Your thoughts on a new mouse

noland1985 · Mar 28, 2005, 08:53 PM

i have found online (via slickdeals.net...a great site) a logitech mx510 mouse for only $30 (US). usually these mice are upwards of $50. on the same site there is a logitech mx1000 (laser sensor) for only $55, when its usually $80+. i currently use a plain compaq optical mouse which is OK in my opinion, but not necessarily great. i was wondering if any of you use either of these mice, and what kind of performance/benefit increase i would recieve from either the 510 or 1000. btw i don't know the dpi or anything for my current mouse.

ps.
also, what sort of mouse pad do most of you reccomend. mine is a piece of paper taped to my desk

- looking to upgrade.

Logla · Mar 28, 2005, 09:26 PM

I use an mx1000 laser with an icemat and the difference it makes is unreal. very, very precise and really a joy to use.

I've been using optical mice since MS introduced the first one a few years ago and the laser with the icemat is like a leap to another level. They are that good. You first notice that the cursor moves around the screen quicker and in only takes a few hours to get used to. After that, you notice that you seem to have much more control.

If you can afford to get the mx1000 with a mat like the icemat, then go for it - you wont regret it.

pr0digal jenius · Mar 28, 2005, 11:30 PM

i too have the mx1000/Icemat II black edition combo goin on and love it

No_Style · Mar 28, 2005, 11:31 PM

Is hardcore gaming in the equation? If so, get the MX510 (or better yet the MX518) over the MX1000. Reports of "pick up" lag deter me from recommending the MX1000. If this mouse isn't for hardcore gaming, then by all means get the MX1000.

As for mouse pads, I don't use one.

riles9262 · Mar 29, 2005, 02:09 AM

Those icemats look pretty sweet, but they are damn expensive. I'm looking for a new mousepad...is there anything similar for less money?

pr0digal jenius · Mar 29, 2005, 02:49 AM

ratpadz are pretty nice (PoopyTheJ has one)...theya re about $15

and mx1000s don't lag anymore..that was a single revision bug

The_Neon_Cowboy · Mar 29, 2005, 03:11 AM

Microsoft Intellimouse Optical 5 buttion
http://www.bestbyteinc.com/prodinfo....ber=MOU-MS-O5B
this is whats kick arse for gameing. NOTHING IS BETTER for gameing ... massive advantage

spend the extra cash you save on something like this:
Thermaltake A2256 Gamma Pad Pro Gaming Mousing Surface
http://www.bestbyteinc.com/prodinfo....r=MOU-TTA-2256

Sargentwhitey · Mar 29, 2005, 03:33 AM

I've also got an MX1000/IceMatII and it's smooth as butter

Perfect for gaming.

noland1985 · Mar 29, 2005, 04:01 AM

well, i just ordered the 510. the paint job plus all of the reported problems with the lag from other forums sold me. also it was only $30 shipped, versus $60. still looking for a pad though...

Logla · Mar 29, 2005, 08:56 AM

saying as you have saved the money on the 510 then I would definatley go for an icemat or icemat 2.

MitchRapp · Mar 30, 2005, 04:16 PM

if you had bought the MX-1000.... you could have played games with the mouse on your knees, on a book, on the floor... whatever ....

noland1985 · Mar 31, 2005, 03:13 AM

but why would i want to do that? lol

Lchevy79 · Mar 31, 2005, 07:15 AM

im running an mx500 on a ratpadz it works well

Shaga · Mar 31, 2005, 08:01 AM

I have mx1000, but like to have mx518 because it's wired and a little more precise because of no latency on wire(when on resolution 192x1440) and good optical sensor. I don't like the buttons of this mx1000, too noisy, and I always forgot to load it, battery keeps it up for 2 weeks.

Good mouse otherwise, I had mx500 before this.

As a mousepad, I had everglide but I love fabric mats more as they give smooth/precise touch and doesn't hurt your arm that much

My next mouse will be mx518.

ps. don't ever touch on microsoft mouse, you get better accuracy/precise movement with logitech and mx1000 has 10 buttos if that's what you want

Lowfat · Mar 31, 2005, 08:03 AM

$30US for a mx510

they were selling them @ staples here last week for $18CAD which is like $15 US.

mike2h · Mar 31, 2005, 08:07 AM

to late, but what pj said is true there is no lag with my mx 1000.
as far as gaming surface i use 'eels' on the mouse feet & an xtrac zoom. wonderful combination. & comparitevly cheap.

noland1985 · Mar 31, 2005, 08:14 AM

eels? um...en englais?

