Looking to buy a new monitor... please help!

Ev!L-aLphA · Nov 25, 2004, 05:55 AM

[color=#f0f0f0]Hey guys

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[color=#f0f0f0]Well i think i want to get a new monitor for my computer and sell this Env!sion EN-770e 17" CRT screen (which is worth 140$ retail and used about 80 =x).....[/color]

[color=#f0f0f0]I was at a mini lan party with my friends yesterday, and I noticed that all of their screens gives a sorta crisper and a nicer, brighter image (without crankin up gamma).[/color]

[color=#f0f0f0]my friends Sony SMD-HS73/B 17" monitor caught my eye, though while playing counter strike it looked sort of blurry while walking.... here is a pic of what it looked like (which to me it looked in real life a lot bigger than my 17" monitor 0-o)[/color]

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[color=#f0f0f0]I would like to get a LCD screen but people say that the quality isn't as good as a CRT screen.... [/color]

[color=#f0f0f0]but yea, im looking for a good quality monitor from a worthy company, good picture quality, and that is at least 19" or if possible 21" (for 1200x1600), and a if possible stylish too ...[/color]

[color=#f0f0f0]id prefer a flat LCD screen, but if I can get a better deal on a CRT screen that will also give me better quality or sharper image I will go for that....[/color]

[color=#f0f0f0]now on the price im not sure just make sure its not toooo high because im hoping I can get enough money at Christmas from relatives ect.. to get me a new screen...[/color]

[color=#f0f0f0]Evil![/color]

Razgriz · Nov 25, 2004, 05:56 AM

whats your budget?

Ev!L-aLphA · Nov 25, 2004, 05:59 AM

im thinking about 400-700 but i am really not sure ill have to see what i get at christmas... but for now i need a good idea of what kind of monitor i will get when i get the money

Razgriz · Nov 25, 2004, 06:02 AM

well, i am going to refer you too a site that prodigal posted a while back. You can get a Sony Triniton 21" CRT grade a monitors there for about $220 US.

http://www.azatek.com/

pr0digal jenius · Nov 25, 2004, 06:19 AM

Dell 2100FP = 20.1 inch LCD, retail's for between 7 and 800 and from what I hear, it's the best you can buy. I also highly reccomend the Samsung Syncmaster LCDs

Dark Lord · Nov 25, 2004, 06:29 AM

id go with the dell 2001fp like was suggested.

*sorry to thread jack*
i was looking around this evening and found i could get a 42" plasma with a bad display for about ~100. im going to call around and see how much its gonna cost me to get fixed, if reasonable i think ill have my self a nice plasma screen.
i would assume plasma's would work great with pc gameing but im not entirely sure. any one know?
*sorry to thread jack*

tastyweat · Nov 25, 2004, 05:48 PM

My personal preference would lean towards the 2005FPW... it's the widescreen 20.1" version of the (4x3) 2001FP

The 2005 also knocks the response time down to 12ms... so there's a possibility that it may wash some colours out... but to be fair... the newer samsung 12ms monitors are as good as their 16ms counterparts... so the 12ms dell could easily be very good... I just like the fact that it's widescreen... 1680x1050 Pixel resolution.

The 2001FP monitor is also a great choice... 16ms & 1600x1200 & 20.1"... probably what I will be getting as you can't get the 2005 in the UK... Allan (Zardon) has two of them and he raves about them.

