Kingston HyperX Series Pc3200 - 512(x2) Low latecy

merlinxi · Mar 9, 2005, 08:16 PM

Hi before I go and crack this ram in half, after paying 250.00 for it. Help me. I got Kingston HyperX seris pc3200. This ram says it is capable of doing CAS 2 2 2 5. When I put those setting in my bios, Windows XP eithier A: Freezes, or B: Just goes blue screen as soon as boot up happens. Now why is this happening? Why am I forced to put it on 2 4 4 5? Here are my specs:

Pentium 4 3.0E GHZ 1MB Cache
Pc3200 Ram HYPERX Kingston
X800 XT Video card, with latest drivers
600 WATT power supply
MSI MS-6758 Neo FISR 2.

So what could be the problem, I did not touch any voltage settings, I did not overclock, I MADE SURE nothing was overclocked. All i did was change the latency settings, so what could be the problem?? PEBKAC??!!

merlinxi · Mar 30, 2005, 04:16 AM

Help?

Nacht · Mar 30, 2005, 05:51 AM

IDK....my memory is funky too.

it will run 2-3-2-5 barely (which it's speced at)...but if i overclock the proc, and even if im running the memory slower to keep it in 1:1, it wont hit 2-3-2-5. i think its set at like 2.5 cas now

MitchRapp · Mar 30, 2005, 05:12 PM

same here
my ram's SPD is 3-3-3-8 2T but the recommended Corsair settings is 2.5-3-3-6 1T
but if I put that my WIndows gives me the BSOD every few minutes/seconds ....
it's most likely the CAS latency that's messing with your stuff dude .. bump it up to 2.5 or 3.0

merlinxi · Mar 30, 2005, 07:41 PM

Well it sort of annoys me off that I paid for this ram and it doesn't perform as it should.

>GSXR<mrbusa · Mar 30, 2005, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merlinxi

Hi before I go and crack this ram in half, after paying 250.00 for it. Help me. I got Kingston HyperX seris pc3200. This ram says it is capable of doing CAS 2 2 2 5. When I put those setting in my bios, Windows XP eithier A: Freezes, or B: Just goes blue screen as soon as boot up happens. Now why is this happening? Why am I forced to put it on 2 4 4 5? Here are my specs:

Pentium 4 3.0E GHZ 1MB Cache
Pc3200 Ram HYPERX Kingston
X800 XT Video card, with latest drivers
600 WATT power supply
MSI MS-6758 Neo FISR 2.

So what could be the problem, I did not touch any voltage settings, I did not overclock, I MADE SURE nothing was overclocked. All i did was change the latency settings, so what could be the problem?? PEBKAC??!!

i had this same problem when i got my hyperx memory.i was getting errors in memtest and microsoft memory analizer and i was getting crappy throughput.so i called kingston tech support and they said to up the voltage to 2.75 or 2.8 if you can.i cant do 2.8 on my mobo,i can do 2.85 or 2.75,so i opted for 2.75.set my timeings to 2-2-2-5-8 and what do ya know ,i got no more errors and throughput was great.that was with two sticks of 256mb on the older version,the model number dont have the a at the end.then i got another two sticks and the model number had the a at the end.i then had to losen the timings per my sig but still run great and there isnt any noticable performane decrease.they are oced to 436mhz and run great.if i dont oc then i can do the 2-2-2-5-8 that the specs say.

Logla · Mar 30, 2005, 08:06 PM

I was just about to suggest 2.8v when I read your post so I would try to bump the volts up 0.1v at a time and see if you can find a sweetspot. You may also find that you dont need to change the voltage when overclocking.

merlinxi · Apr 3, 2005, 06:36 AM

Oh yeah I running the voltage now at 2.8, and settings of 2-2-2-5-4, and it's working PERFECTLY. Hallelujah, THANK YOU. I didn't think the Voltage made a difference.

>GSXR<mrbusa · Apr 3, 2005, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merlinxi

Oh yeah I running the voltage now at 2.8, and settings of 2-2-2-5-4, and it's working PERFECTLY. Hallelujah, THANK YOU. I didn't think the Voltage made a difference.

no problem
kingston said it was because most mobos are undervolting everything nowadays????

