New power supply...

Sandok · Feb 28, 2005, 12:02 PM

Okay, I just more or less destroyed my PSU (a TT 480 purepower) and I was thinking of getting something better...

So here are my choices chosen from this site:

http://www.ldlc.ch/cat/140074.html

Not much choise I know but my only choice.

So I was looking at these PSUs... They seem nice and all 8if eve I've got a p4800-e deluxe so it's a 478 platform.)

Can you guys please suggest a good PSu from the site? Thx...

ToP3koms · Feb 28, 2005, 12:33 PM

If I had to choose between the brands that are listed I would have to go with Antec.My choice would be this Antec Neopower 480W,it's modular,is setup for BTX and I believe it has dual 12v rails.I do not know what pricerange you looking for but of those brands I would likely stick with Antec.

Sandok · Feb 28, 2005, 12:41 PM

ya but I need somethign which is sorta silent... Cuz my last PSU was sorta loud and that was really annoying

But anywys, that one sseems nice... The bluestorm from fortron looked nice with the new simple stuff for LG755 system but I don't know if it's backwards compatible...

Matth · Feb 28, 2005, 04:56 PM

http://www.ldlc.ch/fiche/PB00022566.html Zalman are a name in quietness, if not in power supplies - but is this 400W unit enough .. I have a feeling tomshardware reviewed this one

http://www.ldlc.ch/fiche/PB00025571.html - Appears to be another low noise effort

http://www.ldlc.ch/fiche/PB00021879.html - And the "noisetaker" from Enermax - looks like this is as high as the noistaker goes, but is it really quiet

http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/20030609/index.html 13 PSU's compared
Including the Zalman - the 15A rating at 12v is low for a well tuned 400W though!

http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/20040122/index.html - Another test of 15

http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/20021021/index.html - And an older test of 21

CDsDontBurn · Feb 28, 2005, 05:25 PM

I would choose the antec from the site you provided. Enermax does make a 485w and a 600w noisetaker. I had one in my system and it was really cool. The noisetaker series enermax PSUs will keep the fan going for about 30 seconds after the system has shut down to help cool down the PSU and the computer

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Lowfat · Mar 1, 2005, 03:58 AM

how'd you destroy your PSU? are you the person that was planning on changing the fans or something?

Sandok · Mar 1, 2005, 07:05 AM

yes that is me but let's ignore that please...

Anyways, those are some really good links, thx guys! will check em as soon as I'm back home!

Matth · Mar 1, 2005, 04:53 PM

Another thing, if you have a low noise, thermo-fan PSU, be sure to help it out with some low noise case fans (some PSU's even have 12v fan connectors which follow the PSU fan control).

If you expect the PSU to do all the extraction, then it will be running hotter and louder than if you help it with an intake and extract fan pair.

~~Vasot~~ · Mar 1, 2005, 05:05 PM

-Zalman has nice and quiet PSU but it is a little WEAK in Maximum power for today standards(400W Maximum)

I would advice a Antec 480W or 550W (or OCZ f you can find one)

Soilwork · Mar 1, 2005, 05:08 PM

antec truecontrol 550w is cool cause you can control the fanspeeds and voltages

Lowfat · Mar 1, 2005, 05:19 PM

i was planning on doing the same thing with mine....

Sandok · Mar 1, 2005, 05:28 PM

well my budget isn't huge but this is what i've come up with as choices...

ATX 2.0 (it's compatible with older mobos like mine right?) http://www.ldlc.ch/fiche/PB00026448.html

An antec... http://www.ldlc.ch/fiche/PB00016158.html

This one seems sorta cool...
http://www.ldlc.ch/fiche/PB00025991.html

A high quality company: http://www.ldlc.ch/fiche/PB00025847.html

And the zalman but not that that powerful.

The thing is the fortron is nice cuz it's sleeved and ATX thingy 2 and all but I dunno if it's woth it... And 500 watts and cheaper than the other...?

BWX · Mar 1, 2005, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soilwork

antec truecontrol 550w is cool cause you can control the fanspeeds and voltages

I have that PSU and it is awesome.

http://www.ldlc.ch/fiche/PB00019733.html

Buy it and you will not be disappointed.

Sandok · Mar 1, 2005, 06:03 PM

i'd love that but WAY outta my cash. I've got about 150chf which is about 90euro... Not much I know but i'm bankrupt

Randy P · Mar 1, 2005, 09:20 PM

Got my Enermax today very happy

Do you wanna know what I hate though?
Those DAMN molex connectors...they are so damn hard to get apart sometimes! One slip and oops I just cracked a 1000 dollar piece of plastic!!
Anyway just had to say that.

Sandok · Mar 2, 2005, 01:09 PM

lol cool...