Shaga · Mar 31, 2005, 08:21 AM

"Any of various long, snakelike, scaleless marine or freshwater fishes of the order Anguilliformes or Apodes that lack pelvic fins and characteristically migrate from fresh water to salt water to spawn." or

" Any of several similar fishes, such as the lamprey and electric eel."

mike2h · Mar 31, 2005, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaga

"Any of various long, snakelike, scaleless marine or freshwater fishes of the order Anguilliformes or Apodes that lack pelvic fins and characteristically migrate from fresh water to salt water to spawn." or " Any of several similar fishes, such as the lamprey and electric eel."

good one shaga!

in this case they are very thin teflon pads you apply to the 'feet' on your mouse. work ok to great depending on the mouse surface you use.
a lot of the companies manfacturing pads have various vers of these also. if you buy a gaming pad & the manafacturer makes these i highly rec buying them.

Shaga · Mar 31, 2005, 08:49 AM

Some pads are made of glass and eats default "eels" very fast and you should have replacements nearby

Judas · Mar 31, 2005, 08:55 AM

i hate small mice..... like the big ones... that are nice .... and smooth.. and feel great... (cradles my IntelIExplorer 4.0 by MS)

Lowfat · Mar 31, 2005, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

i hate small mice..... like the big ones... that are nice .... and smooth.. and feel great... (cradles my IntelIExplorer 4.0 by MS)

(compares my MS InteliExplorer Wireless, MX700 (exact same as MX500 but wireless), and MX310)

The explorer and the MX700 are almost the exact same size. The 310 is a tad smaller though. The explorer is by far the most comfortable though.

HawgsHead · Apr 4, 2005, 04:40 PM

Logitech MX 1000..The worlds 1st laser mouse.

Callandor · Apr 4, 2005, 05:18 PM

Well, I'm sorry I'm too late, but I'd have gone for the latest offering from Razor...I tend to like lighter and more sensitive mice, and can't tolerate so many little buttons all over the place...I like to keep it simple. But good buy you got there, apart from the fact that it's a little heavy and big (which could be an advantage to it for some people, and no I don't have tiny hands), it's a good buy indeed.

Zardon · Apr 4, 2005, 06:27 PM

Mx1000.

Zelig · Apr 4, 2005, 08:04 PM

MX1000 is top if you want something wireless, I prefer wired mice though, simply because of the lesser weight and greater simplicity.

Razer Diamondback and MX518 are equal in that respect, virtually the same sensor, just go for whatever fits your hand better.

Vikingod · Apr 4, 2005, 08:29 PM

Best mouse I ever bought... MS Intellimouse Explorer, first gen. I still use the thing primarily. Everyday for what 7-8 years now. The thing travels with me and get beat to hell. I have yet to have one problem with it, other than all the paint is gone and it looks ratty, it still works better than anything I ever bought. It should, I payed like $90 for it back then, but it was worth it.

Callandor · Apr 4, 2005, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zelig

MX1000 is top if you want something wireless, I prefer wired mice though, simply because of the lesser weight and greater simplicity.

Razer Diamondback and MX518 are equal in that respect, virtually the same sensor, just go for whatever fits your hand better.

Yea, I agree with you till the part where you say the Diamondback and 518 are equals, in my mind, the Diamondback is the best of the batch. But as you can clearly see from Viking's post above, preference for a mouse is more a personal thing than anything else, it's not about fetures or anything like that, it's more about how it fits you.

I mean, it's like underwear, everyone has their own type of favourite underwear!

Zelig · Apr 4, 2005, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sun_walka

Yea, I agree with you till the part where you say the Diamondback and 518 are equals, in my mind, the Diamondback is the best of the batch. But as you can clearly see from Viking's post above, preference for a mouse is more a personal thing than anything else, it's not about fetures or anything like that, it's more about how it fits you.

I mean, it's like underwear, everyone has their own type of favourite underwear!

Well, I also prefer the Diamondback, but that's just personal taste, like you say. The mx518 actually has a slightly newer sensor by Agilent, but I'll be darned if I can find any difference between them in either the specs released or in actual performance.