FearTheTerp · Apr 4, 2005, 03:13 AM

So the DDR voltage on the motherboard should match the voltage on the Ram? My motherboard's ddr voltage is 2.5, should i raise it 4% for my corsair xms?

>GSXR<mrbusa · Apr 4, 2005, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FearTheTerp

So the DDR voltage on the motherboard should match the voltage on the Ram? My motherboard's ddr voltage is 2.5, should i raise it 4% for my corsair xms?

your ddr voltage setting in your mobo bios should be as close as possible to your rams rated voltage.if you have problems like we had with this kingston ram then either raise it in the smallest increment one setting and test for stability or maybe your mobo is overvolting and you will have to lower it.i guess it would be on a circumstantial basis.

FearTheTerp · Apr 4, 2005, 04:40 AM

My corsair XMS's rated voltage is 2.6 so 4% would be perfect. And I am having stability problems with the computer, I have to underclock to get games to work perfectly or I get memory errors.

>GSXR<mrbusa · Apr 4, 2005, 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FearTheTerp

My corsair XMS's rated voltage is 2.6 so 4% would be perfect. And I am having stability problems with the computer, I have to underclock to get games to work perfectly or I get memory errors.

sounds to me like a memory timing issue or voltage issue.it would definitly not hurt your corsair to go maybe 2.65 or even 2.7.it depends on your mobo.are you sure your psu is keeping up with your system on all rails?

P:S: with that type of overclock on that celeron then you either have to run some really lose timings or set your divider to 5:4 if you have that capability on your mobo.the voltage increase might solve the stabilty problem though.

FearTheTerp · Apr 4, 2005, 04:49 AM

I doubt it, I'm getting voltage errors here and there. I'm using the 500w my case came with, I should get a new one soon. And I can't set the Cpu-Ram ratio on this piece of crap mobo. The celeron is at 2.8 now

couldn't get anything stable any higher.

merlinxi · Apr 11, 2005, 09:36 PM

What is a good memory tester program?

>GSXR<mrbusa · Apr 11, 2005, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merlinxi

What is a good memory tester program?

http://www.memtest.org/

this is the best out there.later

Falkentyne · Apr 12, 2005, 12:46 PM

Use memtest86 or memtest 1.55+ (they are pretty much the same program, 1.55+ has been modified a bit) to test for basic stability-- pay close attention to test#5 (the most important test, loop test 5 if you need to), and tests 6 and 8 are also important.

Test #5 usually determines if you have insufficient voltage; test #6 has been said to test chipset stability; other tests will usually give errors if the ram is so unstable that it would trash your HD just trying to load windows.

Your goal is to be 100% memtest stable, before you try any loading of windows at all.
Once you are memtest stable, you should be able to load windows without having the registry totally corrupted (if this happens and if you are unlucky, safe mode wont work anymore--and you will have to use the boot CD, recovery console, and use some good old DOS commands to manually copy the initial registry (the one when you first installed windows is saved someplace), over the trashed registry files (there are either 5 or 6), after first deleting the trash files, then booting from this rescue registry, giving yourself access permissions for the hidden folder "System volume information", and searching for the most recent "system restore" registry backup you can find, and then manually copying the files to a temp folder, and going BACK to recovery console and doing another rename and copy -.-

(if you want more information, go here :
http://www.digitalwebcast.com/articl...le.jsp?id=8658 )
Anyway, back on topic: your goal is to be able to boot windows without worrying about trashed data, then test from windows with 16M superPi, or Prime95 torture tests.

(There is also a windows memtest).

BTW, many RAM these days need 2.8v for stability @ stock, depending on your motherboard. Some mobos will do just fine at 2.6v (2.5v is just too low), others will want 2.8v--and their 2.8v is often "other" manufacturer's 2.7v.