So anyone got a clue which one I should pick outta the final 4 i have the money to buy?

BWX · Mar 2, 2005, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandok

lol cool...

So anyone got a clue which one I should pick outta the final 4 i have the money to buy?

Can you get this?
http://www.ldlc.ch/fiche/PB00016158.html

If so- get it!

Sandok · Mar 2, 2005, 02:20 PM

Yeah I can get that... Seems nice

Is it quite? That's sorta important for me too

BWX · Mar 2, 2005, 02:28 PM

Out of the PSU's on that page within your price range, that is the one I would get. It is a very nice PSU, high quality. Will handle most any system.

Sandok · Mar 2, 2005, 07:02 PM

Okay I just ordered the PSU you suggested BMX... Hope it's as good as you claim! Thx guys!

BWX · Mar 2, 2005, 10:22 PM

It is a quality PSU... and had done well in all reviews I have seen. What are the system specs of the machine it will be running in?

Sandok · Mar 3, 2005, 07:20 AM

Well it's not a killer system but I'm soon gonna be upgradin to more hardcore stuff so I wnt some power...

ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe
3 GHZ Northwood oced to 3.3
2048 Ram 1:1 (so oced 10%)
200giga 7200 RPM HD drive
1 DVD reader x16
1 DVD writer x4
3 120mm Fans with LEDs
2 80mm Fans with LEDs
1 Neon
3 Lazer LEDs
9800 Pro with VGA Silencer rev. 3
Audigy 2

Don't think I'm missing anything. It's not extremely high end but I'm thinking of getting a new AGP vid card soon. Waiting for something apart from the X850XTs and 6800ultras... So waiting and waiting.

BWX · Mar 3, 2005, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandok

Well it's not a killer system but I'm soon gonna be upgradin to more hardcore stuff so I wnt some power...

ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe
3 GHZ Northwood oced to 3.3
2048 Ram 1:1 (so oced 10%)
200giga 7200 RPM HD drive
1 DVD reader x16
1 DVD writer x4
3 120mm Fans with LEDs
2 80mm Fans with LEDs
1 Neon
3 Lazer LEDs
9800 Pro with VGA Silencer rev. 3
Audigy 2

Don't think I'm missing anything. It's not extremely high end but I'm thinking of getting a new AGP vid card soon. Waiting for something apart from the X850XTs and 6800ultras... So waiting and waiting.

It will run that just fine, and with that PSU I bet you could OC much higher than with a generic PSU.

Sandok · Mar 3, 2005, 01:05 PM

My PSU wasn't generic but it was just very cheap in the end, even though I paid alot for it

Thermaltake purepwoer which is supposed to be quite... Well not my thing!

BWX · Mar 3, 2005, 03:35 PM

Yeah the Antec will be strong compared to that. For the price you did well.

Sandok · Mar 9, 2005, 07:39 PM

Well the results aren't here to back up your word BMX...

My voltages are way lower!

11.7ish for 12 instead of 11.9ish
3.2ish instead of 3.3+ always
CPU core volatage fluctates more
4.9ish isntead of 5+ always!!!

PS: Those are IDLE voltages... The good thing is that under load they don't change an iota but still... I'm running prime 95. Already been 1 hour and it's fine

Could it just be that the mobo sensor isn't too good?

Sandok · Mar 10, 2005, 01:11 AM

Okay, I have just been working my PC up and completed 4 hours non stop of Prime95. And my voltages are the follwing:

11.70
4.9
3.2
1.5-1.6

What does this mean? I could could complete this grueling test... And the voltages are that low...? Please help!

El Kapitano · Mar 10, 2005, 07:12 AM

Sandok - don't take much notice of the mb voltage readings (or temps for that matter) they're out by up to 10%.

Also +/- 5% of the rated voltage is within the ATX specifications. so :-

12V - 5% (.6V) = 11.4V Minimum
5V - 5% (.25V) = 4.75V Minimum
3.3V - 5% (0.165V) = 3.135V Minimum

As you can see if your readings are anywhere near they are within ATX specs.

You're better off measuring voltages under load with a decent Multimeter to gain a true picture of your PSU rails.

BWX · Mar 10, 2005, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandok

Okay, I have just been working my PC up and completed 4 hours non stop of Prime95. And my voltages are the follwing:

11.70
4.9
3.2
1.5-1.6

What does this mean? I could could complete this grueling test... And the voltages are that low...? Please help!

Check witha multimeter- mine at
12.01
5.01
3.31
pretty much always. +/- 0.02v

My mobo reads:

11.86
4.92
3.17
:-/

So multimeter is only way to check- I completely ignore mobo readings.
If you don't have one, a multimeter is like 10 bucks.

