Problems with computer all of a sudden... a lot...

merlinxi · Nov 2, 2004, 05:58 PM

OUt of no where my sound on my computer does not work, and DirectX can not detect it. (I am using 6.1 Digital output on my MSI motherboard.)

My video framerate is extremely slow. With 3d Mark 05 score went around 2000. (i have x800 xt). My normal score was 5800.

Something is defintely wrong here, did my DirectX get corupted or something, cause re-installing drivers does not work. Help...

Merlin

Chaos · Nov 2, 2004, 07:01 PM

have you scanned you system for spyware/viruses

Judas · Nov 2, 2004, 07:09 PM

are you getting reboots... did you install something just before it happened?

Geminiwave · Nov 2, 2004, 08:45 PM

have you reinstalled the mobo drivers?

edit: or maybe they got turned off in the BIOS somehow?

Vampyromaniac · Nov 3, 2004, 05:53 PM

try re-installing DriectX?

merlinxi · Nov 3, 2004, 07:12 PM

It's the overclocking. I have my p4 3.0 overlcoked to 3.20. And my sound deactivates. Does anyone have any idea why this happens? Once i put it down back to normal, it works fine. Beleive my pentium is way belowt he safe range, it doesn't get about 40 degrees celsius on load. And I heard peolple running my pentium on 3.6 at 70 degrees celsius. Why do I get all these damn problems???

NafÃ©

Zardon · Nov 3, 2004, 07:26 PM

if you are overclocking on FSB which I reckon you would be unless you have a semi unlocked CPU, its more than likely down to your ram not handling the FSB or your mobo crapping out. Are your rails ok?

Need more system specification information, you have gave none.

merlinxi · Nov 3, 2004, 07:31 PM

I have a Pentium 4 3.0E (800 FSB) Ghz Processor
The MSI 6578 PCb Revision 2.0 motherboard.
1 Gig of Pc3200 Ram.
Running WIndows XP sp2

Zardon · Nov 3, 2004, 07:33 PM

Its not the CPU thermal throttling as you are only at 40c..... have you tried relaxing the ram timings when you are overclocking? remember some DDR3200 wont hit much over 200/400 especially on stock voltage.

did you measure your rails in the bios? 12v/5v? I dont have that motherboard but you could try raising the voltage from 1.5 to 1.55 if you have the option. you really need to start playing with timings.

first thing get your rail readings.

merlinxi · Nov 3, 2004, 07:34 PM

Rail readings as in the voltage at which the ram is running?

Zardon · Nov 3, 2004, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by merlinxi

Rail readings as in the voltage at which the ram is running?

no if you go into your hardware monitoring section within the bios you will see rails which the power supply is giving your equipment. if you can look at the 5v and 12v rail readings, they will say something like 12.23v or 12.65v on the 12 line and 5.x on the 5 volt line.

let me know what they say - then install the motherboard software within windows (or motherboard monitor 5 which should have support for that board even though its been discontinued) which should also show rail readings, you want to see how these move under load. meaning run an application like pcmark02 or sandra CPU tests and watch the 5v and 12 v feeds under 100% use - real time.

Geminiwave · Nov 3, 2004, 09:17 PM

you know what else it could be? I dunno if this is true for onboard audio, but my soundcard torches when I overclock and it was because I didnt have PCI clockrate lock on. Maybe your lock isnt on either? Just a thought.

Another idea may be that you should increase the PCI latency a bit. That generally helps when I'm overclocking and the sound goes dead.

that being said, I have an AMD system and an ASUS board, so it is possible that none of this would apply to you.

Nacht · Nov 3, 2004, 11:53 PM

Sounds like an issue with the ram not being able to hit that speed to me. try putting the dram frequency down when you oc, and see if that makes a difference.

Geminiwave · Nov 4, 2004, 12:24 AM

or the dram voltage up?

merlinxi · Nov 4, 2004, 02:47 PM

All the rail readings are normal. I got it to work, but still in the middle of playing music or a game, my sound will shut off. This is really quite annoying. It als happens even with the Pentium not overclocked, maybe I just have crappy ram.

Merlinxi

Nov 2, 2004, 05:58 PM	#1
merlinxi The Paranoid Cook Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 655 Rep Power: 0	Problems with computer all of a sudden... a lot... OUt of no where my sound on my computer does not work, and DirectX can not detect it. (I am using 6.1 Digital output on my MSI motherboard.) My video framerate is extremely slow. With 3d Mark 05 score went around 2000. (i have x800 xt). My normal score was 5800. Something is defintely wrong here, did my DirectX get corupted or something, cause re-installing drivers does not work. Help... Merlin __________________ 700 Watt Toughpower Cable Management Power supply -- Asus P55 LE Motherboard -- Intel Core i7 860 2.8GHZ Quad Core -- 6Gb Dominator Ram DD3 8 Latency Timings -- Windows 7 64bit -- Gigabyte GTX470 Superclocked Video Card -- 1.5 TB Hard drive, 1TB hard drive, 250GB Hard drive, and a partridge in a pear tree.