Here's the 2001FP - http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/P...ctlisting.aspx

and here's the 2005FPW - http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/P...k=&refurbished=

as for the plasma 'another-user', they are ok for gaming... problem is the cheaper-end ones have a low resolution and normally do not have a DVI in and most don't even have a VGA in... so you would have to use composite... I've done big screen gaming on a cheap-ish plasma tv and it makes your eyes hurt after too long... it's much better to get a large tft than a cheap plasma... but if you can get it nice and cheap and you use it for a tv... then the novelty of gaming on it can be there from time to time without much harm

Ev!L-aLphA · Nov 25, 2004, 07:47 PM

ok im thinking that i might get the dell one but its a bit pricy =x but ill see what i can do...

please keep up with suggestons pplz

thanks

Judas · Nov 25, 2004, 09:25 PM

Save up a little money.. if you want to get the best image quality... get either that LCD dell or the Samsung SyncMaster 1100DF (22inch and runs 1600x1200@90+hz and actually DOES do 2048x1536@85hz because i've tested it myself)

the samsung 1100DF is by far the best CRT monitor i've touched yet, serpassing even my 900IFT i have which IMO, didn't think it would be possible...

Look around, the 1100 df is pretty good... i paid 650 canadian and after tax + the large 3 year warranty deal from the specific store.... you should bea ble to get it for easily 400-450 after tax from a retail store.. who knows how much cheaper over the net....

It'll greatly compliment your x800XT PE (droolz)

Ev!L-aLphA · Nov 26, 2004, 02:32 AM

EDIT-Never mind about the samsung i found a black version of it and it looks better heres the deal from newegg..
$459.00 i can save like 450$ instead of getting a LCD
CRT Type: 21" (20" viewable), DynaFlat CRT
Dot Pitch: 0.20mm horizontal
Max / Optimal resolution: 2048x1536 @ 75Hz / 1280x1024 @ 85Hz
Frequency / Bandwidth: fh: 30~121kHz; fv: 50~160Hz / 340MHz
Input Connectors: 15pin D-Sub, BNC x5
Features: OSD Lock/Unlock, Natural Color Software, Smart III screen treatment
Dimensions & Weight: 19.8" x 19.7" x 20" (WxHxD), 61.6 lbs
Manufacturer's Warranty / Phone No.: 3 year limited warranty on CRT, parts and labor / 800-726-7864

all of the reviews are exelent for this but im still not sure... i think im going to get this one but i still need to think about it cuz ive been wanting a LCD

do you guys think i should get a 19" since it would be a lot cheaper but i still wont be able to view 1200x1600??
please give advice

tomorrow's black friday (biggest sale day in america) so im going to go to compusa, frys, bestbuy and more places too look for screens.....

can u guys give me good settings for monitors??? like i dont know just like if i want a LCD monitor tell me what settings i should get like

178° horizontal/vertical viewing angles

800:1 contrast ratio; 250 nits brightness

Analog/digital interface

56-75Hz vertical frequency

30-81kHz (analog), 30-63kHz (digital) horizontal frequency
kind of thing....

please reply asap thanks

ReV smokey255 · Nov 26, 2004, 03:29 AM

get 19 inch

Judas · Nov 26, 2004, 04:53 AM

1100DF is the way to go if you can't afford to big boy expensive LCD's....

The monitor puts Triniton monitors to shame...

pr0digal jenius · Nov 26, 2004, 06:36 AM

i dunno bout that

trinitrons are hard to put to shame

but yes...syncmasters are exceedingly nice...and much CHEAPER then trinitrons...that's their main thing

Ev!L-aLphA · Nov 26, 2004, 06:42 AM

cool

im 99% sure im gonna get that samsung screen

its sounds like too much good stuff in 1 package w00t w00t

in a couple of days ill be able to end my 1280x1024 at 60hz missery :P

Judas · Nov 26, 2004, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius

i dunno bout that

trinitrons are hard to put to shame

but yes...syncmasters are exceedingly nice...and much CHEAPER then trinitrons...that's their main thing

hey, 900IFT vs any triniton i pit it against......... and the 1100DF was pretty impressive if not EXACTLY the same as my 900IFT...

Similare tech is being used in both monitors.... i knw that a 955 or any other 900 variant that isn't an IFT won't compare to a triniton.....