Sandok · Mar 10, 2005, 02:32 PM

I know it's well in the specs but the voltages dropped from what I had before and that ain't cool. But the temps did drop and that IS cool

Anyways, Im gonna borrow, find or buy a multimeter and check the volts... Will need your help for that so I'll be in touch when I get my multimeter

Feb 28, 2005, 12:02 PM	#1
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	New power supply... Okay, I just more or less destroyed my PSU (a TT 480 purepower) and I was thinking of getting something better... So here are my choices chosen from this site: http://www.ldlc.ch/cat/140074.html Not much choise I know but my only choice. So I was looking at these PSUs... They seem nice and all 8if eve I've got a p4800-e deluxe so it's a 478 platform.) Can you guys please suggest a good PSu from the site? Thx...

Feb 28, 2005, 12:33 PM	#2
ToP3koms Respect Human Rights Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: MD. US Posts: 149 Rep Power: 0	If I had to choose between the brands that are listed I would have to go with Antec.My choice would be this Antec Neopower 480W,it's modular,is setup for BTX and I believe it has dual 12v rails.I do not know what pricerange you looking for but of those brands I would likely stick with Antec. __________________ [color=DeepSkyBlue]_____________________________ Asus A8N-SLI Premium/Athlon64 X2 4800+ 2Gb OCZ Platnium Edition PC3200 (2,3,2,5) 2 BFG 7800GTX /Creative X-Fi Western Digital 160Gb SATA II HD /Lite-On 16X DVD-RW Pc Power & Cooling Turbo Cool 510/ WinXP Pro Sp2 [/color]

Feb 28, 2005, 05:25 PM	#5
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	I would choose the antec from the site you provided. Enermax does make a 485w and a 600w noisetaker. I had one in my system and it was really cool. The noisetaker series enermax PSUs will keep the fan going for about 30 seconds after the system has shut down to help cool down the PSU and the computer . __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Mar 1, 2005, 03:58 AM	#6
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,254 Rep Power: 101	how'd you destroy your PSU? are you the person that was planning on changing the fans or something? __________________

Mar 1, 2005, 05:05 PM	#9
~~Vasot~~ Banned Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: GREECE Posts: 369 Rep Power: 0	-Zalman has nice and quiet PSU but it is a little WEAK in Maximum power for today standards(400W Maximum) I would advice a Antec 480W or 550W (or OCZ f you can find one) Last edited by Vasot; Mar 1, 2005 at 05:19 PM.

Feb 28, 2005, 12:41 PM	Thread Starter #3
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	ya but I need somethign which is sorta silent... Cuz my last PSU was sorta loud and that was really annoying But anywys, that one sseems nice... The bluestorm from fortron looked nice with the new simple stuff for LG755 system but I don't know if it's backwards compatible...

Feb 28, 2005, 04:56 PM	#4
Matth Flash Banner Hater Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: UK Posts: 3,426 Rep Power: 93 System Specs	http://www.ldlc.ch/fiche/PB00022566.html Zalman are a name in quietness, if not in power supplies - but is this 400W unit enough .. I have a feeling tomshardware reviewed this one http://www.ldlc.ch/fiche/PB00025571.html - Appears to be another low noise effort http://www.ldlc.ch/fiche/PB00021879.html - And the "noisetaker" from Enermax - looks like this is as high as the noistaker goes, but is it really quiet http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/20030609/index.html 13 PSU's compared Including the Zalman - the 15A rating at 12v is low for a well tuned 400W though! http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/20040122/index.html - Another test of 15 http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/20021021/index.html - And an older test of 21

Mar 1, 2005, 07:05 AM	Thread Starter #7
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	yes that is me but let's ignore that please... Anyways, those are some really good links, thx guys! will check em as soon as I'm back home!

Mar 1, 2005, 04:53 PM	#8
Matth Flash Banner Hater Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: UK Posts: 3,426 Rep Power: 93 System Specs	Another thing, if you have a low noise, thermo-fan PSU, be sure to help it out with some low noise case fans (some PSU's even have 12v fan connectors which follow the PSU fan control). If you expect the PSU to do all the extraction, then it will be running hotter and louder than if you help it with an intake and extract fan pair.

Mar 1, 2005, 05:08 PM	#10
Soilwork A virus with shoes Join Date: May 2004 Location: Johannesburg, South Africa Posts: 236 Rep Power: 0	antec truecontrol 550w is cool cause you can control the fanspeeds and voltages __________________

Mar 1, 2005, 05:19 PM	#11
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,254 Rep Power: 101	i was planning on doing the same thing with mine.... __________________

Mar 1, 2005, 05:28 PM	Thread Starter #12
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	well my budget isn't huge but this is what i've come up with as choices... ATX 2.0 (it's compatible with older mobos like mine right?) http://www.ldlc.ch/fiche/PB00026448.html An antec... http://www.ldlc.ch/fiche/PB00016158.html This one seems sorta cool... http://www.ldlc.ch/fiche/PB00025991.html A high quality company: http://www.ldlc.ch/fiche/PB00025847.html And the zalman but not that that powerful. The thing is the fortron is nice cuz it's sleeved and ATX thingy 2 and all but I dunno if it's woth it... And 500 watts and cheaper than the other...?