Mar 28, 2005, 08:53 PM	#1
noland1985 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 78 Rep Power: 0	Your thoughts on a new mouse i have found online (via slickdeals.net...a great site) a logitech mx510 mouse for only $30 (US). usually these mice are upwards of $50. on the same site there is a logitech mx1000 (laser sensor) for only $55, when its usually $80+. i currently use a plain compaq optical mouse which is OK in my opinion, but not necessarily great. i was wondering if any of you use either of these mice, and what kind of performance/benefit increase i would recieve from either the 510 or 1000. btw i don't know the dpi or anything for my current mouse. ps. also, what sort of mouse pad do most of you reccomend. mine is a piece of paper taped to my desk - looking to upgrade. __________________ My Specs:

Mar 28, 2005, 11:31 PM	#4
No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,034 Rep Power: 0	Is hardcore gaming in the equation? If so, get the MX510 (or better yet the MX518) over the MX1000. Reports of "pick up" lag deter me from recommending the MX1000. If this mouse isn't for hardcore gaming, then by all means get the MX1000. As for mouse pads, I don't use one. __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here

Mar 29, 2005, 02:09 AM	#5
riles9262 Driverheaven brewmaster Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,842 Rep Power: 72 System Specs	Those icemats look pretty sweet, but they are damn expensive. I'm looking for a new mousepad...is there anything similar for less money? __________________ A beer a day keeps the doctor away.

Mar 29, 2005, 03:11 AM	#7
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	Microsoft Intellimouse Optical 5 buttion http://www.bestbyteinc.com/prodinfo....ber=MOU-MS-O5B this is whats kick arse for gameing. NOTHING IS BETTER for gameing ... massive advantage spend the extra cash you save on something like this: Thermaltake A2256 Gamma Pad Pro Gaming Mousing Surface http://www.bestbyteinc.com/prodinfo....r=MOU-TTA-2256 __________________ Last edited by The_Neon_Cowboy; Mar 29, 2005 at 04:07 AM.

Mar 29, 2005, 03:33 AM	#8
Sargentwhitey Has a JOB.. Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 1,473 Rep Power: 0	I've also got an MX1000/IceMatII and it's smooth as butter Perfect for gaming. __________________ Mobile:Intel Celeron M 1.5GHz, 40GB WD, 1GB PC24000, Intel Mediocre Graphics 2, SB Audigy 2 Notebook

Mar 28, 2005, 09:26 PM	#2
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 0	I use an mx1000 laser with an icemat and the difference it makes is unreal. very, very precise and really a joy to use. I've been using optical mice since MS introduced the first one a few years ago and the laser with the icemat is like a leap to another level. They are that good. You first notice that the cursor moves around the screen quicker and in only takes a few hours to get used to. After that, you notice that you seem to have much more control. If you can afford to get the mx1000 with a mat like the icemat, then go for it - you wont regret it.

Mar 28, 2005, 11:30 PM	#3
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	i too have the mx1000/Icemat II black edition combo goin on and love it

Mar 29, 2005, 02:49 AM	#6
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	ratpadz are pretty nice (PoopyTheJ has one)...theya re about $15 and mx1000s don't lag anymore..that was a single revision bug

Mar 29, 2005, 04:01 AM	Thread Starter #9
noland1985 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 78 Rep Power: 0	well, i just ordered the 510. the paint job plus all of the reported problems with the lag from other forums sold me. also it was only $30 shipped, versus $60. still looking for a pad though... __________________ My Specs:

Mar 29, 2005, 08:56 AM	#10
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 0	saying as you have saved the money on the 510 then I would definatley go for an icemat or icemat 2.

Mar 30, 2005, 04:16 PM	#11
MitchRapp a.k.a. pepiman Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 998 Rep Power: 51 System Specs	if you had bought the MX-1000.... you could have played games with the mouse on your knees, on a book, on the floor... whatever ....