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Nov 3, 2004, 07:12 PM	Thread Starter #6
merlinxi The Paranoid Cook Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 655 Rep Power: 0	It's the overclocking. I have my p4 3.0 overlcoked to 3.20. And my sound deactivates. Does anyone have any idea why this happens? Once i put it down back to normal, it works fine. Beleive my pentium is way belowt he safe range, it doesn't get about 40 degrees celsius on load. And I heard peolple running my pentium on 3.6 at 70 degrees celsius. Why do I get all these damn problems??? NafÃ© __________________ 700 Watt Toughpower Cable Management Power supply -- Asus P55 LE Motherboard -- Intel Core i7 860 2.8GHZ Quad Core -- 6Gb Dominator Ram DD3 8 Latency Timings -- Windows 7 64bit -- Gigabyte GTX470 Superclocked Video Card -- 1.5 TB Hard drive, 1TB hard drive, 250GB Hard drive, and a partridge in a pear tree.

Nov 3, 2004, 07:26 PM	#7
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	if you are overclocking on FSB which I reckon you would be unless you have a semi unlocked CPU, its more than likely down to your ram not handling the FSB or your mobo crapping out. Are your rails ok? Need more system specification information, you have gave none.

Nov 3, 2004, 07:31 PM	Thread Starter #8
merlinxi The Paranoid Cook Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 655 Rep Power: 0	I have a Pentium 4 3.0E (800 FSB) Ghz Processor The MSI 6578 PCb Revision 2.0 motherboard. 1 Gig of Pc3200 Ram. Running WIndows XP sp2 __________________ 700 Watt Toughpower Cable Management Power supply -- Asus P55 LE Motherboard -- Intel Core i7 860 2.8GHZ Quad Core -- 6Gb Dominator Ram DD3 8 Latency Timings -- Windows 7 64bit -- Gigabyte GTX470 Superclocked Video Card -- 1.5 TB Hard drive, 1TB hard drive, 250GB Hard drive, and a partridge in a pear tree.

Nov 3, 2004, 07:33 PM	#9
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Its not the CPU thermal throttling as you are only at 40c..... have you tried relaxing the ram timings when you are overclocking? remember some DDR3200 wont hit much over 200/400 especially on stock voltage. did you measure your rails in the bios? 12v/5v? I dont have that motherboard but you could try raising the voltage from 1.5 to 1.55 if you have the option. you really need to start playing with timings. first thing get your rail readings.

Nov 3, 2004, 07:34 PM	Thread Starter #10
merlinxi The Paranoid Cook Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 655 Rep Power: 0	Rail readings as in the voltage at which the ram is running? __________________ 700 Watt Toughpower Cable Management Power supply -- Asus P55 LE Motherboard -- Intel Core i7 860 2.8GHZ Quad Core -- 6Gb Dominator Ram DD3 8 Latency Timings -- Windows 7 64bit -- Gigabyte GTX470 Superclocked Video Card -- 1.5 TB Hard drive, 1TB hard drive, 250GB Hard drive, and a partridge in a pear tree.

Nov 3, 2004, 09:17 PM	#12
Geminiwave I Have lovely Breasts Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In the closet... Posts: 5,395 Rep Power: 64	you know what else it could be? I dunno if this is true for onboard audio, but my soundcard torches when I overclock and it was because I didnt have PCI clockrate lock on. Maybe your lock isnt on either? Just a thought. Another idea may be that you should increase the PCI latency a bit. That generally helps when I'm overclocking and the sound goes dead. that being said, I have an AMD system and an ASUS board, so it is possible that none of this would apply to you. __________________

Nov 3, 2004, 11:53 PM	#13
Nacht ein Krieger Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Clemson Uni Posts: 3,127 Rep Power: 0	Sounds like an issue with the ram not being able to hit that speed to me. try putting the dram frequency down when you oc, and see if that makes a difference.

Nov 4, 2004, 12:24 AM	#14
Geminiwave I Have lovely Breasts Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In the closet... Posts: 5,395 Rep Power: 64	or the dram voltage up? __________________

Nov 4, 2004, 02:47 PM	Thread Starter #15
merlinxi The Paranoid Cook Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 655 Rep Power: 0	All the rail readings are normal. I got it to work, but still in the middle of playing music or a game, my sound will shut off. This is really quite annoying. It als happens even with the Pentium not overclocked, maybe I just have crappy ram. Merlinxi __________________ 700 Watt Toughpower Cable Management Power supply -- Asus P55 LE Motherboard -- Intel Core i7 860 2.8GHZ Quad Core -- 6Gb Dominator Ram DD3 8 Latency Timings -- Windows 7 64bit -- Gigabyte GTX470 Superclocked Video Card -- 1.5 TB Hard drive, 1TB hard drive, 250GB Hard drive, and a partridge in a pear tree.