Mar 9, 2005, 08:16 PM	#1
merlinxi The Paranoid Cook Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 655 Rep Power: 0	Kingston HyperX Series Pc3200 - 512(x2) Low latecy HELP Hi before I go and crack this ram in half, after paying 250.00 for it. Help me. I got Kingston HyperX seris pc3200. This ram says it is capable of doing CAS 2 2 2 5. When I put those setting in my bios, Windows XP eithier A: Freezes, or B: Just goes blue screen as soon as boot up happens. Now why is this happening? Why am I forced to put it on 2 4 4 5? Here are my specs: Pentium 4 3.0E GHZ 1MB Cache Pc3200 Ram HYPERX Kingston X800 XT Video card, with latest drivers 600 WATT power supply MSI MS-6758 Neo FISR 2. So what could be the problem, I did not touch any voltage settings, I did not overclock, I MADE SURE nothing was overclocked. All i did was change the latency settings, so what could be the problem?? PEBKAC??!! __________________ 700 Watt Toughpower Cable Management Power supply -- Asus P55 LE Motherboard -- Intel Core i7 860 2.8GHZ Quad Core -- 6Gb Dominator Ram DD3 8 Latency Timings -- Windows 7 64bit -- Gigabyte GTX470 Superclocked Video Card -- 1.5 TB Hard drive, 1TB hard drive, 250GB Hard drive, and a partridge in a pear tree. Last edited by merlinxi; Mar 10, 2005 at 12:23 AM.

Mar 30, 2005, 04:16 AM	Thread Starter #2
merlinxi The Paranoid Cook Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 655 Rep Power: 0	Help? __________________ 700 Watt Toughpower Cable Management Power supply -- Asus P55 LE Motherboard -- Intel Core i7 860 2.8GHZ Quad Core -- 6Gb Dominator Ram DD3 8 Latency Timings -- Windows 7 64bit -- Gigabyte GTX470 Superclocked Video Card -- 1.5 TB Hard drive, 1TB hard drive, 250GB Hard drive, and a partridge in a pear tree.

Mar 30, 2005, 07:41 PM	Thread Starter #5
merlinxi The Paranoid Cook Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 655 Rep Power: 0	Well it sort of annoys me off that I paid for this ram and it doesn't perform as it should. __________________ 700 Watt Toughpower Cable Management Power supply -- Asus P55 LE Motherboard -- Intel Core i7 860 2.8GHZ Quad Core -- 6Gb Dominator Ram DD3 8 Latency Timings -- Windows 7 64bit -- Gigabyte GTX470 Superclocked Video Card -- 1.5 TB Hard drive, 1TB hard drive, 250GB Hard drive, and a partridge in a pear tree.

Apr 3, 2005, 06:36 AM	Thread Starter #8
merlinxi The Paranoid Cook Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 655 Rep Power: 0	Oh yeah I running the voltage now at 2.8, and settings of 2-2-2-5-4, and it's working PERFECTLY. Hallelujah, THANK YOU. I didn't think the Voltage made a difference. __________________ 700 Watt Toughpower Cable Management Power supply -- Asus P55 LE Motherboard -- Intel Core i7 860 2.8GHZ Quad Core -- 6Gb Dominator Ram DD3 8 Latency Timings -- Windows 7 64bit -- Gigabyte GTX470 Superclocked Video Card -- 1.5 TB Hard drive, 1TB hard drive, 250GB Hard drive, and a partridge in a pear tree.

Apr 4, 2005, 03:13 AM	#10
FearTheTerp DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Pacific Grove, California Posts: 358 Rep Power: 0	So the DDR voltage on the motherboard should match the voltage on the Ram? My motherboard's ddr voltage is 2.5, should i raise it 4% for my corsair xms? __________________ System specs Motherboard:Biostar M7NCD Pro Cpu:AMD XP 2600+ Throughbred B @ 2340 195x12 Memory:2x Corsair CMX512-3200c2PT @ 195 mHz 2-3-3-10 Dual channel Graphics Card: Ati Radeon 9800 Pro All-In-Wonder w/Vga Silencer Rev 3 Antec SL-350

Mar 30, 2005, 05:51 AM	#3
Nacht ein Krieger Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Clemson Uni Posts: 3,127 Rep Power: 0	IDK....my memory is funky too. it will run 2-3-2-5 barely (which it's speced at)...but if i overclock the proc, and even if im running the memory slower to keep it in 1:1, it wont hit 2-3-2-5. i think its set at like 2.5 cas now

Mar 30, 2005, 05:12 PM	#4
MitchRapp a.k.a. pepiman Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 998 Rep Power: 49 System Specs	same here my ram's SPD is 3-3-3-8 2T but the recommended Corsair settings is 2.5-3-3-6 1T but if I put that my WIndows gives me the BSOD every few minutes/seconds .... it's most likely the CAS latency that's messing with your stuff dude .. bump it up to 2.5 or 3.0

Mar 30, 2005, 08:06 PM	#7
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 62	I was just about to suggest 2.8v when I read your post so I would try to bump the volts up 0.1v at a time and see if you can find a sweetspot. You may also find that you dont need to change the voltage when overclocking.