Mar 1, 2005, 06:03 PM	Thread Starter #14
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	i'd love that but WAY outta my cash. I've got about 150chf which is about 90euro... Not much I know but i'm bankrupt

Mar 1, 2005, 09:20 PM	#15
Randy P HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 489 Rep Power: 49 System Specs	Got my Enermax today very happy Do you wanna know what I hate though? Those DAMN molex connectors...they are so damn hard to get apart sometimes! One slip and oops I just cracked a 1000 dollar piece of plastic!! Anyway just had to say that.

Mar 2, 2005, 01:09 PM	Thread Starter #16
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	lol cool... So anyone got a clue which one I should pick outta the final 4 i have the money to buy?

Mar 2, 2005, 02:20 PM	Thread Starter #18
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	Yeah I can get that... Seems nice Is it quite? That's sorta important for me too Last edited by sandok; Mar 2, 2005 at 02:37 PM.

Mar 2, 2005, 02:28 PM	#19
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	Out of the PSU's on that page within your price range, that is the one I would get. It is a very nice PSU, high quality. Will handle most any system. __________________

Mar 2, 2005, 07:02 PM	Thread Starter #20
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	Okay I just ordered the PSU you suggested BMX... Hope it's as good as you claim! Thx guys!

Mar 2, 2005, 10:22 PM	#21
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	It is a quality PSU... and had done well in all reviews I have seen. What are the system specs of the machine it will be running in? __________________

Mar 3, 2005, 07:20 AM	Thread Starter #22
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	Well it's not a killer system but I'm soon gonna be upgradin to more hardcore stuff so I wnt some power... ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe 3 GHZ Northwood oced to 3.3 2048 Ram 1:1 (so oced 10%) 200giga 7200 RPM HD drive 1 DVD reader x16 1 DVD writer x4 3 120mm Fans with LEDs 2 80mm Fans with LEDs 1 Neon 3 Lazer LEDs 9800 Pro with VGA Silencer rev. 3 Audigy 2 Don't think I'm missing anything. It's not extremely high end but I'm thinking of getting a new AGP vid card soon. Waiting for something apart from the X850XTs and 6800ultras... So waiting and waiting.

Mar 3, 2005, 01:05 PM	Thread Starter #24
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	My PSU wasn't generic but it was just very cheap in the end, even though I paid alot for it Thermaltake purepwoer which is supposed to be quite... Well not my thing!

Mar 3, 2005, 03:35 PM	#25
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	Yeah the Antec will be strong compared to that. For the price you did well. __________________

Mar 9, 2005, 07:39 PM	Thread Starter #26
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	Well the results aren't here to back up your word BMX... My voltages are way lower! 11.7ish for 12 instead of 11.9ish 3.2ish instead of 3.3+ always CPU core volatage fluctates more 4.9ish isntead of 5+ always!!! PS: Those are IDLE voltages... The good thing is that under load they don't change an iota but still... I'm running prime 95. Already been 1 hour and it's fine Could it just be that the mobo sensor isn't too good? Last edited by sandok; Mar 9, 2005 at 09:00 PM.

Mar 10, 2005, 01:11 AM	Thread Starter #27
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	Okay, I have just been working my PC up and completed 4 hours non stop of Prime95. And my voltages are the follwing: 11.70 4.9 3.2 1.5-1.6 What does this mean? I could could complete this grueling test... And the voltages are that low...? Please help!

Mar 10, 2005, 07:12 AM	#28
El Kapitano Most of the 7 dwarfs in 1 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rochdale, Lancashire Posts: 947 Rep Power: 0	Sandok - don't take much notice of the mb voltage readings (or temps for that matter) they're out by up to 10%. Also +/- 5% of the rated voltage is within the ATX specifications. so :- 12V - 5% (.6V) = 11.4V Minimum 5V - 5% (.25V) = 4.75V Minimum 3.3V - 5% (0.165V) = 3.135V Minimum As you can see if your readings are anywhere near they are within ATX specs. You're better off measuring voltages under load with a decent Multimeter to gain a true picture of your PSU rails.

Mar 10, 2005, 02:32 PM	Thread Starter #30
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	I know it's well in the specs but the voltages dropped from what I had before and that ain't cool. But the temps did drop and that IS cool Anyways, Im gonna borrow, find or buy a multimeter and check the volts... Will need your help for that so I'll be in touch when I get my multimeter