Mar 31, 2005, 03:13 AM	Thread Starter #12
noland1985 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 78 Rep Power: 0	but why would i want to do that? lol __________________ My Specs:

Mar 31, 2005, 07:15 AM	#13
Lchevy79 -=[DHzer0point Team]=- Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 725 Rep Power: 0	im running an mx500 on a ratpadz it works well __________________ msi K7N2 delta2-AMD 2800xp@2083-1gig of pc2700ram -ati x850xt 256mb -Audigy mp3+ - 1 80gig maxtor 8mb and 1 250gig 16mb maxtor -48x24x48 buslink burner-and a lite on 4x +/- dvd burner xp home samsung lcd (19") 930b monitor

Mar 31, 2005, 08:01 AM	#14
Shaga Intelligent Life Form Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Nordic Region Posts: 383 Rep Power: 48 System Specs	I have mx1000, but like to have mx518 because it's wired and a little more precise because of no latency on wire(when on resolution 192x1440) and good optical sensor. I don't like the buttons of this mx1000, too noisy, and I always forgot to load it, battery keeps it up for 2 weeks. Good mouse otherwise, I had mx500 before this. As a mousepad, I had everglide but I love fabric mats more as they give smooth/precise touch and doesn't hurt your arm that much My next mouse will be mx518. ps. don't ever touch on microsoft mouse, you get better accuracy/precise movement with logitech and mx1000 has 10 buttos if that's what you want __________________ Server: Currently Offline

Mar 31, 2005, 08:03 AM	#15
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,254 Rep Power: 101	$30US for a mx510 they were selling them @ staples here last week for $18CAD which is like $15 US. __________________

Apr 4, 2005, 04:40 PM	#23
HawgsHead Rest In Peace Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Danville Virginia.The United States of America"In the God of Abraham,Isaac and Jacob We Trust" Posts: 2,012 Rep Power: 0	Logitech MX 1000..The worlds 1st laser mouse. __________________ Rig specs to the left in the boxes....X-Box 360 w/Hitachi 42" HDTV....If Darwins theory of evolution is true then why are monkeys still monkeys?It takes much more faith to believe in Darwin's theory over the Genesis account of creation.

Mar 31, 2005, 08:07 AM	#16
mike2h DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: norcal Posts: 6,483 Rep Power: 91 System Specs	to late, but what pj said is true there is no lag with my mx 1000. as far as gaming surface i use 'eels' on the mouse feet & an xtrac zoom. wonderful combination. & comparitevly cheap. __________________

Mar 31, 2005, 08:14 AM	Thread Starter #17
noland1985 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 78 Rep Power: 0	eels? um...en englais? __________________ My Specs:

Mar 31, 2005, 08:21 AM	#18
Shaga Intelligent Life Form Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Nordic Region Posts: 383 Rep Power: 48 System Specs	"Any of various long, snakelike, scaleless marine or freshwater fishes of the order Anguilliformes or Apodes that lack pelvic fins and characteristically migrate from fresh water to salt water to spawn." or " Any of several similar fishes, such as the lamprey and electric eel." __________________ Server: Currently Offline

Mar 31, 2005, 08:49 AM	#20
Shaga Intelligent Life Form Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Nordic Region Posts: 383 Rep Power: 48 System Specs	Some pads are made of glass and eats default "eels" very fast and you should have replacements nearby __________________ Server: Currently Offline

Apr 4, 2005, 05:18 PM	#24
Callandor Forged on Dragonmount Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 7,237 Rep Power: 304 System Specs	Well, I'm sorry I'm too late, but I'd have gone for the latest offering from Razor...I tend to like lighter and more sensitive mice, and can't tolerate so many little buttons all over the place...I like to keep it simple. But good buy you got there, apart from the fact that it's a little heavy and big (which could be an advantage to it for some people, and no I don't have tiny hands), it's a good buy indeed. __________________

Apr 4, 2005, 06:27 PM	#25
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Mx1000.

Apr 4, 2005, 08:04 PM	#26
Zelig HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,187 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	MX1000 is top if you want something wireless, I prefer wired mice though, simply because of the lesser weight and greater simplicity. Razer Diamondback and MX518 are equal in that respect, virtually the same sensor, just go for whatever fits your hand better. __________________ --

Apr 4, 2005, 08:29 PM	#27
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,197 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	Best mouse I ever bought... MS Intellimouse Explorer, first gen. I still use the thing primarily. Everyday for what 7-8 years now. The thing travels with me and get beat to hell. I have yet to have one problem with it, other than all the paint is gone and it looks ratty, it still works better than anything I ever bought. It should, I payed like $90 for it back then, but it was worth it.