Apr 4, 2005, 04:40 AM	#12
FearTheTerp DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Pacific Grove, California Posts: 358 Rep Power: 0	My corsair XMS's rated voltage is 2.6 so 4% would be perfect. And I am having stability problems with the computer, I have to underclock to get games to work perfectly or I get memory errors. __________________ System specs Motherboard:Biostar M7NCD Pro Cpu:AMD XP 2600+ Throughbred B @ 2340 195x12 Memory:2x Corsair CMX512-3200c2PT @ 195 mHz 2-3-3-10 Dual channel Graphics Card: Ati Radeon 9800 Pro All-In-Wonder w/Vga Silencer Rev 3 Antec SL-350

Apr 4, 2005, 04:49 AM	#14
FearTheTerp DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Pacific Grove, California Posts: 358 Rep Power: 0	I doubt it, I'm getting voltage errors here and there. I'm using the 500w my case came with, I should get a new one soon. And I can't set the Cpu-Ram ratio on this piece of crap mobo. The celeron is at 2.8 now couldn't get anything stable any higher. __________________ System specs Motherboard:Biostar M7NCD Pro Cpu:AMD XP 2600+ Throughbred B @ 2340 195x12 Memory:2x Corsair CMX512-3200c2PT @ 195 mHz 2-3-3-10 Dual channel Graphics Card: Ati Radeon 9800 Pro All-In-Wonder w/Vga Silencer Rev 3 Antec SL-350

Apr 11, 2005, 09:36 PM	Thread Starter #15
merlinxi The Paranoid Cook Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 655 Rep Power: 0	What is a good memory tester program? __________________ 700 Watt Toughpower Cable Management Power supply -- Asus P55 LE Motherboard -- Intel Core i7 860 2.8GHZ Quad Core -- 6Gb Dominator Ram DD3 8 Latency Timings -- Windows 7 64bit -- Gigabyte GTX470 Superclocked Video Card -- 1.5 TB Hard drive, 1TB hard drive, 250GB Hard drive, and a partridge in a pear tree.

Apr 12, 2005, 12:46 PM	#17
Falkentyne DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	Use memtest86 or memtest 1.55+ (they are pretty much the same program, 1.55+ has been modified a bit) to test for basic stability-- pay close attention to test#5 (the most important test, loop test 5 if you need to), and tests 6 and 8 are also important. Test #5 usually determines if you have insufficient voltage; test #6 has been said to test chipset stability; other tests will usually give errors if the ram is so unstable that it would trash your HD just trying to load windows. Your goal is to be 100% memtest stable, before you try any loading of windows at all. Once you are memtest stable, you should be able to load windows without having the registry totally corrupted (if this happens and if you are unlucky, safe mode wont work anymore--and you will have to use the boot CD, recovery console, and use some good old DOS commands to manually copy the initial registry (the one when you first installed windows is saved someplace), over the trashed registry files (there are either 5 or 6), after first deleting the trash files, then booting from this rescue registry, giving yourself access permissions for the hidden folder "System volume information", and searching for the most recent "system restore" registry backup you can find, and then manually copying the files to a temp folder, and going BACK to recovery console and doing another rename and copy -.- (if you want more information, go here : http://www.digitalwebcast.com/articl...le.jsp?id=8658 ) Anyway, back on topic: your goal is to be able to boot windows without worrying about trashed data, then test from windows with 16M superPi, or Prime95 torture tests. (There is also a windows memtest). BTW, many RAM these days need 2.8v for stability @ stock, depending on your motherboard. Some mobos will do just fine at 2.6v (2.5v is just too low), others will want 2.8v--and their 2.8v is often "other" manufacturer's 2.7v.