Ev!L-aLphA · Nov 26, 2004, 09:25 PM

Yayay i ordered a 1100df w00t it will be herein a couple of days

Judas · Nov 27, 2004, 01:28 AM

*droolz*

Nov 25, 2004, 05:55 AM	#1
Ev!L-aLphA \| n f e c t e D Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,111 Rep Power: 0	Looking to buy a new monitor... please help! [color=#f0f0f0]Hey guys [/color] [color=#f0f0f0]Well i think i want to get a new monitor for my computer and sell this Env!sion EN-770e 17" CRT screen (which is worth 140$ retail and used about 80 =x).....[/color] [color=#f0f0f0]I was at a mini lan party with my friends yesterday, and I noticed that all of their screens gives a sorta crisper and a nicer, brighter image (without crankin up gamma).[/color] [color=#f0f0f0]my friends Sony SMD-HS73/B 17" monitor caught my eye, though while playing counter strike it looked sort of blurry while walking.... here is a pic of what it looked like (which to me it looked in real life a lot bigger than my 17" monitor 0-o)[/color] [color=#f0f0f0][/color] [color=#f0f0f0]I would like to get a LCD screen but people say that the quality isn't as good as a CRT screen.... [/color] [color=#f0f0f0]but yea, im looking for a good quality monitor from a worthy company, good picture quality, and that is at least 19" or if possible 21" (for 1200x1600), and a if possible stylish too ...[/color] [color=#f0f0f0]id prefer a flat LCD screen, but if I can get a better deal on a CRT screen that will also give me better quality or sharper image I will go for that....[/color] [color=#f0f0f0]now on the price im not sure just make sure its not toooo high because im hoping I can get enough money at Christmas from relatives ect.. to get me a new screen...[/color] [color=#f0f0f0]Evil![/color] __________________ R.I.P 8/8/04 4/21/08 Last edited by Ev!L-aLphA; Nov 25, 2004 at 06:08 AM.

Nov 25, 2004, 05:59 AM	Thread Starter #3
Ev!L-aLphA \| n f e c t e D Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,111 Rep Power: 0	im thinking about 400-700 but i am really not sure ill have to see what i get at christmas... but for now i need a good idea of what kind of monitor i will get when i get the money __________________ R.I.P 8/8/04 4/21/08

Nov 25, 2004, 05:48 PM	#7
tastyweat Lurking Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The void Posts: 4,794 Rep Power: 75 System Specs	My personal preference would lean towards the 2005FPW... it's the widescreen 20.1" version of the (4x3) 2001FP The 2005 also knocks the response time down to 12ms... so there's a possibility that it may wash some colours out... but to be fair... the newer samsung 12ms monitors are as good as their 16ms counterparts... so the 12ms dell could easily be very good... I just like the fact that it's widescreen... 1680x1050 Pixel resolution. The 2001FP monitor is also a great choice... 16ms & 1600x1200 & 20.1"... probably what I will be getting as you can't get the 2005 in the UK... Allan (Zardon) has two of them and he raves about them. Here's the 2001FP - http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/P...ctlisting.aspx and here's the 2005FPW - http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/P...k=&refurbished= as for the plasma 'another-user', they are ok for gaming... problem is the cheaper-end ones have a low resolution and normally do not have a DVI in and most don't even have a VGA in... so you would have to use composite... I've done big screen gaming on a cheap-ish plasma tv and it makes your eyes hurt after too long... it's much better to get a large tft than a cheap plasma... but if you can get it nice and cheap and you use it for a tv... then the novelty of gaming on it can be there from time to time without much harm __________________

Nov 25, 2004, 07:47 PM	Thread Starter #8
Ev!L-aLphA \| n f e c t e D Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,111 Rep Power: 0	ok im thinking that i might get the dell one but its a bit pricy =x but ill see what i can do... please keep up with suggestons pplz thanks __________________ R.I.P 8/8/04 4/21/08

