HardwareHeaven.com

HardwareHeaven.com

Looking for the skin chooser?
 
 
  • Home

  • Hardware reviews

  • Articles

  • News

  • Tools

  • Gaming at HardwareHeaven

  • Forums

 

Go Back   HardwareHeaven.com > Forums > Hardware and Related Topics > Hardware Discussion & Support


Hardware Discussion & Support Discuss your computer - its components or ANY hardware, past/current/future you want, or ask our forum experts if you have a general problem with your hardware.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old Nov 26, 2004, 12:21 AM   #1
HardwareHeaven Senior Member
 
Randy P's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 489
Rep Power: 49
Randy P is just really niceRandy P is just really niceRandy P is just really niceRandy P is just really nice
System Specs

a little bios help please

If I install a new CPU should I flash the bios first?

I guess my concern is what will happen if the bios does not support the new chip? Can I just flash it after?

AND

do you think it's possible that a new processor will work on a board that may need flashing?
Randy P is offline   Reply With Quote


Old Nov 26, 2004, 03:38 AM   #2
Xtreme
 
Lowfat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can
Posts: 4,254
Rep Power: 101
Lowfat has a divinity and aura the likes we have never seenLowfat has a divinity and aura the likes we have never seenLowfat has a divinity and aura the likes we have never seenLowfat has a divinity and aura the likes we have never seenLowfat has a divinity and aura the likes we have never seenLowfat has a divinity and aura the likes we have never seenLowfat has a divinity and aura the likes we have never seenLowfat has a divinity and aura the likes we have never seenLowfat has a divinity and aura the likes we have never seenLowfat has a divinity and aura the likes we have never seenLowfat has a divinity and aura the likes we have never seen

you dont need to flash the bios, unless the motherboard didn't support the cpu @ the time but added it later on.

and i dont understand your second question.
__________________

Lowfat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 26, 2004, 09:06 PM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #3
HardwareHeaven Senior Member
 
Randy P's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 489
Rep Power: 49
Randy P is just really niceRandy P is just really niceRandy P is just really niceRandy P is just really nice
System Specs

ok, so I guess I have to flash the bios becasue my board didn't support the 3.4 but now does.

My second question was what will happen if I install the new cpu without flashing the bios first?
Randy P is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 27, 2004, 03:30 AM   #4
Caffeine Machine
 
MiDKnYtE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Hell is empty. All the devils are here.
Posts: 670
Rep Power: 0
MiDKnYtE is on a distinguished road

if the bios isn't updated, it either won't post at all or it will post but it will set your cpu at the wrong speed and/or voltage.
MiDKnYtE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 27, 2004, 02:00 PM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #5
HardwareHeaven Senior Member
 
Randy P's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 489
Rep Power: 49
Randy P is just really niceRandy P is just really niceRandy P is just really niceRandy P is just really nice
System Specs

I see so I should definitely update the bios first.

Is there any risk from going from an older bios directly to the newest??

It suggests to update in intervals...do I need to do this?
Randy P is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 27, 2004, 07:34 PM   #6
Obvious Closet Brony Pony
 
Judas's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: 100 miles from anywhere
Posts: 31,837
Rep Power: 247
Judas is godlike in his statusJudas is godlike in his statusJudas is godlike in his statusJudas is godlike in his statusJudas is godlike in his statusJudas is godlike in his statusJudas is godlike in his statusJudas is godlike in his statusJudas is godlike in his statusJudas is godlike in his statusJudas is godlike in his status
System Specs

Gold Member
usually.... not don't take my word for it... but USUALLY, if a cpu isn't supported in new motherboards.... it doesn't recognize it... it falls to fail safe settings.. low voltage... low Speed... low fsb and multiplyer.... making it safe to run on that cpu so you can set it up manually or to get into windows... download the latest bios version and install it... and apon reboot... it should automatically redetect..... But don't take my word on it (i've only had experience with various AMD motherboard in the last few years and every board has ran like that)
__________________
Quote:
I accidently my Reputation
Judas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 27, 2004, 08:35 PM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #7
HardwareHeaven Senior Member
 
Randy P's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 489
Rep Power: 49
Randy P is just really niceRandy P is just really niceRandy P is just really niceRandy P is just really nice
System Specs

OK so I should update the bios first. Now is there any danger to updating the bios without having the new cpu in? Lets say if I get the new CPU for xmas can I just go ahead and update my bios right now?

Bios update first or new cpu installation first?
Randy P is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 27, 2004, 09:07 PM   #8
Obvious Closet Brony Pony
 
Judas's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: 100 miles from anywhere
Posts: 31,837
Rep Power: 247
Judas is godlike in his statusJudas is godlike in his statusJudas is godlike in his statusJudas is godlike in his statusJudas is godlike in his statusJudas is godlike in his statusJudas is godlike in his statusJudas is godlike in his statusJudas is godlike in his statusJudas is godlike in his statusJudas is godlike in his status
System Specs

Gold Member
check to see IF you need the to flash your bios first.... pick the cpu you want.. and then check the manufacturers bios list to see if the cpu requires a new bios.... if it doesn't.. it usually best to not flash enless your having difficulties.... And it usually is BEST to flash before you pop in the new CPU IF it requires a flash
__________________
Quote:
I accidently my Reputation
Judas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 28, 2004, 04:19 PM   #9
Semper ubi sub ubi
 
Ubergrendle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Toronto
Posts: 702
Rep Power: 51
Ubergrendle is just really niceUbergrendle is just really niceUbergrendle is just really niceUbergrendle is just really niceUbergrendle is just really nice

good BIOS article

Although a bit dated, I rely upon this article to tweak my BIOS settings.

http://arstechnica.com/guide/building/bios/bios-1.html

General rule of thumb is: don't flash you BIOS if everything is working properly, OR inless the BIOS update specifically states substantial performance improvements will be noticed.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
__________________
Veteran of the PC Microchannel / EISA wars of the late 1980s.
Ubergrendle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 28, 2004, 11:12 PM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #10
HardwareHeaven Senior Member
 
Randy P's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 489
Rep Power: 49
Randy P is just really niceRandy P is just really niceRandy P is just really niceRandy P is just really nice
System Specs

great you guys. Well the gigabyte website says that I need Bios version FH to run a P4
3.4 ghz processor. SO I guess I have to update the bios. I am seriously not looking forward to doing it. It sounds like the easiest thing in the world to do...but is scary as hell!
Randy P is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 29, 2004, 12:53 AM   #11
Delete Me
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 14,648
Rep Power: 0
pr0digal jenius is a name known to allpr0digal jenius is a name known to allpr0digal jenius is a name known to allpr0digal jenius is a name known to allpr0digal jenius is a name known to allpr0digal jenius is a name known to all

it's easy, but stressful, yes


www.bootdisk.com has a good Dr.Dos flashing bootdisk to use
pr0digal jenius is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools