2004, 09:44 PM

the motherboard is just made that way

dipstick · Aug 5, 2004, 11:15 PM

The problem is the early boards cannot not run more than four banks at DDR400. Since most ram made today is double sided you're maxed with two sticks. The NF3-250's do not suffer from this but the VIA kT800 and NF3-150 definitely do from my testing. Seems VIA still has this problem

Aug 4, 2004, 03:06 AM	#1
madcat1488 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 97 Rep Power: 0	3200 Xl Pro ram problem I had a one gig of this low latency ram in my pc. I decided to add another gig of the same ram of course. BUt now I notice when i put in an extra gig the ram mhgz goes from 200 to 166 and it changes to 333 instead of 400. And my bios doesnt let me change the mghz back up to 200 why is it doing this when i add the extra ram?

Aug 5, 2004, 07:28 AM	#5
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Aug 5, 2004, 07:28 PM	#7
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	ah wait I think there are 2 separate issues . . . one being when you populate too many slots, they run at slower speed (like madcat), the other being the mobo forcing even just one DIMM to slower speed because it reads the rating from the SPD (like dipstick had). wonder if they've changed the latter by now? __________________ *Digitalis 3.3* Athlon 64 3000 // ASUS K8V SE Deluxe // 1024MB PC3200 (2-2-2-10 1T) ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro // 20" Dell 2005FPW (DVI) M-Audio Revo 7.1 + Philips Acoustic Edge // Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 320/16 Western Digital WD3200KS + 120/8 Seagate 7200.7 NEC ND-3550A 16x DVD±RW + Lite-On 52x24x CD-RW Antec Sonata case // 480W Antec TruePower personal bests \|\| Aq'3: 46796 \| 3D'01: 20461 \| 3D'03: 6336 \| 3D'05: 2677 \| PC'04: 4605 \| PC'02: 7691,9092,1250

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Aug 4, 2004, 04:03 AM	#2
dipstick HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,609 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	Some boards do this for stability. What size are the sticks and what mobo are you using?

Aug 4, 2004, 04:25 AM	Thread Starter #3
madcat1488 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 97 Rep Power: 0	I have four 512mb it's the av8 abit board for the 939 chips They disable fsb overcllocking and it pisses me of and now I can't even put my ram at default anymore

Aug 4, 2004, 11:30 AM	#4
dipstick HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,609 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	It wont even let you overide to DDR400? That just hurts bud. I guess all you can do is hope for a new bios to fix it(doubtfull) or wait for NF3 Ultra prices to drop. Sorry

Aug 5, 2004, 01:14 PM	#6
dipstick HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,609 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	Yep, and it seems they still haven't haven't fixed it after two new chipsets

Aug 5, 2004, 09:17 PM	Thread Starter #9
madcat1488 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 97 Rep Power: 0	thats true as long as it is no moree then a gig it reads as 400

Aug 5, 2004, 11:15 PM	#12
dipstick HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,609 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	The problem is the early boards cannot not run more than four banks at DDR400. Since most ram made today is double sided you're maxed with two sticks. The NF3-250's do not suffer from this but the VIA kT800 and NF3-150 definitely do from my testing. Seems VIA still has this problem