Nov 26, 2004, 02:32 AM	Thread Starter #10
Ev!L-aLphA \| n f e c t e D Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,111 Rep Power: 0	EDIT-Never mind about the samsung i found a black version of it and it looks better heres the deal from newegg.. $459.00 i can save like 450$ instead of getting a LCD CRT Type: 21" (20" viewable), DynaFlat CRT Dot Pitch: 0.20mm horizontal Max / Optimal resolution: 2048x1536 @ 75Hz / 1280x1024 @ 85Hz Frequency / Bandwidth: fh: 30~121kHz; fv: 50~160Hz / 340MHz Input Connectors: 15pin D-Sub, BNC x5 Features: OSD Lock/Unlock, Natural Color Software, Smart III screen treatment Dimensions & Weight: 19.8" x 19.7" x 20" (WxHxD), 61.6 lbs Manufacturer's Warranty / Phone No.: 3 year limited warranty on CRT, parts and labor / 800-726-7864 all of the reviews are exelent for this but im still not sure... i think im going to get this one but i still need to think about it cuz ive been wanting a LCD do you guys think i should get a 19" since it would be a lot cheaper but i still wont be able to view 1200x1600?? please give advice tomorrow's black friday (biggest sale day in america) so im going to go to compusa, frys, bestbuy and more places too look for screens..... can u guys give me good settings for monitors??? like i dont know just like if i want a LCD monitor tell me what settings i should get like 178° horizontal/vertical viewing angles 800:1 contrast ratio; 250 nits brightness Analog/digital interface 56-75Hz vertical frequency 30-81kHz (analog), 30-63kHz (digital) horizontal frequency kind of thing.... please reply asap thanks __________________ R.I.P 8/8/04 4/21/08 Last edited by Ev!L-aLphA; Nov 26, 2004 at 02:48 AM.

Nov 25, 2004, 05:56 AM	#2
Razgriz Intelligence? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: On the edge of insanity Posts: 1,183 Rep Power: 55	whats your budget?

Nov 25, 2004, 06:02 AM	#4
Razgriz Intelligence? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: On the edge of insanity Posts: 1,183 Rep Power: 55	well, i am going to refer you too a site that prodigal posted a while back. You can get a Sony Triniton 21" CRT grade a monitors there for about $220 US. http://www.azatek.com/

Nov 25, 2004, 06:19 AM	#5
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	Dell 2100FP = 20.1 inch LCD, retail's for between 7 and 800 and from what I hear, it's the best you can buy. I also highly reccomend the Samsung Syncmaster LCDs

Nov 25, 2004, 06:29 AM	#6
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 125 System Specs	id go with the dell 2001fp like was suggested. sorry to thread jack i was looking around this evening and found i could get a 42" plasma with a bad display for about ~100. im going to call around and see how much its gonna cost me to get fixed, if reasonable i think ill have my self a nice plasma screen. i would assume plasma's would work great with pc gameing but im not entirely sure. any one know? sorry to thread jack

Nov 26, 2004, 03:29 AM	#11
ReV smokey255 John Kerry of video cards Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 574 Rep Power: 0	get 19 inch

Nov 26, 2004, 06:36 AM	#13
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	i dunno bout that trinitrons are hard to put to shame but yes...syncmasters are exceedingly nice...and much CHEAPER then trinitrons...that's their main thing

Nov 26, 2004, 06:42 AM	Thread Starter #14
Ev!L-aLphA \| n f e c t e D Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,111 Rep Power: 0	cool im 99% sure im gonna get that samsung screen its sounds like too much good stuff in 1 package w00t w00t in a couple of days ill be able to end my 1280x1024 at 60hz missery :P __________________ R.I.P 8/8/04 4/21/08

Nov 26, 2004, 09:25 PM	Thread Starter #16
Ev!L-aLphA \| n f e c t e D Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,111 Rep Power: 0	Yayay i ordered a 1100df w00t it will be herein a couple of days __________________ R.I.P 8/8/04 4/21/08